Missouri Police Officer guns down unarmed 18 year old

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spidey07

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Sure I can accept that there is evidence that hasn't been released. Should I assume that evidence exist or should I rely on evidence that is currently available?

So who is the tool now? The guy that believes there is info that backs up claims but that info hasn't been released or the guy who is relying on the info at hand?

Careful, don't embarrass yourself trying to answer that;)

Your information comes from folks who have a very strong motivation to lie, one of whom was brown's felon accomplice. That information also doesn't line up with the other evidence shown.

You're just falling for it fool.
 
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You just love name calling don't you? I'll agree that racism still exists, but it's no longer white on blacks. It's black lynch mobs after whites.

This is a lynch mob

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This is not

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Nor is this:

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ivwshane

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Your information comes from folks who have a very strong motivation to lie, one of whom was brown's felon accomplice.

You're just falling for it fool.

What is the motivation for Tiffany Mitchell to lie? She didn't know brown and she has nothing to gain by lying.
 

spidey07

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Do you know the difference between stumbling forward and rushing forward? I suspect you do but if you want to play the moron, you are doing a fine job.

Since brown had already brutally and viciously attacked the Officer and reached for his gun causing it to fire...

Even one step towards the officer would be considered a good shoot. Just one step toward the officer and the officer is justified in shooting.

Anything other than freeze and get on the ground means you're going to get shot. That's the lesson here, if you don't want to get dead, then don't attack a police officer.

And for damn sure don't go for his gun, because once you do he's free to pretty much fire at will.
 

TerryMathews

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Sure I can accept that there is evidence that hasn't been released. Should I assume that evidence exist or should I rely on evidence that is currently available?

So who is the tool now? The guy that believes there is info that backs up claims but that info hasn't been released or the guy who is relying on the info at hand?

Careful, don't embarrass yourself trying to answer that;)
Find where I've taken a side and you have a point.
I'd advise you to take the same care, but it's far too late.
 

Svnla

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Do you know the difference between stumbling forward and rushing forward? I suspect you do but if you want to play the moron, you are doing a fine job.


Stumbling? Were you there to see it yourself? I thought so. I gave you the definition of "charging" from the Google links, I did not make it up. Even your own source (dictinary.com) does not say anything about "stumbling forward" in the defintion of "charging".

You were saying something about playing the moron? :D Carry on, carry on. Can't debate with facts and logic, pull the name calling card. Let see, "fucking retard" to another poster, and now "moron" for me. Nicely done, bravo. :D
 
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spidey07

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What is the motivation for Tiffany Mitchell to lie? She didn't know brown and she has nothing to gain by lying.

"snitches get stiches"

Her motivation is to tell the same old story of big bad whitey gunning down an innocent black man. She would NEVER say Brown did anything wrong. No, she would absolutely say he wasn't doing nothing wrong. Because that would be snitching, and for that she would get beaten.

This in ingrained into the culture and cannot be broken.
 

ivwshane

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"snitches get stiches"

Her motivation is to tell the same old story of big bad whitey gunning down an innocent black man. She would NEVER say Brown did anything wrong. No, she would absolutely say he wasn't doing nothing wrong. Because that would be snitching, and for that she would get beaten.

This in ingrained into the culture and cannot be broken.

Ahh the racist rants racistly!

Go fuck yourself troll!
 

LTC8K6

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Well, Tiffany says Wilson was firing as Brown ran, and that there were only 5 or 6 shots.

They can't both be true, imo.
 

ivwshane

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Find where I've taken a side and you have a point.
I'd advise you to take the same care, but it's far too late.

Did I say you took a side? No I didn't, I merely pointed out that the fool is the one who believes evidence exists when non has been presented.
 

ivwshane

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Well, Tiffany says Wilson was firing as Brown ran, and that there were only 5 or 6 shots.

They can't both be true, imo.

You obviously didn't read nor did you watch the video. She said he ran, was shot at, jerked, turned around, and was shot at again.
 

soundforbjt

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Well, Tiffany says Wilson was firing as Brown ran, and that there were only 5 or 6 shots.

They can't both be true, imo.

So, the officer couldn't have fired a shot while he (Brown) was running away and hit him? One forensics guy may disagree with you.
 

LTC8K6

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Brady said he could see Johnson at the front passenger side of the car when he and Brown suddenly started running. Brady did not hear a gunshot or know what caused them to run. But he said he did see a police officer get out of the patrol car and start walking briskly while firing on Brown as he fled.

There's another witness who has Wilson firing while Brown is fleeing. Michael Brady.
 

LTC8K6

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I'm saying that Mitchell and Brady are saying that Wilson was firing, plural.

Not that he fired one shot from behind, but that one of the shots Wilson fired from behind hit Brown. That is, Wilson was firing at Brown, and hit him once, which caused him to turn around.

If so, we will have more than 7 empties.
 

LTC8K6

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Anyway, what are we going to argue about for a month and a half until the GJ decides? :D
 

Attic

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You obviously didn't read nor did you watch the video. She said he ran, was shot at, jerked, turned around, and was shot at again.

Did she give immediate account to police or media first? Dorian's account version was given on scene to media camera AFAIK. Possible that narrative was picked up on by others.

Someone brought up a good point about this earlier based on location of gunshot wounds which were all on same side of Brown's body. An indication that the shots that hit Brown would have done so when he was facing the same way (towards the officer).

At this point it looks like it will go to trial and we'll get the same back and forth from media presentation that we saw in GZ.


The danger we all face is that justice is warped to fit agendas, seems that no matter which version of events one finds more likely, it's generally so that Justice is not served in a perverse way here.
 

blankslate

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Anyway, what are we going to argue about for a month and a half until the GJ decides? :D

Yes, and depending on how the the investigation turns out some fuckwit might demand that the OP change the title because of "inaccuracies." :rolleyes:


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Your lying again. Not all the witnesses. Police have over a dozen witnesses exactly corroborating the officers account.

Then we have the physical evidence and witness accounts of the felony assault and battery or attempted murder of a police officer by Brown.

All the evidence points to a good shoot. You haven't learned your lesson nor from history and refuse common sense, fact, logic and truth.

A) those dozen witnesses? absolutely no proof that they exist while we do have proof of 3 named and one un named (the live twitter play by play) that we know exist and have at least something in the way of public statements from.

B) What physical evidence of felony assault or attempted murder? At this point it's alleged, nothing has been released to the public.

C) What evidence points to a good shoot? We haven't had anything other than 3 public witness statements, one twitter live feed and a few snippets of film that don't actually show much of anything.

As usual, you're pulling turds out of your ass and flinging them at the wall. What a clever boy you are.
 

LTC8K6

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Well, we have eliminated the eye socket fracture, so we can move on without considering that now.

We are left with Wilson just having a swollen eye, which is where we were very early in the investigation.
 

TerryMathews

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Did I say you took a side? No I didn't, I merely pointed out that the fool is the one who believes evidence exists when non has been presented.
Ah, my mistake then. When you quoted me I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed you were addressing me. In the future, I'll know that your raving is directed at no one in particular IE moonie..
 

TerryMathews

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Well, we have eliminated the eye socket fracture, so we can move on without considering that now.

We are left with Wilson just having a swollen eye, which is where we were very early in the investigation.
Nothing will be eliminated or proven until the evidence is released.