Milk thistle

Lean L

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Anyone have experience with the potential side effects of milk thistle? I usually take a tablet after a night of drinking but the next day I usually feel kinda bad. I hear this is because it releases the toxins from your liver into the bloodstream. Is this correct? Anyone have experience?
 

TheInternet1980

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I was going to give you some actual input. However, I decided to google "milk thistle lol". So you get this instead.

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Texashiker

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OP, are you sure its not the heavy drinking making you feel bad?

Why are you taking thistle pills to start with? Even though part of the plant is edible, it dont taste very good.
 

Lean L

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Much like the image I linked, milk thistle doesn't help shit.

Has it not been proven that it helps the liver recover?

Research suggests that milk thistle extracts both prevent and repair damage to the liver from toxic chemicals and medications. Workers who had been exposed to vapors from toxic chemicals (toluene and/or xylene) for 5–20 years were given either a standardized milk thistle extract (80% silymarin) or placebo for 30 days.[15] The workers taking the milk thistle extract showed significant improvement in liver function tests (ALT and AST) and platelet counts vs. the placebo group.
The efficacy of silymarin in preventing drug-induced liver damage in patients taking psychotropic drugs long-term has been investigated.[16] This class of drugs is known to cause liver damage from oxidation of lipids. Patients taking silymarin in the study had less hepatic damage from the oxidation of lipids than patients taking the placebo.
In a 2009 study published in the journal Cancer, milk thistle showed promise in reducing the liver damaging effects of chemotherapy in a study of 50 children.[17][18]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_thistle
 

Lean L

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OP, are you sure its not the heavy drinking making you feel bad?

Why are you taking thistle pills to start with? Even though part of the plant is edible, it dont taste very good.

Milk thistle tablets. I don't taste it
 

Lean L

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Sry. Phrased wrongly. It prevents and repairs.

I eat quite a few things that are straining on the liver. The multivitamins I take every once in a while by themselves are quite taxing (Animal Pak). I'm trying to counterbalance some of it. Better than hoping for the best which is what I see others doing all the time.
 

TwiceOver

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My wackjob MIL had my wife take this while breastfeeding. Don't know what the purpose was, but whatever. She lived through it. Never heard her complain after a night of drinking about any side effects. (Yes ATOT parents, the milk was thrown away after such a night... gees)
 

Texashiker

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There are better things out there than Milk Thistle. NAC, for one. ALA perhaps. Liv.52 another.

You forgot one - leading a healthy lifestyle, stop smoking, stop drinking, maintain an ideal weight,,,,,,.

But all of that would require people to put forth an effort. After all, working out for 30 minutes a day requires a lot more from someone then just taking a pill.
 

ussfletcher

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You forgot one - leading a healthy lifestyle, stop smoking, stop drinking, maintain an ideal weight,,,,,,.

But all of that would require people to put forth an effort. After all, working out for 30 minutes a day requires a lot more from someone then just taking a pill.

None of that will come to your rescue when you are in the hospital undergoing Chemotherapy.
 

Modelworks

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I thought you were going to ask how to kill it. The stuff grows everywhere. I can go out my back door and pick it fresh.
 

IGBT

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if you weren't a drunk you wouldn't need milk thistle so often. Address the booze jones.
 

Lean L

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You forgot one - leading a healthy lifestyle, stop smoking, stop drinking, maintain an ideal weight,,,,,,.

But all of that would require people to put forth an effort. After all, working out for 30 minutes a day requires a lot more from someone then just taking a pill.

Working out does not protect your liver. In fact if anything, the supplements I take for working out harms it.
 

Alone

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I'm going out on a limb here and assume that you're taking some sort of anabolic steroids. In that case, milk thistle might be useful, but there are far better liver protecting drugs.
 

Lean L

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I'm going out on a limb here and assume that you're taking some sort of anabolic steroids. In that case, milk thistle might be useful, but there are far better liver protecting drugs.

No, I don't take steroids lol. Animal pak, fish oil, zinc, magnesium, reservatrol, and sometimes protein shakes. It all adds up to a lump sum of pills in one day.
 

Alone

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No, I don't take steroids lol. Animal pak, fish oil, zinc, magnesium, reservatrol, and sometimes protein shakes. It all adds up to a lump sum of pills in one day.

You're wasting your money. A multi vit, fish oil, and, well, that pretty much covers it. Protein shakes depend on your routine and diet obviously, but Animal Pak? Fuck that.

And considering everything else you're taking, steroids are probably more efficient and possibly safer.
 

Texashiker

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Working out does not protect your liver.

Any good weight lose program should include some kind of workout regime.

Weight lose helps protect against fatty liver.

So yes, in a round-about-way, working out does help protect your liver.