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MJ: What a POS. He has been an exceedingly bad loser

LeeTJ

Diamond Member
Story in ESPN.

Comon MJ, you should never have unretired. it was a bad publicity stunt. you didn't have it in you to take the wizards to the next level. quit complaining about other players. it was your failure.

I posted a thread a couple months ago, asking who everyone thought would be the better team next seasons, the wizards or the bulls.

i still maintain that MJ hurt the wizards with this "Comeback" and that next season the bulls will be not only better than the wizards but will be a playoff team.

 
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Story in ESPN.

Comon MJ, you should never have unretired. it was a bad publicity stunt. you didn't have it in you to take the wizards to the next level. quit complaining about other players. it was your failure.

I posted a thread a couple months ago, asking who everyone thought would be the better team next seasons, the wizards or the bulls.

i still maintain that MJ hurt the wizards with this "Comeback" and that next season the bulls will be not only better than the wizards but will be a playoff team.

I think the wizards will be better, but not b/c MJ is leaving but b/c those players dont' know how to play with a superstar. I thought they would be this year....but Stack was not the man I thought he would be.

But, hey, I don't think MJ is a bad loser, I think he's the ultimate competitor, and one reason why he was a great ballplayer, but that doesn't make him a great gm. He wants to win 100% of the time, and he wants to win with every bone in his body. Obviously his team didnt' follow him there....and they were just too young to have the expectations put on them that were. I think that's his failing. As far as someone saying it was publiciity....I don't think it was. I Think it was largely influenced by how Lemeiux recharged his franchise, and how well Mario did that got MJ into the thought of doing it. As far as the article goes....I think it's undersandtable for him to be irritated. You can't say that the players gave 100% all season.......but you can say MJ did.

Regardless. His legend isn't tarnished in my book. Sure his last shot wont' be so pretty....and he missed a 2nd gamewinner last night. But who cares. Tehy're never be another 40yr old that can hang with the youngsters like MJ. And I don't think he's a POS for that article above...I think he's a POS for running around on his wife.
 
oh btw

MJ missed a game winning shot in the last 2 games. Let's see, how many NBA games come down to the last shot?? oh ya, about 60% (figure pulled out of my @ss). so his team got him the opportunity to hit the game winning shots twice in the last 2 games, he misses BOTH of them and it's because THEY aren't trying hard enough??


Enough with the copouts MJ. Your just a POS.
 
so his team got him the opportunity to hit the game winning shots twice in the last 2 games, he misses BOTH of them and it's because THEY aren't trying hard enough??
With a good team, the game shouldn't come down to the results of *one* player's actions. Missing a game winning shot doesn't occur because you aren't "trying".
 
Originally posted by: geno
so his team got him the opportunity to hit the game winning shots twice in the last 2 games, he misses BOTH of them and it's because THEY aren't trying hard enough??
With a good team, the game shouldn't come down to the results of *one* player's actions. Missing a game winning shot doesn't occur because you aren't "trying".

which game are you watching?? it obviously isn't he NBA. NBA games are more dependent upon the actions of these KEY individuals than any other team sport.
 
Originally posted by: ndee
guys, you know why he returned? ONLY cuz he loves that game so much, and that's the only reason.

WRONG

if it was ONLY cause he loves the game soo much, he wouldn't be trying to lay the blame on everyone else for losing.
 
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: ndee
guys, you know why he returned? ONLY cuz he loves that game so much, and that's the only reason.

WRONG

if it was ONLY cause he loves the game soo much, he wouldn't be trying to lay the blame on everyone else for losing.

so why do you think did he return?
 
I am happy to see we have LeeTJ that knows everything about someone's motives. He is such an asset to the forums. MJ did what he though would help the team. MJ HATES losing. He hates seeing HIS TEAM LOSE. He thought he could make a difference. He couldn't. Get over it.
 

Dood, you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about. You are calling MJ a POS when you should be calling his teammates POS. If they elevated their level to half of what Michael was giving at 40 years old, they would have made the playoffs. The young players continually made bad mistakes. Did you even watch a Wizards game this year? It wasn't Michael making the bad decisions on screen switches, turnovers, and defensive let downs. It was the supporting cast. Michael (as all great players) have depended on a supporting cast to elevate the team to the next level. Most of the guys on this year's team just weren't good enough to get it done. Call him a bad owner for picking most of those guys. Michael should be pissed that he didn't make the playoffs. He has high expectations, and others didn't meet those expectations....MJ is the best NBA player ever, you don't think he can be an asset to the team even at 40? You are laughable....

and.....

