Missouri Police Officer guns down unarmed 18 year old

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Sinsear

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Bold (pun intended) statement from the poster who has been banned several times for the exact behavior he's accusing others of. In the summer, do you ditch the robe entirely or just go with a hood and your jorts?


Spidey is in the kkk?
 

LTC8K6

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What do you think it is?

I have no idea. I am feverishly looking for better pics of it so I can be let down when it turns out to be unrelated to the case... :D

I have looked at the video from the store, and I don't see anything like it on either of the suspects.

Perhaps it belongs to the officer?
 

LTC8K6

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Two points. First and most important, DAYAMN those are some nice legs. Second, Brown was shot in the eye socket, with the bullet exiting his chin and entering his chest to break his collarbone. In her position - the normal position for a sprint or bum rush - a level shot striking the eye should continue back into the brain as stabilized low velocity slugs simply don't readily radically change vectors. Brown's head would need to be practically horizontal, facing the ground, for that injury path. Either he was charging without being able to see Wilson, or he was collapsing to the ground or otherwise ducking his head. I don't think we can make an educated guess either way without first making the determination of whether he was charging, which makes this useless for determining whether he was charging.


Well said, sir.


I'm not necessarily saying they are lying about having nearly a dozen witnesses that backup every angle of the cop's story, but their motivation would be simple. By establishing this face, they prejudice the public into believing their story. Then, when the witnesses do not appear, another rumor of witnesses refusing to testify out of fear for their own safety can be floated.

Not saying this IS happening, just saying that it's a possibility.

The bullet that hit the eye could have changed direction when it glanced off the top edge of the eye socket, changing it's angle.
 

Knowing

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Support page for Darren Wilson. Up to almost $250k in 4 days.
http://www.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson


Memorial Fund for Micheal Brown
http://www.gofundme.com/justiceformikebrown
-donations will not be used for legal fees


Gofundme.com may collect up to 10% of money donated through their website.

I mentioned those yesterday. There's a new tax deductible fund for Officer Wilson now after the old one crested $200,000. At first the press was offended that people were donating. Then they got offended that people were donating more to the officer. Now they're offended that racists are using it to spread hate even though gofundme is sanitizing comments. A few have gone so far as to suggest that gofundme should take the money out of the fund and give it to the Brown family.

I was kinda surprised to find that the leaps of logic one finds in P&N are rather tame compared to what happens on twitter and beyond.
 

Attic

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I have no idea. I am feverishly looking for better pics of it so I can be let down when it turns out to be unrelated to the case... :D

I have looked at the video from the store, and I don't see anything like it on either of the suspects.

Perhaps it belongs to the officer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhA36PDkC8c

At the 0:30 mark it looks like what's shown by the cone could be what Brown was grabbing. A swisher sweet box. It's a low res pic though. Notice here to that Johnson clearly puts something back on the counter.

Take note of Brown's arm orientation and position as he charges the clerk.


Brown looks like a courteous, well mannered, law abiding citizen here don't you think? Not confrontational or aggressive at all. What a great one to hold up for the Ferguson community. But i'm sure this encounter at the liquor store was an isolated incident.
 

Attic

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WTF? 200k for travel/living expenses + funeral and burial?


I'm not sure how often job loss is after the loss of a loved one. But in cases like this, very dramatized over long periods of time, i'd imagine the possiblity is higher than normal after death in family. Both parents are going to be so emotionally and phyiscally drained even before a vampire like Crump sinks his teeth into them to take whatever he can.
 

LTC8K6

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhA36PDkC8c

At the 0:30 mark it looks like what's shown by the cone could be what Brown was grabbing. A swisher sweet box. It's a low res pic though. Notice here to that Johnson clearly puts something back on the counter.

Take note of Brown's arm orientation and position as he charges the clerk.


Brown looks like a courteous, well mannered, law abiding citizen here don't you think? Not confrontational or aggressive at all. What a great one to hold up for the Ferguson community. But i'm sure this encounter at the liquor store was an isolated incident.

I think Brown has a handful of 2 packs, or single pack cigars.
 

