Missouri Police Officer guns down unarmed 18 year old

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Oldgamer

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Yea I read this and there was another news source who talked about this. Amazing how CNN and Fox and local TV news are circulating unconfirmed "unknown" anonymous sources so quickly. These particular news channels have a clear agenda and that is to smear the name of the dead kid, to muddy, blur, distract people from the actual shooting and who did it, and the fact that this officer (like so many others) has not been arrested.

They gave a very good story about another shooting that took place in St. Louis Missouri in which the Police Chief there was quick to respond to the people and put out ALL information, including the full "unredacted" incident report and the video in full for everyone to see. That is called transparency.

But the reason we don't have this transparency in Ferguson is because the officer most likely did kill this kid in cold blood and flat out murdered him. Ferguson Police are trying to obfuscate the truth and keep people in the dark on purpose because they are still "concocting" their story and probably coaching Officer Wilson in preparation for the Grand Jury. The fact that the prosecutor allowed Officer Wilson to go before the Grand Jury and tell them HIS story shows just how one sided this whole thing is.
 

bshole

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Yea I read this and there was another news source who talked about this. Amazing how CNN and Fox and local TV news are circulating unconfirmed "unknown" anonymous sources so quickly. These particular news channels have a clear agenda and that is to smear the name of the dead kid, to muddy, blur, distract people from the actual shooting and who did it, and the fact that this officer (like so many others) has not been arrested.

They gave a very good story about another shooting that took place in St. Louis Missouri in which the Police Chief there was quick to respond to the people and put out ALL information, including the full "unredacted" incident report and the video in full for everyone to see. That is called transparency.

But the reason we don't have this transparency in Ferguson is because the officer most likely did kill this kid in cold blood and flat out murdered him. Ferguson Police are trying to obfuscate the truth and keep people in the dark on purpose because they are still "concocting" their story and probably coaching Officer Wilson in preparation for the Grand Jury. The fact that the prosecutor allowed Officer Wilson to go before the Grand Jury and tell them HIS story shows just how one sided this whole thing is.

In a town that is about 70% black, how do only 3 black people end up on the grand jury? Man this is setting up for another explosion when the white grand jury gives the officer a pass. That jury has to be 70% black to be considered legit by America and rightfully so. If a black jury oks the shooting, then everybody knows that it must of been a good shoot. I sure hope that all of the witnesses are allowed to testify.

Three black people are among the 12-member grand jury hearing evidence in the Michael Brown case.

Paul Fox, director of judicial administration for St. Louis County Circuit Court, confirmed the racial and gender makeup of the grand jury on Friday. St. Louis County prosecutor Bob McCulloch has said it will be several weeks before a decision is made on whether to charge Darren Wilson, the Ferguson officer who shot and killed Brown on Aug. 9.

Ferguson protests move to courthouse as grand jury convenes
The grand jury consists of six white men, three white women, two black women and one black man. Nine votes are needed to indict.
 

TheFamilyMan

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Amazing how CNN and Fox and local TV news are circulating unconfirmed "unknown" anonymous sources so quickly. These particular news channels have a clear agenda and that is to smear the name of the dead kid, to muddy, blur, distract people from the actual shooting and who did it, and the fact that this officer (like so many others) has not been arrested.

because the officer most likely did kill this kid in cold blood and flat out murdered him. Ferguson Police are trying to obfuscate the truth and keep people in the dark on purpose because they are still "concocting" their story and probably coaching Officer Wilson in preparation for the Grand Jury. The fact that the prosecutor allowed Officer Wilson to go before the Grand Jury and tell them HIS story shows just how one sided this whole thing is.

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Just exactly what then are you doing? It sure sounds like your agenda is to paint this cop as a murdering, psychopathic, racist, time-bomb. You have issues...deep-seeded and damaging issues.
 

Oldgamer

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In a town that is about 70% black, how do only 3 black people end up on the grand jury? Man this is setting up for another explosion when the white grand jury gives the officer a pass. That jury has to be 70% black to be considered legit by America and rightfully so. If a black jury oks the shooting, then everybody knows that it must of been a good shoot. I sure hope that all of the witnesses are allowed to testify.

That is because the prosecutor on the case is biased, he doesn't believe the officer did anything wrong and it is clear he doesn't want to do ANY of this. That is why people in Ferguson have been demanding an unbiased prosecutor. The prosecutor set this up and you couldn't get any more louder with your bias the way this whole thing has been handled.

Yes, we are going to see another major explosion. As in that article I posted here http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2396700 this is what Bill Moyers and others have been talking about. Things will reach a pinnacle point in America and black people will reach a point where they have had enough of this. We are going to see another major Civil Rights revolution.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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They will have to fight through your mom at the front door to get to you in the basement right Spidey? ROFLMFAO!

Spidey notwithstanding, Oldliar may get his wish and heaven help the poor people who listen to those like him and those he causes to have harmed.
 

Londo_Jowo

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In a town that is about 70% black, how do only 3 black people end up on the grand jury? Man this is setting up for another explosion when the white grand jury gives the officer a pass. That jury has to be 70% black to be considered legit by America and rightfully so. If a black jury oks the shooting, then everybody knows that it must of been a good shoot. I sure hope that all of the witnesses are allowed to testify.

Maybe it's due to the fact that St Louis Country is 70% white and the jurors are pulled from a pool from the county.

I suspect it's the same as the county that I live in, the cities no longer have court houses and have a common county court house with the jurors being selected from a county pool.
 

