Mitt Romney announces he is not running in 2016...

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Vic

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Bad news for the Democrats, the Republicans might run someone who actually has a chance of winning.
 

Vic

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Is Jeb Bush really that strong a conservative? I figured that someone who rules a "battleground" state like Florida is necessarily a centrist.
Under the American system, no one with a non-centrist ideology ever has a chance of becoming President. That's not to say that they don't try though.
 

Vic

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Not getting funded by the Kochs, having people in his party who have sworn to use their power and money to prevent him from getting the nomination. Seems like a fairly easy decision to me.
Mitt's biggest hurdle was that a black woman will be President before a Mormon.
 

Sonikku

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At last we are one step closer to getting a refreshing Bush in office, and one step further away from having to deal with the same old tired dynasty politics the Clintons are known for.
 

werepossum

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Bad news for the Democrats, the Republicans might run someone who actually has a chance of winning.
Never underestimate the Republicans' ability to assemble a circular firing squad. The only real chance they have is when the Dems have been in power long enough for everyone to remember why they hate them. Or is that when the Pubbies have been out of power long enough for everyone to forget why they hate them . . .

Under the American system, no one with a non-centrist ideology ever has a chance of becoming President. That's not to say that they don't try though.
Yep.

Mitt's biggest hurdle was that a black woman will be President before a Mormon.
Hey, three in a row!

Hope it's Condaleeza Rice. Or maybe Angela Bassett. We've never tried rule by hotness - who knows what we might be missing?
 

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It's cause every1 knows, especially the powers that be; that 2016 will be Bush 3.0 v "She We Await". It's gonna be exciting.
 

compuwiz1

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Mitt's biggest hurdle was that a black woman will be President before a Mormon.

Vic, don't ever think for a minute, that this country is not so stupid, as to elect the likes of a Sheila Jackson Lee. ;)

We've been gobsmacked before!
 

sportage

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They are all a bunch of suck-ups.
Romney, for example, believes in strong business and good employees that make a strong business. That's how business men think. So I'd bet he never gave a crap if someone was gay, straight, or whatever as long as they were good citizens and productive workers.
So this playing up to the religions right wing over social issues made Mitt just another suck-up.
We don't need more suck-ups running the country.

And Jeb, isn't he married to an Hispanic? His kids are part Hispanic? Yet Jeb took a hard line against immigration. Oh boy, here we go again. Just another suck-up playing to the hard right wing anti immigration republican base.

And the same can be said for the democratic challengers, or challenger if you will.

Will the real commander and chief please stand up?
ANyone...? ANyone...? ANyone...?

What it is going to boil down to, do we want more US troop involvement in the middle east?
Because, you know Cheney and his thugs are just itching at another chance under still another Bush monarchy.
So that is the question. The bottom line.
More endless US involvement, and more American troops involved in the middle east?
Or not?

Trillions more spent on un-winnable middle east involvement? Or no?
Money raped from our US economy, spent on middle eastern economy? Or no?
More US soldiers killed over there, and that ignored over here? Or no?
Higher taxes for wars over there, and less spent on infrastructure over here? Or no?

Bush/Cheney 2016. Nuff said.
 

rockyct

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One down, two to go.

Jeb Bush,
Hillary Clinton,
just say no.

-John
You're looking at the 2016 general election right there. It's going to get realllll ugly too and America is going to hate it. The media is going to love it though. They have 16 years of politics to drag back up to the surface and analyze. The media wants the Clinton vs. Bush fight they never got.
 

sportage

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OR...

This could just be the republicans falling on their sword.
Mitt realized that he would most likely lose up against Hillary.

I think Hillary suggesting she would wait until this Summer to announce, told Mitt that the Clinton's were gearing up to play smart, much smarter than even Mitt had expected.

And Mitt, being the business man looking at everything from a businessman viewpoint, Mitt realized that Jeb could never win when up against Hillary, either.
So Mitt fell on his sword by quitting and then bad mouthing Jeb, and looking to future elections by suggesting the party give new blood a chance.
Knowing this new blood would also lose up against Hillary, but at least the torch would be passed to a younger republican generation.

Being the business man he is, Mitt figured he could single handed turn the parties page on the past, the Bush's, the McCain's, the Newt's, and set the landscape for new republican blood come future elections.
And even though that new blood would lose to Hillary, at least the torch would have been passed.
Giving someone like a Christie or a Rand Paul, or even a Scott Walker a path to the future.
More so, a Scott Walker.

Hillary is going to win 2016. We know that.
The economy is good, the wars are ending, people are working again, and history would be made.
Never under estimate that making history effect.
The first woman president elected theme will catch on, and who better for that job than Hillary?
Yes, as her campaign gains speed, even republican women will take to Hillary.
Hillary can cross that line.
Exactly as Obama did when republicans took a chance to make history by electing the first black president.
People LOVE making history, and able to say years from then, I WAS THERE.
 
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nageov3t

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Hillary is going to win 2016. We know that.
The economy is good, the wars are ending, people are working again, and history would be made.

couldn't you also have said 90% of that about Al Gore following Clinton in 2000?

I like Hill as much as the next guy, but she's got one major obstacle in her path -- the rarity of the same party controlling the White House for 12+ years... not counting deaths, assassinations, and resignations, it's happened twice in the last hundred years.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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The economy is good, the wars are ending, people are working again, and history would be made.

Well thank RICK PERRY!

But don't worry. Hillary is essentially a Neocon so you don't have to worry about fighting overseas. That's in the bag.
 

Ventanni

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Personally, I think for the 2016 election, we as voters should really do our own investigation as to how the candidates ran their previous office. I mean, how much are we looking into that when we vote, or are we at all?

1. How did Jeb Bush run the governorship of Florida while he was in office? I'm a Floridian, and while I was pretty young while he was in office, the general consensus was that Florida prospered as a whole. He's pretty big on environmental protection, but he has an interesting education track record though.

2. How did Mitt Romney govern the state of Massachusetts? Did it prosper? I know he's not going to run for 2016, but if he was, it's a great question to ask.

If these boys can't run a state properly, who's to say they can run a country?

3. How is Hillary's track record? While she wasn't a governor, she was a Senator and the Secretary of State, which should give us a pretty good indication of how she'll perform as the President of the United States. Her husband, and we all know her marriage is a sham anyways, is considered to be one of the better presidents we've ever had, so he could have some positive influence in the House.

Boys, it's time we start voting based on the "fruit" of their previous administrations.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Her husband

One of the things I didn't like was an unelected co-president in the White House. I don't care if she was the female incarnation of Buddha, no one elected her. Her Senate and Sec.of State position are her only legitimate roles she's had, but that didn't stop her from being an unelected or appointed de facto government leader. Nope, I didn't like that.