Mistakes Bernie Sanders Made

[bozack]

you use them in your daily life when you deal with your family, but somehow when you want to apply them to the entire country, they fail.

whut?

 

[DrPizza]

Addressing widespread criminal conspiracy re: classified info is being kookie and slinging mud?

I did not say what you seem to think I said. Prior to Bernie saying he was tired of the "damn emails," he was merely another also-ran. Up until that point, he really didn't have any momentum - he was just the old white-haired guy from the granola state with a bunch of kumbaya ideas. Few were really listening to him. But, when he said that we were all sick of hearing about the damn emails, he was speaking mostly for the Democrats - yes, I know, there's still some froth on the side of your mouth, but it'll be all okay. Just clip your little ruby red shoes together and repeat the magic word - Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi. Bernie may have gained ground with the Republicans by attacking Hilary in that manner, but he didn't have much to gain from Democrats, many of whom were starting to realize that the email thing was probably just another Republican smear campaign.

The moment he spoke those words during the debate (last October, wasn't it?) he instantly turned people's heads and got a ton of attention. He didn't behave like establishment candidates - he wanted to discuss the issues. He immediately gained credibility as being an honest politician. You think he'd have that credibility if he were attacking Hilary over the emails? Over Benghazi? So, a man who would have otherwise been dismissed as some kook who thought he could match up with Hilary, suddenly became a person whom people sick of the bullshit coming out of Washington could turn to.

 

[DigDog]

whut?

do you sell food to your children, at a profit?

 

[cubby1223]

Unless you ever lived in a so called "social democracy", aka. in Europe...and can compare the systems, this INCLUDES your ridiculous election system, you're not qualified to form an opinion

Otherwise you're just spouting an opinion based on something you don't know. Aka..the definition of ignorance.

Do you think your current oligarchy (which is so obvious it borders the ridiculous) is the best you can have? If so, pretty lame.

"Anyone who doesn't agree with me, is ignorant and unqualified to hold opinions."

Par for the course with Bernie Bros. Sounds more like a certain someone just wants to throw a pissy fit after learning his man-love will not become President.

 

[flexy]

"Anyone who doesn't agree with me, is ignorant and unqualified to hold opinions."

Par for the course with Bernie Bros. Sounds more like a certain someone just wants to throw a pissy fit after learning his man-love will not become President.

I am not throwing a pissy fit - but how comes so many have an anti stance against "democratic socialism" when the States NEVER EVER had democratic socialism? What is your benchmark you are comparing to?

Don't tell me "Venezuela" or some other randomly picked banana republic.

As I pointed out, you are about 40+ years *behind* say Western Europe in terms of social equality and social democracy in general, how can you even judge?

You don't know whether, say, "free tuition" (just to pick one thing) that's normal in Western Europe would not a lot more benefit the US compared to the burden of potentially higher taxes. So...how can you judge?

The same with higher min. wages etc.etc.

It's MY PERSONAL opinion that the majority of problems in the US right now have to do with social "injustice" insofar that "wild capitalism" merely benefits a few wealthy at the back of the majority of people. (By the way I do NOT want a "handout society", neither do I want "free stuff". I want equal chances for everyone, and a better social net, simple as that.). And this requires some tweaks to the system, exactly those which Sanders proposes.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Keep repeating that bullshit about free education even though your colleges in Spain are garbage and your economy propped up by Northern/Western European countries that actually produce things and are able to support your debts.

You also have no idea that opportunities for free or cheap college are already available here, but you're a Euro so naturally you wouldn't.

 

[dank69]

I did not say what you seem to think I said. Prior to Bernie saying he was tired of the "damn emails," he was merely another also-ran. Up until that point, he really didn't have any momentum - he was just the old white-haired guy from the granola state with a bunch of kumbaya ideas. Few were really listening to him. But, when he said that we were all sick of hearing about the damn emails, he was speaking mostly for the Democrats - yes, I know, there's still some froth on the side of your mouth, but it'll be all okay. Just clip your little ruby red shoes together and repeat the magic word - Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi. Bernie may have gained ground with the Republicans by attacking Hilary in that manner, but he didn't have much to gain from Democrats, many of whom were starting to realize that the email thing was probably just another Republican smear campaign.

