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IndyJaws

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I might have to throttle back crop production on the farm for a little bit. One of the managers of another department (who fancies himself as a computer techno-geek, but in reality couldn't tell you the difference between DDR and DOS) noticed CPU utilization on one of the machines at 100%. Of course, it didn't affect performance, but in his faulty reasoning, it had to, so he complained. Fortunately, I diffused the situation, but the result is that I'll be scaling back crop growth a little bit for a short time. What I'll probably do is take all the machines in his area out of the acreage, but that will take some time. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up.

Sorry! 🙁

Now it's up to everyone to try to make up the slack. I figure I'll lose appx. 100 WU/day for a little while. :disgust:
 
No problemo my friend 🙂 I'll see what can be done about planting some more herb gardens...

Oh and why not just take the program off the areas that he actively patrols? 😉

Thanks for the warning.
 
Hey Farmer Indy...no need to be sorry! 🙂

I know what you're going through...strange how many just assume they know it all in PC's.....🙁

You've done a fantastic job for the TeAm and I commend you for it! 🙂

Question...you running at night or all day long now? Just wondering when he noticed it....


🙂
 


<< Question...you running at night or all day long now? Just wondering when he noticed it.... 🙂 >>



I'm still doing both full-time and the nocturnal acres (which this machine was part of), but the user turned off the machine last night and didn't turn it back on until after I had sent the stop command at 8 AM. Just bad luck, really. :disgust:

Fortunately, Shux's script is very well-written, so I can temporarily stop all the machines around him. I never did install it on his machine as I knew he would cause a problem if he saw anything on his; same with others in the company in similar positions.

Just a minor setback. :frown:
 


<< I never did install it on his machine as I knew he would cause a problem if he saw anything on his; same with others in the company in similar positions.

Just a minor setback. >>



Remove anything that gets in your way....that means him 😉
 
If he lives in Sacramento Ca tell him one of your Anand teamates just got a new ticket book. I can write him about a hundred parking tickets and meebe change his mind. 😉
 
maybe spouting credentials of people who disagree with him and know he is wrong will help? (well probably not but it might be fun 😛)
I'm an A+ certified stating that seti@home running at low priority should not affect performance of a standard, well built, quality(no lousy parts, bad ram, etc), computer over 300 Mhz or so, provided there is at least 64MB of ram(or more, dependent on the OS... but there should be plenty in the systems). If seti can hinder performance, than so will any modern program so the machines should be upgraded anyways.

Ok, how many other people here have some sort of paper saying they are smarter than that manager?



(BTW.... I know certifications are really worthless, I have first hand knowledge.. I have one and it doesnt make a bit of difference for me 😛 I just get tired of people who assume they know more about computers then everyone else....)
 


<< I never did install it on his machine as I knew he would cause a problem if he saw anything on his; same with others in the company in similar positions. >>




Good job Indy on weeding the crop!

Sorry for your minor set back but it looks to me like you got everything under control🙂
 
Too bad for your loss. 🙁

FYI, the Dnet and Statsaholic version of ECCp clients both have a 'pause if running' feature available to pause the clients if Task Manager is running.

viz
 
Bummer Indy. You try and protect them from themselves but they keep on. 😉

To loosely quote Einstein: "There are two things that are infinite. The Universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the Universe..."

Another fine example of the Peter Principle.

Hope he doesn't raise too much of a stink.
 
Just tell the guy that when SETI finds alien life all those who ran SETI will be protected, the rest will be zapped like in Independance Day......🙂
 


<< Just tell the guy that when SETI finds alien life all those who ran SETI will be protected, the rest will be zapped like in Independance Day......🙂 >>



LOL!! But....i like the idea!!

Maybe the script could be modified to send out stop scripts every 1/2hr or something in case this happens elsewhere, where it is turned off when the stop commands are issued....??

Sorry to hear about the temporary loss 🙁

ConfusedBW
 


<< Maybe the script could be modified to send out stop scripts every 1/2hr or something in case this happens elsewhere, where it is turned off when the stop commands are issued....?? >>



That's not a bad idea at all, Confused. 🙂

Actually, I should have thought of it before, and manually run the stop a few additional times each morning. I was just so caught up in trying to get my output as high as possible, that I might have conveniently not noticed that some clients were still running when I restarted it each afternoon. 😱

I've posted another thread that will help weed out some of the crops that shouldn't be running Seti in the first place. That should help things.

Thanks for all the support everyone! 🙂 It's greatly appreciated!! 😀

P.S. I talked to the department manager that started all of this yesterday when I ran into him this morning. I asked him if the computer in question was working okay now (of course it was - I deleted the service off it) and he said yes. He asked what the stcli process was that caused such high CPU utilization. I explained that it was a distributed computing project that used spare and idle processor cycles to do major number crunching. His eyes kind of glazed over and said, "Oh. Glad I asked." LOL! 🙂
 
For all those running SETI (with permission, of course) where "users" might question why the proc is pegged at 100%, micron just reported in another thread that the latest version of SETIHide allows one to halt the SETI client when chosen programs are started. So, for instance, one could halt the SETI client when Task Manager is started...😀

Dukat
 


<< For all those running SETI (with permission, of course) where "users" might question why the proc is pegged at 100%, micron just reported in another thread that the latest version of SETIHide allows one to halt the SETI client when chosen programs are started. So, for instance, one could halt the SETI client when Task Manager is started...😀

Dukat >>

The next version of SetiHide is even supposed to have the ability to run as a Windows nt/2k service! 😀
 
Man, I hate it when these freaking wannabe computer experts attempt to diagnose, troubleshoot, modify, etc... Especially when it affects me or something I do. Story...

I've got SETI installed on nearly every machine that's a P2-300 or better. The last EDI programmer thought he knew better and he would kill the client and remove the directory if he found it running (yes, despite the fact that he's *NOT* the network admin - I am). Because it was just one machine I didn't bother to force it so I just quit reinstalling the client. Well, a few months go by and a problem pops up on the EDI box. First thing blamed? The SETI client - which isn't even installed or running on the box! In other words, BZZZZZZZZZZ - Try again you clueless twit!
 
Is there a simple benchmark that could be run to demonstrate that the client does not impair performance? It would be nice to have something objective to throw in the faces of the alarmists.

-bazilla
 
Don't worry about it Jaws! We appreciate you even if you did one wu/day bro. 🙂

...now, take my shoe and place it into the ignoramous's....hehehehehe

The only thing I've found that SETI slows down is Quake3, not many playing that at work, lmao. I got like 2-3 fps less with the CLI version running in the background. I've been running SETI for almost 3 years and have yet to see a performance impact on ANY machine with sufficient ram....and I've run it on a ton of 'em.
 
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