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Millennials - the new Ben Franklin generation?

werepossum

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Thought this was interesting, though it's half a year old. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-hanft/the-stunning-evolution-of_b_6108412.html

Wealthfront - an online financial services start-up targeted squarely and unashamedly at Millennial wallets - raised $64 million last month. That's on top of $35 million that venture firms plowed into the company earlier this year.

Every sweeping cliché about Millennials - that they are addicted to the itch and twitch of immediate gratification, that they are not interested in participating in the casino stock market - is being sent to the generalization graveyard. Not just because of the success of Wealthfront - who has crossed $1 billion in assets under management - but also the growth of Betterment, LoanVest and others who have a hungering eye on the $7 trillion in liquid assets that Millennials will have in their generational clutches within the next five years.

What's particularly revelatory about the success of Wealthfront - they reached one billion in two-and half years, while it took Chuck Schwab six years to get there - is its canny use of technology and whizzy algorithms, the deities of the Millennial, in the service of a rather boring, long-term, Ben Frankliny investment conservatism. This is more often associated with people who need hip replacements than hipsters.

Wealthfront works by first asking a few basic questions - age, income, liquid assets, risk tolerance. It's the bromidic stuff of financial planning for decades. Then it provides a financial plan consisting of ETFs - most of them from Vanguard - that track underlying indices in a variety of asset classes, trades based on what the algorithm instructs. The boil down their practice to: personalize, diversify, re-balance.

It's not surprising that Millennials are willing to put their financial faith in the crunch of algorithmic investing (or as its called, robo-investing from robo-advisors. After all, this is a generation of digital natives and semi-natives who trust code jockeys to find the cheapest plane ticket, recommended the best oxtail pizza, and soon, to provide driverless cars. They will also be the early adopters of Apple Pay and other new transaction modes.

Their faith in technology is understandable. Algorithms don't act in their own self-interest. Algorithms weren't responsible for dreaming up sub-prime loans and nearly bringing down the financial system. Millennials didn't trust authority and conventional sources of wisdom before the melt-down. Imagine now. Wealthpoint argues that Millennials: "...have been nickel-and-dimed through a wide variety of services, and they value simple, transparent, low-cost services.

The Pew Study "Millennials in Adulthood" confirms the Wealthfront thesis finding that "... just 19% of Millennials say most people can be trusted, compared with 31% of Gen Xers, 37% of Silents and 40% of Boomers." If you can't trust people in general - which was the question - what hope is there for the conniving financial advisor?

The technology lure of Wealthfront is unsurprising, but what is remarkable is that Millennials are so drawn to the core Wealthfront investment thesis, which argues against individual stock picking, and balances a personalized mix of actively managed ETFs instead. As they put it, "...our service is premised on the consistent and overwhelming research that proves index funds significantly outperform an actively managed portfolio."

SNIP

We hear so much negativity about millennials that it's nice to read something positive. This isn't a get-rich quick scheme or demands for free loot, it's just good ol' fashioned long term sound investing with a new digital twist. Considering all the negative things that have come out about our traditional banks and investment brokers, this article gives hope for our nation's future.
 
Thought this was interesting, though it's half a year old. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-hanft/the-stunning-evolution-of_b_6108412.html



We hear so much negativity about millennials that it's nice to read something positive. This isn't a get-rich quick scheme or demands for free loot, it's just good ol' fashioned long term sound investing with a new digital twist. Considering all the negative things that have come out about our traditional banks and investment brokers, this article gives hope for our nation's future.

Silents ?
 
The only millennials I bad mouth are the leeches and self entitled brats that are too good to work their way up in life. Every generation had a few no doubt but now it's up to 24%. It certainly appears to be more acceptable which I despise.
 
I think a lot of the stereotypes tied to millennials are more about youth than about what they are intrinsically.

I'm a millennial and have savings, I put off purchases, and I will be purchasing my house in cash, no mortgage. A lot of my friends are the same way, but I also have old friends that still party and blow cash as soon as they get it. Some people grow up faster than others and some never grow up. I think one thing that millennials have a hard time with is failure, but that is for another thread.
 
The only millennials I bad mouth are the leeches and self entitled brats that are too good to work their way up in life. Every generation had a few no doubt but now it's up to 24%. It certainly appears to be more acceptable which I despise.
24%? That's, um, amazingly precise.

I think a lot of the stereotypes tied to millennials are more about youth than about what they are intrinsically.

