Mixing bleach and ammonia

crab

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Can anybody explain to me what this creates? What it does to you? Do victims of inhalation suffer?

I'm asking because my aunt did just that today, and the fumes killed her.

Thanks
 

TonyG

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Yes, the resulting gas is very poisonous. I have heard of cases where a janitor in a store would mix the two together, and everyone had to be evactuated from the store. One guy I know says it creates a form of mustard gas, which I doubt is true, but this stuff is very dangerous.

As for what it creates and does, I really don't have know any details, but after only a couple of seconds of being exposed to a weak solution of this stuff, I came out of the room coughing and my eyes watering like crazy. I had my experience when someone had poured bleach in the toilet and did not flush it, and the main thing I had to drink the last couple of days before hand was Coke. Lets just say it was not a pleasant experience.
 

Yo Ma Ma

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That's horrible, sorry to hear about your aunt! I think the combination releases toxic gases (i.e. chlorine gas), and it probably isn't a great way to go.
 

ThisIsMatt

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You serious? What was she trying to do?

Yes, it creates a highly poisonous gas, which as TonyG mentioned, I've heard called "mustard gas" (most likely not the same, but similar).
 

Eli

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Damn, that's aweful. I believe it's Chlorine gas..
 

Kadarin

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Did a search on Google on this, and learned that the gas produced is called "chloramine" and is quite toxic. Bad idea...
 
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Bleach is produced by combining chlorine and sodium hydroxide, also known as caustic soda. This combination forms sodium hypochlorite, the active ingredient in bleach. Household bleach is a 5.25% solution of sodium hypochlorite and 94.75% water. Bleach kills bacteria through an oxidizing process, which is also why it whitens. This disinfecting action kills flu and common cold germs, strep and staf infections, and Salmonella, and E Coli. On its own, bleach releases chlorine gas into the air, which destroys oxygen, making it necessary to avoid its fumes.

Ammonia is a compound of nitrogen and hydrogen gas, and when mixed with water to make a cleaning solution it is properly called ammonium hydroxide. Ammonia is poisonous if swallowed.

When bleach is mixed with ammonia-containing compounds, monochloramine (NH2Cl) and dichloramine (NHCl2) are formed, which may produce tearing, respiratory tract irritation, and nausea. These compounds decompose in water to hypochlorous acid and free ammonia gas; the former combines with moisture forming hydrochloric acid and toxic nascent oxygen; the latter is a respiratory and mucous membrane irritant and can cause pulmonary edema and pneumonia.

The good thing is that it's seldom fatal (14 cases average per year). However, the pulmonary edema is not pleasant I regret and can be fatal; especially if the victim has any form of lung damage or weakness.

I hope that she did not notice how bad the smell was, became dizzy and nauseus and decided to lie down to rest till it passed. She then might have passed out from the concentration of the gas in her lungs and not felt anything. The alternative isn't pleasant at all, so I won't go into it.

I'm very sorry.
 

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<< Can anybody explain to me what this creates? What it does to you? Do victims of inhalation suffer?

I'm asking because my aunt did just that today, and the fumes killed her.

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Mixing the two together creates a form of chlorine gas, very bad to inhale if you're around it.

I'm very sorry about your aunt :(
 

Linux23

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<< Can anybody explain to me what this creates? What it does to you? Do victims of inhalation suffer?

I'm asking because my aunt did just that today, and the fumes killed her.

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are you serious? wow, i had no idea that stuff can kill you. if that's the case, sorry! :(
 

Cyco

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Sorry to hear about your aunt...hope you and your family stay strong.
-Cyco-
 

Jerboy

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Sorry about your aunt.

Why did she do it? Isn't it very well known fact you shouldn't mix bleach and ammonia ? :Q
 
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She may not have known about the mix ( most people I've met have no idea ) or it could have been unknown ingredients (Windex, for instance, has a very weak derivative of ammonia in it), or it could have been a time lapse thing (uses bleach, then a while later uses ammonia).
 

Thegonagle

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Woah, woah, woah!

She died?

Yikes!

I'm so sorry to hear that.

A small coincidence is that my own aunt is the person who first told me never to do that, because it makes a toxic gas. I never really pushed the issue for some reason, and I?m naturally a person who pushes a lot of things right to the limit.
 

Mookow

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I'm pretty sure it creates clorine gas, which was the most deadly chemical agent deployed in WWI, in terms of casualties.
 