The Bulls will NOT be a playoff team next year. heh. What a joke.
 
I personally don't care for MJ nor do I care for the NBA in general. I would much rather watch college basketball. NBA basketball has changed and I just don't like it. That doesn't mean it is a bad game, it just means I don't like how the game is played anymore.

Of course no matter what happened, you can't take away that MJ is the best player to have ever stepped on the court.
 
Originally posted by: Codewiz
I am happy to see we have LeeTJ that knows everything about someone's motives. He is such an asset to the forums. MJ did what he though would help the team. MJ HATES losing. He hates seeing HIS TEAM LOSE. He thought he could make a difference. He couldn't. Get over it.

hehehe

apparently you read too much into what others post.

i never said i know EVERYthing about others motives. i merely pointed out that it is wrong to say MJ returned SOLELY for the love of the game. Ndee posted
ONLY cuz he loves that game so much, and that's the only reason.
and I said that was WRONG.

now, where exactly can you prove to me that MJ returned ONLY cuz he loves the game?? just on logic alone i can show that this is an absolute falsehood. People are VERY complex and i know of NO one who has ever done anything SOLELY for one thing and one thing only.

MJ like everyone else has multiple motives and reasons, i'm not privy to ANY of them, but i can conclusively say that he didn't do it SOLELY for the love of the game.
 
Originally posted by: ndee
LeeTJ: I can, I read his book. Money? Money doesn't matter to MJ anymore. Fame? What else?

nostalgia, pride, love, hate, power, fear of failure, fear of success, he got tired of hearing kobe called the next MJ, Stern asked him to because the NBA needed him.

mostly pride, he wanted to add to his legacy, to be able to bring the wizards back and mb even win a championship with them would have been an incredible achievement.

i think his inability to do so has forced him to start blaming others. :shrug;

 
Well you are CALLING a person a POS when you have NO idea what his motives are. If you were able to make somewhat rational suggestions about his motives then my point would be moot. You just call him a POS when the man did what he thought would be best for the team. His team was not able to perform up to his level.

I definately wouldn't say he did it for the love of the game. He did it because he wanted to win. He has ALWAYS done whatever it takes to win. He wasn't able to but that does not make him a POS.

I guess you blame Iverson when the 76ers lose. Yeah sometimes it is Iverson's fault but most of the time it is because his team doesn't know how to play their role in the game. Tryingt o deny that Iverson is your go to guy is what hurts the 76ers. Just like the Wizards, they didn't know how to raise their level of the game. They did not play like a team that wanted to make the playoffs. The 40 year old man was busting his ass every game.
 
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Well you are CALLING a person a POS when you have NO idea what his motives are. If you were able to make somewhat rational suggestions about his motives then my point would be moot. You just call him a POS when the man did what he thought would be best for the team. His team was not able to perform up to his level.

I definately wouldn't say he did it for the love of the game. He did it because he wanted to win. He has ALWAYS done whatever it takes to win. He wasn't able to but that does not make him a POS.

I guess you blame Iverson when the 76ers lose. Yeah sometimes it is Iverson's fault but most of the time it is because his team doesn't know how to play their role in the game. Tryingt o deny that Iverson is your go to guy is what hurts the 76ers. Just like the Wizards, they didn't know how to raise their level of the game. They did not play like a team that wanted to make the playoffs. The 40 year old man was busting his ass every game.


ironic that this all comes after 2 consecutive games where MJ missed game winning shots.

wins in both games would have kept them in the running. and his team DID put him in a position to win those games, he just came up short. why didn't he just say that instead of all this fingerpointing?
 
Remind me again, how many games are in a season? So it is MJ's fault that the rest of the team has played poorly all season??
 
yeah, MJ wanted to win a championship again with the Wizards
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you really think he's that stupid?
 
MJ is one of the most competitive people to ever play the game. As all great players do, he can't stand losing. As the greatest NBA player to ever live, I think he's earned the right to criticize players who are not giving it their all, who are satisfied with putting in a minimal amount of effort and taking whatever result they get.
 
Originally posted by: her209
There's much better players now in the NBA than MJ.

Who said there wasn't???? However there aren't any players yet that are better than MJ in MJ's prime.

MJ is 40 years old so there are bound to be better players but he is still one of the best players in the game today.
 
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