I'm a millennial and have savings, I put off purchases, and I will be purchasing my house in cash, no mortgage. A lot of my friends are the same way, but I also have old friends that still party and blow cash as soon as they get it. Some people grow up faster than others and some never grow up. I think one thing that millennials have a hard time with is failure, but that is for another thread.
Impressive. I knew a Motorola tech (younger than me, probably fall into Gen X) who dropped out of high school at 16, worked full time while going to night school to get his diploma, bought a very modest house at 17, bought a second very modest house at 18. At 18 he had two paid off houses (very modest 2 BR/1B frame houses, admittedly) plus a high school diploma and his first Associate's Degree. I think every generation has a few like that and no generation has a lot.
 
"Then it provides a financial plan consisting of ETFs - most of them from Vanguard -"

I could have told millennials this info for free. Actually just searching google would have gotten them this info too.

Luckily now they have a startup to tell them what to do. 😛
 
Millenials are like sheep to the slaughter. Millenials know next to nothing about our political systems and our financial systems. They have not yet begun to feel the pain that has been foisted upon them. But I am a big believer in generational cycles, 4th turnings, etc. I just think the cycles are more stretched out due to increased longevity. So the cycle that was expected to begin in 2000 and end in 2020 is really only just now beginning. What used to be a 70 year cycle is now a 90 year cycle. The parents of the boomers have to be almost completely gone before the winter cycle can truly begin.
 
Millenials are like sheep to the slaughter. Millenials know next to nothing about our political systems and our financial systems. They have not yet begun to feel the pain that has been foisted upon them. But I am a big believer in generational cycles, 4th turnings, etc. I just think the cycles are more stretched out due to increased longevity. So the cycle that was expected to begin in 2000 and end in 2020 is really only just now beginning. What used to be a 70 year cycle is now a 90 year cycle. The parents of the boomers have to be almost completely gone before the winter cycle can truly begin.


Explain more
 
24%? That's, um, amazingly precise.


Impressive. I knew a Motorola tech (younger than me, probably fall into Gen X) who dropped out of high school at 16, worked full time while going to night school to get his diploma, bought a very modest house at 17, bought a second very modest house at 18. At 18 he had two paid off houses (very modest 2 BR/1B frame houses, admittedly) plus a high school diploma and his first Associate's Degree. I think every generation has a few like that and no generation has a lot.

How did he pay off 2 houses in less than 2 years? What kind of houses where they?
 
These kids don't seem to understand that these computers they trust are made by the same people they don't trust.

When Vegas changed over from the old mechanical slots to the new computerized ones do they think the house took in less money?

GIFSoup
 
These kids don't seem to understand that these computers they trust are made by the same people they don't trust.

When Vegas changed over from the old mechanical slots to the new computerized ones do they think the house took in less money?


Your point being? What is the solution?
 
I don't know what the "faith in technology" thing means. One generation learned to drive cars and fly. Others stormed the beaches at Normandy and landed on the moon. So now girls post photos of their desserts on tumblr and boys wanker to free porn and suddenly the earth is shaking? The whole "Generation This/That" is a media creation.

A generation is around 30 years and not every 10 like "Time" and "Newsweek" like to invent. The internet has def had impact but so have many things before it. One thing that does distinguish the under 30 crowd is no other generation grew up with as much brainwashing in a broken educational system.

They been force fed "white privilege"..gay/straight alliances..global warming charade..male hegemony..gender oppresion..normalization of disorders liek crossdressing etc..the "disordering" of whats normal making any variance with PC pressures a "phobia" of some sort etc. The reason for this is people mostly stopped caring about their kids. Baby-buster parents were afraid to be "uncool" so they try to be one of the kids. MTV had to alter its vibe because kids weren't in rebellion to parents anymore because the parents were another "friend" of the kid. Parenting is shot because fathers have lost their balls for most part. Parents stopped caring about what their kids were taught.


I was just reading Seinfeld say how he cant even perform on colleges anymore because kids are PC brainwashed loons who think in slogans their OWS buds send them on tumblr and twitter.


"Like Chris Rock and Larry the Cable Guy, Jerry Seinfeld avoids doing shows on college campuses. And while talking with ESPN’s Colin Cowherd on Thursday, the comedian revealed why: College kids today are too politically correct. “I hear that all the time,” Seinfeld said on The Herd with Colin Cowherd. “I don’t play colleges, but I hear a lot of people tell me, ‘Don’t go near colleges. They’re so PC.’


Jerry Seinfeld: Politically correct college students 'don't know what the f--k they're talking about' http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/08/jerry-seinfeld-politically-correct-college-campuses
 
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I don't know what the "faith in technology" thing means. One generation learned to drive cars and fly. Others stormed the beaches at Normandy and landed on the moon. So now girls post photos of their desserts on tumblr and boys wanker to free porn and suddenly the earth is shaking? The whole "Generation This/That" is a media creation.