Jerboy

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Chlorine smells EXTREMELY pungent. When I mixed Coca-Cola with sodium hypochlorite in an attempt to make a clear Cola, it emitted chlorine gas. Coke was acidic enough to decompose sodium hypochlorite. Strong smell is good, because it gives a warning. Chloramine doesn't smell much as I have just tested it. Mixed a few drops of bleach and ammonia in a small glass tube. I saw the reaction, but I can hardly smell it.
 

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<< Chlorine smells EXTREMELY pungent. When I mixed Coca-Cola with sodium hypochlorite in an attempt to make a clear Cola, >>



Uhh.. Would you have drank it if it made the coke clear? lol...

Somehow, I don't think that's how they made Crystal Pepsi.. :Q ;)
 

XMan

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Very sorry to hear about your aunt. :(

I remember reading that a mafia guy was assassinated in this manner by a rival. They filled his toilet tank with ammonia and the bowl with bleach. I guess he had a cold, so he couldn't smell it, and the next time he flushed the toilet, bam.
 

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first found out in school reading those mischief making guides full of stuff that the author takes no responsibility for..

and yes its called mustard gas. used on troops in the world wars of course. from what i remember reading about it, your lungs just fill with fluid and you eventually die.
 

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<< Chlorine smells EXTREMELY pungent. When I mixed Coca-Cola with sodium hypochlorite in an attempt to make a clear Cola, it emitted chlorine gas. Coke was acidic enough to decompose sodium hypochlorite. Strong smell is good, because it gives a warning. Chloramine doesn't smell much as I have just tested it. Mixed a few drops of bleach and ammonia in a small glass tube. I saw the reaction, but I can hardly smell it. >>

2002 Darwin Awards

A person most well known on an internet chat community by the name Jerboy died yesterday after attempting to test carbon monoxide for any pugnent odor. Among other things found in this strang boy's room were cans of what appear to be bleached coca-cola (yes, that's right, the soda). His parents declined comment except to say that maybe they should have gotten the new car he had wanted, at least then maybe he could have gotten some fresh air.
 
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Not that I think this is the place for a chemical weapons class, but:

Mustard gas IS NOT Chlorine/Chloramine gas. Chlorine and ammonia make chloramine gas, governments made mustard gas as a chemical weapon (as well as chlorine gas weapons...NOT chloramine gas).


Mustard "gas",C4H8Cl2S is irritating and deadly chemical weapon developed at the begining of the century and first used in 1917. This sticky, amber-black substanct is soluable in some environments but is only slightly soluable in water making it hard to wash off. Its odor has been described as freshly cut hay, horseradish, or garlic, hence, "mustard gas".

When an individual comes in contact with mustard gas, the skin may blister and reddin; become sore, especially in areas with a lot of sweat glands are located. The eyes will burn and could be damaged if exposed for too long. If a person inhales this chemical as a mist, the blisters will form in the lungs, causing a number long and short term symptoms. In cases of extreem exposure, mustard gas is fatal. It has now been classified as a carcinogen Symptoms usually begin to take effect 4-24 hours after initial contact. The long term effects on a individual may include sensitization, cronic lung impairment, cough shortness of breath, chest pain, cancer of the mouth, throat, respitory tract, and skin. It has been linked to causing Leukemia and Birth defects.

" The skin of victims of mustard gas blistered, the eyes became very sore and they began to vomit. Mustard gas caused internal and external bleeding and attacked the bronchial tubes, stripping off the mucous membrane. This was extremely painful and most soldiers had to be strapped to their beds. It usually took a person four or five weeks to die of mustard gas poisoning. One nurse, Vera Brittain, wrote: "I wish those people who talk about going on with this war whatever it costs could see the soldiers suffering from mustard gas poisoning. Great mustard-coloured blisters, blind eyes, all sticky and stuck together, always fighting for breath, with voices a mere whisper, saying that their throats are closing and they know they will choke."



Germany first used chlorine gas cylinders in April 1915 against the French Army at Ypres. French soldiers reported seeing yellow-green clouds drifting slowly towards the Allied trenches. They also noticed its distinctive smell which was like a mixture of pineapple and pepper.

Chlorine gas destroyed the respiratory organs of its victims and this led to a slow death by asphyxiation. (Specifically pulmonary edema (drowning in your own fluids))


British Gas Casualties: 1914-18 / Deaths / Non-Fatal
Chlorine / 1,976 / 164,457
Mustard Gas / 4,086 / 16,526