Minnesota State Patrol - massive email purge after Floyd's murder - implied cover up

MrSquished

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Cover up about violence to peaceful protestors and journalists.

Who woulda thunk it? I mean this is completely out of character for the blue line.


"Minnesota State Troopers engaged in a massive "purge" of emails and text messages shortly after the agency was accused of using excessive force during the protests and riots over the death of George Floyd last summer, according to court testimony filed late Friday.

A patrol supervisor admitted during a recent hearing that a "vast majority" of the agency manually and permanently deleted those messages. The agency is accused of doing so days after they were made aware of a lawsuit over the troopers' use of force during the protests, according to a separate court record filed Friday.

The purge of communication means troopers may have destroyed potential evidence that could be used against the agency in multiple pending lawsuits regarding its use of force on protestors and journalists following Floyd's murder.


Maj. Joseph Dwyer testified earlier this summer during a hearing on one of those lawsuits brought by the Minnesota chapter of the ACLU on behalf of a coalition of journalists."
 

Moonbeam

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How is that any different from when liberal organizations devoted to social justice issues delete their emails and try to hide their efforts when the prying eye of the public is brought to bear on them?
 
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^^^ One is an official Government agency tasked with meticulous record keeping and evidence retention.

The other ....... isn't.
 

MrSquished

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How is that any different from when liberal organizations devoted to social justice issues delete their emails and try to hide their efforts when the prying eye of the public is brought to bear on them?

If they are covering up crimes, I'd hope they get caught!
 
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ch33zw1z

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How is that any different from when liberal organizations devoted to social justice issues delete their emails and try to hide their efforts when the prying eye of the public is brought to bear on them?

Besides the fact that LEOs are on the taxpayers dime...
 
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Jhhnn

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Meh. My bullshit detector went off when I read this-

A patrol supervisor admitted during a recent hearing that a "vast majority" of the agency manually and permanently deleted those messages.

How would he know that? And why does it matter, anyway? If it's my cellphone & my personal account I can delete whatever I want.
 

Dave_5k

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How is that any different from when liberal organizations devoted to social justice issues delete their emails and try to hide their efforts when the prying eye of the public is brought to bear on them?
Once a lawsuit is filed, or even if the cops had reasonable expectation that a lawsuit might be filed, it just became a sanctionable illegal action. Avoiding "prying eye of public" does not make deletion of emails illegal for a private individual or organization, although it could very well be illegal for a government employee if related to their job. Whereas destroying emails to frustrate a lawsuit or block investigation into potentially criminal actions is quite illegal (whether one is a cop or a liberal organization).
 

NWRMidnight

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^^^ One is an official Government agency tasked with meticulous record keeping and evidence retention.

The other ....... isn't.
That same agency who is tasked with the Meticulous record keeping and evidence retention, is also directly responsible for protecting the public from a threat, not being the source of the threat. Just more of the LEO's protecting the blue line. This just demonstrates that the problem goes higher up the food chain than we all imagined.
 
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Moonbeam

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Once a lawsuit is filed, or even if the cops had reasonable expectation that a lawsuit might be filed, it just became a sanctionable illegal action. Avoiding "prying eye of public" does not make deletion of emails illegal for a private individual or organization, although it could very well be illegal for a government employee if related to their job. Whereas destroying emails to frustrate a lawsuit or block investigation into potentially criminal actions is quite illegal (whether one is a cop or a liberal organization).
I guess my sarcasm needs clarification. There is no both sides argument to be made here because there in no need for liberals to hide their criminality. The pursuit of liberty and equality is neither shameful or against the law and represents actions people are justifiably proud of.

Racist cops acting out their racism, not so much and their attempts to cover up prove it. They know they are scum and subject to prosecution.
 

HomerJS

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How is that any different from when liberal organizations devoted to social justice issues delete their emails and try to hide their efforts when the prying eye of the public is brought to bear on them?
Because those liberal organizations don't work for the state deputized with the power of law enforcement. That is 50x higher in the scale of importance.

Greenpeace can't arrest my black ass for walking down the street just because some white person thinks I don't belong.
 
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Moonbeam

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Because those liberal organizations don't work for the state deputized with the power of law enforcement. That is 50x higher in the scale of importance.

Greenpeace can't arrest my black ass for walking down the street just because some white person thinks I don't belong.

But I’m sure they would take an interest if you were swimming in the ocean.
 
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Guys, it is entirely possible to ignore full of shit dishonest posts from people desperately trying to prop up false "both sides!!!!!!!" arguments, you know, right?
 

Moonbeam

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Ok I snickered but point still stands

Apparently my attempt at sarcasm by evoking both sides was ill advised. Twice now at least I have tried to dig my way out, seemingly to no avail. Your point may be well taken as a rebuttal to what I claimed but what I claimed was ridiculous. There is no other liberal side of what conservatives try to do covering up their evil because social good is not evil and no liberal has any need to cover up anything. The only difference of any import is that what the police have done in this case and what liberal social activists seek to do is the difference between good and evil. There is no inner knowledge of guilt, no awareness that what they do is a crime because there is nothing to be ashamed of and there is no crime to cover up.
 

Vic

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a bit of an update on this story
Everyone of the officers involved needs to be fired without pension and then brought up on charges of violating the free speech rights of peaceful protesters.
 
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Zorba

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Meh. My bullshit detector went off when I read this-



How would he know that? And why does it matter, anyway? If it's my cellphone & my personal account I can delete whatever I want.
First, probably on work phones. Second, if done after an investigation is announced its destruction of evidence, even if on a personal phone.
 

Zorba

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a bit of an update on this story
Sounds like these thugs should be charged with at least assault, and probably some cases of attempted murder.

The days of police investigating themselves needs to come to an end and every use of force should be investigated.
 
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