Mitt Romney - One Of Only A Few Honorable Republicans

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Meh right would have defunding the police and removing all the ridiculous protections they have to go murder black people. Not a pointless gesture like walking next to some black people for the photo op.
Ok so doing nothing would have been better. Got it.
 

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Romney has lots of policy views that I oppose but he is a decent and honorable person - one of the few that was willing to do what's right and vote to convict Trump.

I hope his book calls out by name the people who secretly feel the same way he does but are too craven.
 
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Mitt only looks a little bit "good" due to what came after him. Same for dead John McCain, who only stood against the crazy on the crap GOP health "plan" when he knew he was dying and didn't need their votes to be re-elected.

I couldn't vote against Mitt fast enough when he ran against Obama, so me saying he's miles better than wannabe fascists like Desantis and Trump is saying something.
 

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By honorable you mean a complete fucking scumbag who happens to be better than the average Republican.
 
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Moderate and reasonable republicans in congress were driven to complete extinction by around 2010. Basically none left that are fiscally conservative or socially moderate, much less both (yes, once upon a time there used to be pro-women's rights and pro-minority rights republicans!)

I agree with the title that Mitt was one of the last honorable republicans left in congress ~ most of the rest have already sold and double-mortgaged their souls, and can't be trusted to keep their word for longer than a single breath between sentences. And they certainly don't care one whit about ever helping or, heaven forbid, actually serving their country.
 

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Nope - I mean honorable. Doesn't mean he doesn't have shitty beliefs about plenty of things but he was willing to put his country before his party when the chips were down and I respect that.
If he was willing to put country before party he would have left the party a long time ago.
 
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Here’s a good summary of Mitt regarding legislation he can be counted on to find a deal or middle ground. He will keep his end of the deal as in you vote for X cut and I will vote for Y increase. Even if your vote is first he will keep his end of the deal. Overwhelming amount of our current Republicans cannot be trusted unless they vote first and even then they’ll back out or sabotage the deal at the first sign of resistance.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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Romney has lots of policy views that I oppose but he is a decent and honorable person - one of the few that was willing to do what's right and vote to convict Trump.

I hope his book calls out by name the people who secretly feel the same way he does but are too craven.
He's a Wall Street shitbag who looted companies for his own wealth. Not a thing decent or honorable about him.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Okay so to obtain your blessing a politician needs to do everything you want them to do and any deviation means they’re a shit bag.
Certainly feels that way by your postings.
So he has a nice smile and walked in a march and that makes him decent and erases his career of being a leech who loaded companies full of debt to loot them and leave the workers with fucking nothing. Tell me what was honorable about that shitbag's work at Bain Capital?
 
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So he has a nice smile and walked in a march and that makes him decent and erases his career of being a leech who loaded companies full of debt to loot them and leave the workers with fucking nothing. Tell me what was honorable about that shitbag's work at Bain Capital?
That’s a different chapter and a different topic. This is about his announced Retirement.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Really you don’t know the answer to this?
The motherfucker ran on getting rid of Medicare. Except for boomers because he needed their votes. But everyone else could fuck off and die when they hit 65.

Hearing people talk about the loser who was going to steal Medicare from all of us like he was someone worthy of respect makes me want to puke. Fucking liberals, I can see how Reagan got you guys' votes by flashing a good smile and a nice speech.
 
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fskimospy

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He's a Wall Street shitbag who looted companies for his own wealth. Not a thing decent or honorable about him.
This is an interesting echo of Trump’s argument to Raffensberger. Basically Trump’s argument for doing the wrong thing was that Democrats would give him no credit for doing the right thing, so he might as well do the wrong thing.

That appears to hold up pretty well, actually, haha.
 

SteveGrabowski

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This is an interesting echo of Trump’s argument to Raffensberger. Basically Trump’s argument for doing the wrong thing was that Democrats would give him no credit for doing the right thing, so he might as well do the wrong thing.

That appears to hold up pretty well, actually, haha.
He literally ran on taking our Medicare away, except for from his voting base of course. Seems like you're the one who doesn't want to give him any credit for his policy.
 

fskimospy

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The motherfucker ran on getting rid of Medicare. Except for boomers because he needed their votes. But everyone else could fuck off and die when they hit 65.

Hearing people talk about the loser who was going to steal Medicare from all of us like he was someone worthy of respect makes me want to puke. Fucking liberals, I can see how Reagan got you guys' votes by flashing a good smile and a nice speech.
Did anyone in this conversation vote for Romney? I know I didn’t.

His policies were terrible, which is why I didn’t vote for him. I’m able to discern the difference between bad policies and a dishonorable person though and I haven’t seen anything from Romney in his fairly long political career that indicates he betrayed his oath of office or his position of public trust.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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Did anyone in this conversation vote for Romney? I know I didn’t.

His policies were terrible, which is why I didn’t vote for him. I’m able to discern the difference between bad policies and a dishonorable person though and I haven’t seen anything from Romney in his fairly long political career that indicates he betrayed his oath of office or his position of public trust.
You can't be a good person and try to take the lifeline a lot of seniors depend on to exist away from them. No good person advocates for killing more old people but that's precisely what Romney ran on.
 
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fskimospy

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You can't be a good person and try to take the lifeline a lot of seniors depend on to exist away from them. No good person advocates for killing more old people but that's precisely what Romney ran on.
Well if your idea is that changing Medicare to make it into a private market premium support plan instead of a government run plan makes someone irredeemably evil that’s your business, but I think that idea is insane.

My proposal for a better idea would be to say that Romney’s policy was very bad and people shouldn’t vote for him because of it, but that it is okay to have policy disagreements without someone being irredeemably evil.