Mini Displayport to Mini HDMI???

snoturtle

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Hi all

Am trying to find a cable to plug my laptop into a portable projector and so far all I am finding is adapters.

Anyone know if there is a mini displayport to mini HDMI cable out there?

Thanks
 
 

snoturtle

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saw those was hoping to just find a cable instead of a cable and an adapter
but looks like I may have too anyways
 

_Rick_

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DP-HDMI adapters are deemed illegal (by HDMI?), due to the competition between the two standards.
If you have a DP++ output, you can in theory get a DVI signal out of it, and then use that for HDMI. If you don't have DP++ you will need an active adapter.
 

piasabird

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Took me two minutes . . .

These say thay are for MACS some of them. I wonder if there is any difference. I think the standards for mini DP are the same for MAC as they are for Windows PC's

http://www.amazon.com/Cablesson-Mini.../dp/B00675Q2CW

http://www.overstock.com/Electronics...2/product.html

Cant vouch for the quality. Looks like they price out around $29 and they may not have the sound component. I dont know if displayport carries sound or not. You man not want sound for a power point.

Aparently from my reading I think some Apple/MAC computers have a lot of mini-displayport plugs on their equipment. I have seen some reviews of people that video cards with displayport and the adapter cords allow very clean pass-through. Some people have had cards with 2 DVI plus one displayport and they hooked up three monitors and you could not tell which one was using the displayport adapter cord.

I say to hell with the people from the standards committee for HDMI. Maybe they are just jealous and want to force everyone to use HDMI. Sometimes standards just dumb down products.
 
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kevinsbane

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HDMI -> DVI/DP/whatever adapters/dongles are not illegal.

HDMI -> DVI/DP cables, with a HDMI head on one end and DVI/DP head on the other, are considered illegal.

Apparently the only "proper" HDMI cables must have HDMI heads on both ends.

That being said... no one really cares what the HDMI licensing consortium thinks and has been selling said "illegal" cables since the pronouncement last year.
 

piasabird

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Will they will send the Cable police to get you?

Everywhere I look, they are advertising these MAC mini Displayport to HDMI cables. I guess apple is breaking the law big time. Either that or none of the cable supply companies care about some supposed standards law.

When I look at this it is like saying if you mod an ATX case your are breaking the standards law. Oh you put a mini-itx motherboard in an ATX only case, you broke the standards law. It is kind of funny to think that some International standards committee can tell us what to do.

You cant say something is illegal unless you can quote the US law code. I think this is redefining the definition of the word illegal. Maybe it does kind of break some licensing agreement. But it seems the cable companies are selling the cables and adapters. Call the FBI and have them all arrested.

It is only a cable.

I would think of this like PEERING which is trying to bar a competitor from competing in the marketplace.

All we have to do now is to get Intel to quit putting all these displayport jacks on everything.
 
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kevinsbane

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It is only a cable.

Yes, but you cannot say that an HDMI cable is an HDMI cable unless it meets spec; and said "HDMI" cables are apparently not in spec if they have anything but HDMI ends. Thus, to say these cables are HDMI cables is illegal use of a trademarked name on something which cannot use said label; hence "illegal" if they are being sold as HDMI cables.

But like I said, no one really cares what the company in charge of the HDMI standards thinks and are selling the cables anyways.

All we have to do now is to get Intel to quit putting all these displayport jacks on everything.
Never! Displayport is so much more useful than HDMI D: I own something like 6 monitors (5 of them IPS) and none of them have HDMI, and 4 of 6 have Displayport. And the one I have that doesn't have displayport... I wish it had Displayport, not HDMI.
 

snoturtle

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Took me two minutes . . .

These say thay are for MACS some of them. I wonder if there is any difference. I think the standards for mini DP are the same for MAC as they are for Windows PC's

http://www.amazon.com/Cablesson-Mini.../dp/B00675Q2CW

http://www.overstock.com/Electronics...2/product.html

Cant vouch for the quality. Looks like they price out around $29 and they may not have the sound component. I dont know if displayport carries sound or not. You man not want sound for a power point.

Aparently from my reading I think some Apple/MAC computers have a lot of mini-displayport plugs on their equipment. I have seen some reviews of people that video cards with displayport and the adapter cords allow very clean pass-through. Some people have had cards with 2 DVI plus one displayport and they hooked up three monitors and you could not tell which one was using the displayport adapter cord.

I say to hell with the people from the standards committee for HDMI. Maybe they are just jealous and want to force everyone to use HDMI. Sometimes standards just dumb down products.


Those look good but are mini displayport to full size HDMI
Am trying to find mini to mini but doesn't look like they make them like that :(

Will just have to get an adapter
 

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HDMI -> DVI/DP/whatever adapters/dongles are not illegal.

HDMI -> DVI/DP cables, with a HDMI head on one end and DVI/DP head on the other, are considered illegal.

Apparently the only "proper" HDMI cables must have HDMI heads on both ends.

That being said... no one really cares what the HDMI licensing consortium thinks and has been selling said "illegal" cables since the pronouncement last year.

Well, probably not so much "illegal" as against whatever licensing agreement that the manufacturer signs. Illegal means that it is against the law, not that it breaks a contract.
 
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TheStu

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I wonder if MAC has some kind of licensing agreement?

MAC = Media Access Control
Mac = Short for Macintosh, also used as a common name for a computer made by Apple, Inc.

Mac has no licensing agreement, because as it says above, 'Mac' is a name for a computer. Replace the word 'Mac' (or MAC, which is wrong) with 'Inspiron'. Apple would have it, but they don't, because they don't make that cable.

Apple has DVI, HDMI, and Thunderbolt (same shape as MiniDP, and compatible with the adapters) ports on their computers. The HDMI spec says that you can only call it an HDMI cable if it has an HDMI connector on both ends, and they frown on people that make and sell cables that are DVI on one end and HDMI on the other, or MiniDP on one end and HDMI on the other, or anything except 2 HDMI connectors.

All that said, the OP was looking for MiniDP -> Mini-HDMI.