Missing nested quotes (believe it or not)

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Especially in P&N it made following complex discussions much easier. Definitely facilitated intellectual discourse.
 
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I would like to see quoting up to 2 or 3 deep, but there should be some sort of automatic cut-off because some people don't understand the concept of trimming nested quotes.
 

Locut0s

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I'll throw my hat in the ring. 2 or 3 deep would be great. No need for any more than that though.
 
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I hate the way vb does nested quotes....it's so..wrong! They aren't actually nested.

I feel like the multiquote feature is not really a nested quotes thing. There is just a cutoff in place to only quote the last post. The multiquote feature allows you to easily quote multiple posts in your reply without having to open multiple windows and copy/paste quotes like FuseTalk required, such as if you wanted to respond to a few different people in one post.
 

KeithTalent

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Especially in P&N it made following complex discussions much easier. Definitely facilitated intellectual discourse.
I would like to see quoting up to 2 or 3 deep, but there should be some sort of automatic cut-off because some people don't understand the concept of trimming nested quotes.
I'll throw my hat in the ring. 2 or 3 deep would be great. No need for any more than that though.

You can do it manually, but it's kind of a pain in the butt. Thanks to ZV for the method.

KT
 

fffblackmage

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I wouldn't want to do it manually either. =/

At least there's multiquote, I used to do it manually.
 

Zorba

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I agree 2 or 3 levels of quotes would make it much easier to follow the conversation, no more than 3, though
 

evident

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i like the way we had it in fusetalk. if nested quotes got out of hand it would be up to the poster to snip things out. and usually that would happen
 
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Bump--
Is there a plugin for this that is on the radar? It makes discussion so confusing and back and forth exchanges so difficult to follow. It needs to be default; nobody seems to know how to nested-quote.
 

DrPizza

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I'm all for NOT having automatic multi-quotes. There's a choice: people can manually remove the unnecessary quotes the 90% of the time they're nested, or people can manually nest quotes that aren't nested the other 10% of the time - and even then, they're not really that necessary.

Come on, with few exceptions, conversations aren't that hard to follow.
 

Terzo

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I'm all for NOT having automatic multi-quotes. There's a choice: people can manually remove the unnecessary quotes the 90% of the time they're nested, or people can manually nest quotes that aren't nested the other 10% of the time - and even then, they're not really that necessary.

Come on, with few exceptions, conversations aren't that hard to follow.

Removing nested quotes is extremely easy. Adding nested quotes takes a lot more effort. I would accept your argument if there were a simpler way to nest quotes, but as is it's unnecessarily difficult.
 

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4.0.x fixes that, turning it into an option - but it's horrible to deploy on existing DB.
 

DrPizza

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Removing nested quotes is extremely easy. Adding nested quotes takes a lot more effort. I would accept your argument if there were a simpler way to nest quotes, but as is it's unnecessarily difficult.

Unfortunately, as easy as it was to remove nested quotes, they weren't removed FAR FAR FAR more times than they were ever needed. Thus, leaving the "work" to remove nested quotes as optional led to very few people actually doing so. There are relatively few conversations where the lack of nested quotes should be a problem. But, I suppose that people have to read the thread before responding, rather than the last 2 posts in a thread. Another winning suggestion.
 
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Unfortunately, as easy as it was to remove nested quotes, they weren't removed FAR FAR FAR more times than they were ever needed. Thus, leaving the "work" to remove nested quotes as optional led to very few people actually doing so. There are relatively few conversations where the lack of nested quotes should be a problem. But, I suppose that people have to read the thread before responding, rather than the last 2 posts in a thread. Another winning suggestion.

This was honestly what I really liked about it. I could see all the hot discussions without having to wade through 100 comments to try to follow who was arguing with whom over what.

I sadly have to say that discussion and conversation quality has devolved a lot now since the move and subsequent loss of nested threading. We really need auto-nesting put back in. People that don't like it can just learn to use PageDown-- it's not hard. :)
 

Locut0s

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I've been thinking of writing a greasemonkey scrip that would automatically add nested quoting up to 2 quotes deep when you click quote. But that's going to be a real challenge since it's been a long time since I did any Javascript work and I've never written a GreaseMonkey script.
 

Ken g6

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You're a little late. :)

The problem is that even if you do it, other's don't. I've been thinking of writing a Greasemonkey script that would automatically add nested quoting up to 2 quotes deep to a thread, wherever one quote is seen. However, what with people taking quotes out of context, and people "fixing" quotes, this could be quite a challenge. Don't expect me to do it soon.
 
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I've never been able to figure out how to get greasemonkey to work. I haven't tried that hard, but honestly, I shouldn't have to. I installed it for Chrome, then tried to install the script, and it didn't work.