Mitt and the Dog

HomerJS

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This is a heartwarming story of Mitt Romney, his lovely family and their trusted family pet Seamus the Irish Setter.

Nah. This is a brief look into the personal life of one Willard Mitt Romney which I think is a window to the real person. We've all seen enough pictures of Mittens. This is an photo of a typical Irish setter. In the interest of full disclosure Seamus was quite a bit larger but I don't have his picture.
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In 1983 a 36 year old Mitt packed up his family and luggage into their station wagon for a 12 hour journey to a family cottage. Mitt placed the family dog in a cage and strapped it to the top of the car and took off on their 12 hour ride. Part way through the ride Seamus developed a case of diarrea and took a shit on the top of the car which ran down the back windshield. Mitt pulled into a gas station, borrowed a hose, sprayed down the car and the dog, put Seamus back on the roof and continued the trip.

This story came to light albeit absent the shitting part in 2007. Chris Wallace of Fox News asked Mitt about this and his defense was...
Seamus actually loved it up there
built a special windshield
He then told Wallace that the dog was in an "air-tight container"
At no time did he say he say "in retrospect it was a bad idea" or "cruel" or "I shouldn't have done it"

Before I state what it says about Mitt, let's look at his defense.

"The air-tight container". Seamus is/was quite a large dog and an air-tight container would have caused him suffocate in a matter of hours. That defense is either a big lie or shows unbelievable cruelty.

"Seamus loved it up there". Don't really know if that is true but we do know at some point he ceased loving it when he went into abdominal distress possibly caused by the anxiety of being strapped to the top of a car going 60mph for up to 12 hours in a hot cage with not a lot of air.

He built a special windshield. Big 'ole thumbs up for Mitt!

Did Mitt have any alternatives? In 1983 Mitt was a VP for Bain. I don't know how well off he was but I guess he could have afforded to rent a large enough vehicle so everyone including Seamus could ride in the car. Most station wagons are equipped with luggage racks so here's an idea, tie the luggage to the roof and let Seamus ride in the car.

I not a smart guy like Mitt. Just some dummy posting on ATP&N like others giving my opinions and observations. Seems to me that kind of detachment and lack of empathy must be some serious character flaw. Even given the chance to correct at best, a mistake Mitt just hosed down the car, Seamus and plopped him right back up on the top of the car and continued his mission.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lanny-davis/-romneys-dog-on-car-roof-_b_1202883.html
 

nageov3t

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is this on the same level as parents letting their kids roll around on the floor without seatbelts while barreling down the highway?

I could picture a windshield build to protect the dog from direct winds (see: motorcycle helmets), and there's really no evidence to suggest that the dog was so scared he shit himself in terror.

my dog takes a shit daily; to the best of my knowledge, he's not living in a constant state of fear.
 

davmat787

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Mitt "Griswold" Romney stars in Family Vacation. I guess this qualifies as a dirt when the target is a Mormon, you just don't have as much to work with. Don't most dogs like to stick their heads out an open car window anyway?
 

UberNeuman

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Mitt "Griswold" Romney stars in Family Vacation. I guess this qualifies as a dirt when the target is a Mormon, you just don't have as much to work with. Don't most dogs like to stick their heads out an open car window anyway?

why would you bring it down to being a "Mormon"? LBJ was attacked for slinging his pup around...
 

Bitek

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Is this for real? Who the f puts a dog on the roof?

A dead grandmother I understand. She would smell pretty bad. The dog only smells bad after shitting himself over the course of 500 miles.
 

davmat787

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why would you bring it down to being a "Mormon"? LBJ was attacked for slinging his pup around...

Did I offend Brother UberNeuman? :p

My comment was back handed actually, just saying that if this is the kind of skeletons Romney has in his closet, that isn't too bad. Contrast this to Newt for example, this wouldn't even fall in his top 100 probably, and I don't intend to minimize what happened, although I understand it will read as such. Animals are transported in the cargo bins on aircraft all the time, right next to corpses in coffins. Go down the highway, and I see horses in trailers. Was the dog ever in danger, or is the issue that it was on the roof in the first place?
 

UberNeuman

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Did I offend Brother UberNeuman? :p

My comment was back handed actually, just saying that if this is the kind of skeletons Romney has in his closet, that isn't too bad. Contrast this to Newt for example, this wouldn't even fall in his top 100 probably, and I don't intend to minimize what happened, although I understand it will read as such. Animals are transported in the cargo bins on aircraft all the time, right next to corpses in coffins. Go down the highway, and I see horses in trailers. Was the dog ever in danger, or is the issue that it was on the roof in the first place?

Well, your reply is twisted in so many ways it should be a pretzel ....

\Brother UberNeuman? kind of like it....
 
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Nebor

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While I've never heard of anyone strapping a dog kennel to a roof, anyone familiar with dogs know how much they love the "wind in their face" sensation of sticking their head out of a car window. I'd have a hard time judging, 20 years after the fact, that this was cruel. Dogs have diarrhea for all kinds of reasons, not just abject terror.
 

monovillage

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why would you bring it down to being a "Mormon"? LBJ was attacked for slinging his pup around...

I remember that, he picked his beagle?/hound? up by the ears, on TV yet. A bunch of whiny animal types got their panties in a bunch. I bet Lady Bird told him it was stupid, most folks didn't give a rats ass.