QueBert

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhA36PDkC8c

At the 0:30 mark it looks like what's shown by the cone could be what Brown was grabbing. A swisher sweet box. It's a low res pic though. Notice here to that Johnson clearly puts something back on the counter.

Take note of Brown's arm orientation and position as he charges the clerk.


Brown looks like a courteous, well mannered, law abiding citizen here don't you think? Not confrontational or aggressive at all. What a great one to hold up for the Ferguson community. But i'm sure this encounter at the liquor store was an isolated incident.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/18/michael-brown-jesse-williams-cnn_n_5689345.html
 
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Attic

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OMG Wow, worth watching for some comedy, someone should have had mercy and stopped him. Come on, are we serious with this? That represents the stupidest race baiting garbage of the many morons opining on this. Was the liquor store incident important because Brown stole $5 dollars of merchandise?, or perhaps it was because of how he assaulted the clerk? Na, it was definatley the theft of $5 dollars that is what folks took away from that encounter. According to this tool white guys (see what he did there) steal merchandise all the time and it's not significant. Brown didn't even touch the clerk, this actor never mentions it so he must be the arbiter of what's important in this case and what's not. I guess folks are pointing out the significance of the liquor store incident b/c THEY are the race baiters. Must be easy being an idiot, worked out for this guy.

He's a cute actor though. So I guess he's well represented to talk on these matters on national TV. And the altercation at the liquor store really wouldn't have had an impact on Brown's encounter with the officer, the actor said only bigots would think differently. Yippee.

Are we getting the sarcasm?, i'm laying it on pretty thick.

Also I have been at murder scenes, unfortunately. The body being left out in Brown's case is a very cheap shot at scene procedure. They were investigating a possible murder FFS. If they would have moved or covered the body these same morons would be crying conspiracy!!! if the case doesn't fall their way.
 
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soundforbjt

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OMG Wow, worth watching for some comedy, someone should have had mercy and stopped him. Come on, are we serious with this? That represents the stupidest race baiting garbage of the many morons opining on this. Was the liquor store incident important because Brown stole $5 dollars of merchandise?, or perhaps it was because of how he assaulted the clerk? Na, it was definatley the theft of $5 dollars that is what folks took away from that encounter. According to this tool white guys (see what he did there) steal merchandise all the time and it's not significant. Brown didn't even touch the clerk, this actor never mentions it so he must be the arbiter of what's important in this case and what's not. I guess folks are pointing out the significance of the liquor store incident b/c THEY are the race baiters. Must be easy being an idiot, worked out for this guy.

He's a cute actor though. So I guess he's well represented to talk on these matters on national TV. And the altercation at the liquor store really wouldn't have had an impact on Brown's encounter with the officer, the actor said only bigots would think differently. Yippee.

Are we getting the sarcasm?, i'm laying it on pretty thick.

Also I have been at murder scenes, unfortunately. The body being left out in Brown's case is a very cheap shot at scene procedure. They were investigating a possible murder FFS. If they would have moved or covered the body these same morons would be crying conspiracy!!! if the case doesn't fall their way.

Just a small correction, it wasn't a liquor store
it was a convenience store.
 

LTC8K6

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Same thing, many convenient stores sell liquor, but minors are usually not allowed in liquor stores (depending on the state).

He'd have had to show ID to buy the cigars, too.

My guess is that he had no ID, so the clerk wouldn't sell, so he got mad and stole them?
 

soundforbjt

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He'd have had to show ID to buy the cigars, too.

My guess is that he had no ID, so the clerk wouldn't sell, so he got mad and stole them?

Who knows? Doesn't matter since that wasn't when the officer confronted him, nor to my knowledge wasn't the reason he did.
 

Catriona

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There are four seperate sources including in the prosecutors office that say otherwise. It absolutely has not been proven false, in fact quite the opposite. Try to keep up with the facts of this case and stop spreading your racist lies.


Take it as a compliment. They call you a racist when they're incapable of debating with your logic. It really is the mouth breathing modern progressive's typical attack.

LOL
 

cabri

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I've got as much "proof" as the ones claiming he does have a broken orbital socket.