A generation is around 30 years and not every 10 like "Time" and "Newsweek" like to invent. The internet has def had impact but so have many things before it. One thing that does distinguish the under 30 crowd is no other generation grew up with as much brainwashing in a broken educational system.

They been force fed "white privilege"..gay/straight alliances..global warming charade..male hegemony..gender oppresion..normalization of disorders liek crossdressing etc..the "disordering" of whats normal making any variance with PC pressures a "phobia" of some sort etc. The reason for this is people mostly stopped caring about their kids. Baby-buster parents were afraid to be "uncool" so they try to be one of the kids. MTV had to alter its vibe because kids weren't in rebellion to parents anymore because the parents were another "friend" of the kid. Parenting is shot because fathers have lost their balls for most part. Parents stopped caring about what their kids were taught.


I was just reading Seinfeld say how he cant even perform on colleges anymore because kids are PC brainwashed loons who think in slogans their OWS buds send them on tumblr and twitter.


"Like Chris Rock and Larry the Cable Guy, Jerry Seinfeld avoids doing shows on college campuses. And while talking with ESPN’s Colin Cowherd on Thursday, the comedian revealed why: College kids today are too politically correct. “I hear that all the time,” Seinfeld said on The Herd with Colin Cowherd. “I don’t play colleges, but I hear a lot of people tell me, ‘Don’t go near colleges. They’re so PC.’


Jerry Seinfeld: Politically correct college students 'don't know what the f--k they're talking about' http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/08/jerry-seinfeld-politically-correct-college-campuses

Since you don't like politically correct phrases, this is a bunch of horseshit.
Kids nowadays figured out that instead of saying things like "that's so gay" and unnecessarily offending someone gay for no good reason, they can just say something like "that's lame."
 
Millenials have gotten a lot of shit because a lot of us weren't properly prepared for the world and landed on a shitty economic run to boot. So we've lived with our parents longer, and the numbskulls out there called us lazy for it. Now that enough of us are finally making money, learning how full of crap a lot of our elders were and moving out, sure enough the negativity starts to fade.
 
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Since you don't like politically correct phrases, this is a bunch of horseshit.
Kids nowadays figured out that instead of saying

They didn't "figure out" anything. It was "figured out" for them and enforced. Lots of people went along for the ride thinking just give the Rainbow Mafia a little of what they want and they will stop being pests. Lol they are in for a shock.

The brainwashing also shows in polls where 18-29 yr olds think 28% of population is gay instead of loooow single digits. No genius generation here.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/183383/americans-greatly-overestimate-percent-gay-lesbian.aspx
 
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They didn't "figure out" anything. It was "figured out" for them and enforced. Lots of people went along for the ride thinking just give the Rainbow Mafia a little of what they want and they will stop being pests. Lol they are in for a shock.

The brainwashing also shows in polls where 18-29 yr olds think 28% of population is gay instead of loooow single digits. No genius generation here.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/183383/americans-greatly-overestimate-percent-gay-lesbian.aspx

So young people don't consider gay people pests and mafia like you do, and they are the stupid ones?
 
Millenials are like sheep to the slaughter. Millenials know next to nothing about our political systems and our financial systems. They have not yet begun to feel the pain that has been foisted upon them. But I am a big believer in generational cycles, 4th turnings, etc. I just think the cycles are more stretched out due to increased longevity. So the cycle that was expected to begin in 2000 and end in 2020 is really only just now beginning. What used to be a 70 year cycle is now a 90 year cycle. The parents of the boomers have to be almost completely gone before the winter cycle can truly begin.

Winter is coming.
 
How did he pay off 2 houses in less than 2 years? What kind of houses where they?
He worked all the overtime he could get and could fit into his school schedule - he literally had NO social life, just work and school.

They were very cheap two bedroom one bath frame houses. I looked at one around that same time but passed - it was $12K IIRC and not that bad, nicer than my childhood home but smaller I think. Mainly I just couldn't bring myself to move out of a very nice rental with a pool in an excellent neighborhood into a very cheap house. Houses in that area of East Ridge at that time (~1980) typically ran from $9K to maybe $15K tops. Some of them were even cheaper, depending on how far into the flood plain, but flooded every decade or so. We had a couple major floods a few years after that, beyond the 50 year flood plain, and eventually the government (state I think) stepped in, bought up every house, demolished them, and built up the area, re-opening it as commercial development. I don't know if this guy (don't remember his name, my aunt worked with him at Motorola) still had these and/or others there by that time, but if so then he did pretty well as the going price was well above market. I can remember then wishing I had bought that house, although by that time I had bought a much nicer house in a much better neighborhood.
 
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