The moment he spoke those words during the debate (last October, wasn't it?) he instantly turned people's heads and got a ton of attention. He didn't behave like establishment candidates - he wanted to discuss the issues. He immediately gained credibility as being an honest politician. You think he'd have that credibility if he were attacking Hilary over the emails? Over Benghazi? So, a man who would have otherwise been dismissed as some kook who thought he could match up with Hilary, suddenly became a person whom people sick of the bullshit coming out of Washington could turn to.

In that same vein, one of the things that disappointed me about Bernie's campaign was the harping about the Goldman Sachs speech transcripts.

 

[Genx87]

I don't think he made any mistakes. I think the Voters are just not ready for what he offers.

Economic nationalism? I hope this country is never ready for that shit. Sadly the GOP is about to nominate their own version of Sanders.

 

[mizzou]

A Bernie presidency would be utter chaos. He would be so limp wristed when handling internal and international affairs, afraid to scold anyone except rich bankers on "Wall Street."

Also, he never really explained the whole free education thing.

I think Bernie is an excellent voice and representative, but he is not a good leader.

 

[Brainonska511]

Also, he never really explained the whole free education thing.

I agree, it wasn't explained in detail, but from what was released, at least 1/3 of the funding would come from state governments and I doubt some states would be willing to expand higher education funding when many are in the throws of cutting funding to state schools. (On a related note, I also don't agree with totally "free" higher education funding - public schools should be affordable, but students should have some skin in the game.)

The Vermont senator hasn't released many details on his proposal. However, his campaign pointed to legislation he introduced last year that called for the federal government to cover two-thirds of the bill for undergraduate students, with the states handling the rest. This would cost the feds $47 billion a year, while states would be left with a $23 billion tab, he estimated.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/03/politics/bernie-sanders-free-college-costs/

 

[Subyman]

I agree that the constant use of the word socialism did not help him. He was adamant about the strict definition of the word and "democratic socialism" but seemed to be ignorant of the fact that the word has been tainted in US politics.

 

[Ken g6]

I didn't think Sanders had the foreign-policy clout to stand up to the likes of Putin. I think Hillary does.

 

[interchange]

Having this big of a stage for this length of time and not backing down from the straight talk of your platform...I'd say he's done a lot. Not to get elected to president in 2016, but a lot nonetheless.

 

[DougK62]

I don't think Bernie made any major mistakes. The problem is that the DNC has been blaring the Hillary horn for so long that folks are voting for her because they think it's just what they're supposed to do. As soon as Bernie starts campaigning in a state his numbers rise and Hillary's fall. It's happened in every state. Hillary has just had too much of a "head start".

It will be interesting to see who takes the Bernie torch for 2020.

 

[Mandres]

His mistake was being 70+ years old and looking like Dr. Emmet Brown on the national stage. He was always going to be resigned to "Kookie Bernie" status by nature of his appearance and some of the more outlandish policy positions he advocated.

I'm really flabbergasted that the Dems couldn't/didn't run another young, likable governor or congressman. I guess it's Hilary's turn and that would have been too big a threat...

 

[soundforbjt]

His mistake was being 70+ years old and looking like Dr. Emmet Brown on the national stage. He was always going to be resigned to "Kookie Bernie" status by nature of his appearance and some of the more outlandish policy positions he advocated.

I'm really flabbergasted that the Dems couldn't/didn't run another young, likable governor or congressman. I guess it's Hilary's turn and that would have been too big a threat...

How'd that work out for the other side? They ran some younger people and a almost 70 yr old man is likely to win their nomination.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I agree, it wasn't explained in detail, but from what was released, at least 1/3 of the funding would come from state governments and I doubt some states would be willing to expand higher education funding when many are in the throws of cutting funding to state schools. (On a related note, I also don't agree with totally "free" higher education funding - public schools should be affordable, but students should have some skin in the game.)

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/03/politics/bernie-sanders-free-college-costs/

Yeah, in one of the first Dem debates, a guest asked how Bernie planned to make states pay when many of them are already cutting back on education and struggling with other budget issues. His answer was basically, "Oh, they'll pay, if they know what's best for them". Total rabble-rousing idiot.