Similar to the denials you were spouting for a year w/ respect to Martin.

All your defenses ended up going out the window as you kept on providing more excuses for his behavior.

Here, Brown was looking for trouble, he found it and suffered the consequences.

All he had to do was not try to go after the store.
Who knows? Doesn't matter since that wasn't when the officer confronted him, nor to my knowledge wasn't the reason he did.


Doing so, more likely made him extra suspicious of any LEO in that time frame.
He could have just acknowledge the request to move off the street; instead, (like Martin) chose to aggravate the situation by challenging the LEO.
 

Catriona

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Similar to the denials you were spouting for a year w/ respect to Martin.

All your defenses ended up going out the window as you kept on providing more excuses for his behavior.

Here, Brown was looking for trouble, he found it and suffered the consequences.

All he had to do was not try to go after the store.



Doing so, more likely made him extra suspicious of any LEO in that time frame.
He could have just acknowledge the request to move off the street; instead, (like Martin) chose to aggravate the situation by challenging the LEO.

I'm not making any excuses for Brown's behavior in the store. And I agree that whatever occurred in the store likely conditioned Brown's state of mind when he was accosted by Wilson.

The question I have is whether or not Brown's behavior with Wilson warranted what happened. And I haven't seen enough facts to make that determination yet.
 

Attic

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I'm not making any excuses for Brown's behavior in the store. And I agree that whatever occurred in the store likely conditioned Brown's state of mind when he was accosted by Wilson.

The question I have is whether or not Brown's behavior with Wilson warranted what happened. And I haven't seen enough facts to make that determination yet.


Yet we had riots and looting in this town that left a few business destroyed and people injured. That didn't get worked up on its own, it was getting fueled by some of the worst infesters that lock onto these cases, the race baiters.

Could be some time before information sheds more definitive light on the moments between Wilson's approach of Brown, the car altercation and ultimately the killing of Brown. Early on there were indications the autopsy report conducted by investigators would be released once tox came back. Rough guess here is another month. Should have more and more definitive detail than the 2nd autopsy.
 

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I'm not making any excuses for Brown's behavior in the store. And I agree that whatever occurred in the store likely conditioned Brown's state of mind when he was accosted by Wilson.

The question I have is whether or not Brown's behavior with Wilson warranted what happened. And I haven't seen enough facts to make that determination yet.

Could you please link me to the witness that saw this. Please don't link to anything Dorian Johnson said as his story has already been blown by the evidence produced in the autopsy. No signs of a struggle so Brown not grabbed by the throat and pulled into the car by Wilson. Tentative reports are that Wilson had a facial injury which would mean that Brown struck Wilson.
 

Attic

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Similar to the denials you were spouting for a year w/ respect to Martin.

All your defenses ended up going out the window as you kept on providing more excuses for his behavior.

Here, Brown was looking for trouble, he found it and suffered the consequences.

All he had to do was not try to go after the store.



Doing so, more likely made him extra suspicious of any LEO in that time frame.
He could have just acknowledge the request to move off the street; instead, (like Martin) chose to aggravate the situation by challenging the LEO.

To understand the state of mind of some of the posters in these threads it's best to just toss out all reason or accountability you'd otherwise expect of someone.
 

Catriona

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Yet we had riots and looting in this town that left a few business destroyed and people injured. That didn't get worked up on its own, it was getting fueled by some of the worst infesters that lock onto these cases, the race baiters.

Could be some time before information sheds more definitive light on the moments between Wilson's approach of Brown, the car altercation and ultimately the killing of Brown. Early on there were indications the autopsy report conducted by investigators would be released once tox came back. Rough guess here is another month. Should have more and more definitive detail than the 2nd autopsy.

There is no excuse for the rioting and looting that occurred. Maybe it was fueled by the "race-baiters", as you term them, maybe it was fueled by criminals taking advantage of an opportunity, or maybe it was fueled by the ingrained distrust between the Ferguson PD and the black community. Regardless, it did harm to people who played no part in the Brown/Wilson debacle. Not good.