Minvans: Honda Odessey vs. 2004 Sienna: Also any good Odessey/Sienna web forums?

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The Toyota dealers are saying the 2004 Sienna is very hot and I will pay list. I believe that it is a hot van right now. I am interested because it has all wheel drive which I need for my old lady. No one knows when the Honda Odessey will have AWD.

I prefer the Honda over Toyota but no AWD on the Honda.

Any word on the AWD option on the Sienna.

If I get the Sienna, I know I will get ripped.

Thanks.