Oldgamer

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Here is a meme that was made and used by the supporters of the cops and supporters of "Officer Wilson". This was posted on the "Law Enforcement Today" FB page. Looks to me like they're promoting officers shooting citizens who don't support the officers.

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WackyDan

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In a town that is about 70% black, how do only 3 black people end up on the grand jury? Man this is setting up for another explosion when the white grand jury gives the officer a pass. That jury has to be 70% black to be considered legit by America and rightfully so. If a black jury oks the shooting, then everybody knows that it must of been a good shoot. I sure hope that all of the witnesses are allowed to testify.

Your answer is in the article. Hint. ST LOUIS COUNTY. :)
 

WackyDan

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Here is a meme that was made and used by the supporters of the cops and supporters of "Officer Wilson". This was posted on the "Law Enforcement Today" FB page. Looks to me like they're promoting officers shooting citizens who don't support the officers.

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More like, stand in front of them and take the same daily risks they do... Just putting that out there.

You are right though... Pretty terrible MEME
 

CitizenKain

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More like, stand in front of them and take the same daily risks they do... Just putting that out there.

You are right though... Pretty terrible MEME

Considering most police fatalities are due to car accidents, I'd say people already do.
 

railer

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Maybe it's due to the fact that St Louis Country is 70% white and the jurors are pulled from a pool from the county.

I suspect it's the same as the county that I live in, the cities no longer have court houses and have a common county court house with the jurors being selected from a county pool.

ROFL. Nah....it can't be that. I'm sure a grand conspiracy is much more likely.
 

Ackmed

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All the people saying that this poor 18 year old was murdered seem to be idiots to me. While not all the evidence is out, there sure seems to be enough to at least suggest that the Officer defended himself justly. And that this kid, was a thug attempting to hard the Officer. Having what appears to be just robbing a store by physical force.

In a town that is about 70% black, how do only 3 black people end up on the grand jury? Man this is setting up for another explosion when the white grand jury gives the officer a pass. That jury has to be 70% black to be considered legit by America and rightfully so. If a black jury oks the shooting, then everybody knows that it must of been a good shoot. I sure hope that all of the witnesses are allowed to testify.

Because you need to be a high school grad, and not have a record?!?! Before you condemn them, how about getting some facts. Such as, how many Officers are there on the force, how many blacks tried out for the force, how many were rejected, and why. Get some stats, instead of making an ignorant blanket statement.

A Police Officer was just killed yesterday in the line of duty on a traffic stop. Where someone attacked him, and used his own gun against him. It happens all the time. Sure looks like Brown was attempting the same thing, but failed.

Considering most police fatalities are due to car accidents, I'd say people already do.

Nope; http://www.odmp.org/search/year/2014

Again, try to use facts.
 
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LTC8K6

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Brown didn't have any choice though, if you run from the cops you're in big trouble.

*there's ZERO proof Brown attacked the cop*

If the 3 cones on the ground near the body are marking brass, they could indicate that Wilson was backing up as he fired.

My main point being that there is evidence of what happened.

If Brown was hit early, and then stood in the same spot for a time, there will be a blood trail and blood spots. We will know. We will even know that he stooped and turned around, as the blood spots will show this.

Johnson has Brown already bleeding profusely from the shot during the struggle at the vehicle. Brown's movements and places where he stopped, should then be marked by a blood trail.
 

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Seriously? There have been at least two witnesses who stated that there was an altercation through the window of the police car. One of the witnesses said the officer was trying to pull Brown in through the window. Why the hell would an officer try to pull someone in through the window? Was he trying to get a blow job or something? Or, you think the cop started the altercation from the window, so he could put himself at a disadvantage?
 

Jaskalas

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Brown committed a robbery
Officer pulls up to them
Brown assaults the officer
Officer pulls out his gun
Brown runs
???
Officer shoots Brown

The question mark is everything. Why did the officer shoot?
 

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St. Louis County Circuit Court administrator Paul Fox said there are three African-Americans -- one male, two females -- and nine whites -- six males, three females -- on the 12-member panel. There are a total of seven men and five women.

No information was given about the ages or occupations of any on the grand jury.

This information on the jury's makeup comes as a key complaint among Brown family supporters continues: that the man whose office is tasked with making the case to the grand jury -- St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Bob McCulloch -- is too cozy with law enforcement, does not have a good relationship with the African-American community and thus should be replaced.

For his part, McCulloch has indicated he won't recuse himself, saying he's simply doing the job he was elected to do.

The county grand jury was randomly selected from an approved pool and has been seated since May according Paul Fox, the director of judicial administration for the St. Louis County Circuit Court.

In many locales, grand juries hear numerous cases during their terms, which cover a specified period of time instead of the duration of a specific case.

Unlike a jury in a criminal case, which convicts someone if jurors are convinced of guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt," a grand jury decides if there is "probable cause" -- based on testimony and evidence presented, in the absence of a judge -- to charge someone with a crime. In Missouri, they don't have to be unanimous to press such an indictment, as long as nine of the 12 agree on a charge.
 

TerryMathews

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Seriously? There have been at least two witnesses who stated that there was an altercation through the window of the police car. One of the witnesses said the officer was trying to pull Brown in through the window. Why the hell would an officer try to pull someone in through the window? Was he trying to get a blow job or something? Or, you think the cop started the altercation from the window, so he could put himself at a disadvantage?

Yes, seriously.

There are too many contradictory eye witness statements, and potentially other accounts as yet unreleased.

I will find testimony far more compelling when we have physical evidence to compare it against. For now, we have a multitude of stories and no way to judge which if any are accurate.