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Military Too Fat, Female, Married, Old

the army lowerd there basic training so more people would join

and for more information about whats not so great about the militay a man by david hackworth has his own website to it at hackworth.com
 


<< They aren't on the right, they just tell the truth, they don't care about being PC! >>


Do you still believe in the tooth fairy, too? 🙂

NewsMax.com is to the right as TheNation.com is to the left.
 
Vespian, have you ever been in the Military? I have, and I can tell you women, and fat ass people don't belong there!
 
The "fat" part doesn't surprise me. Thanx to PC bullsh*t, the P.T. requirements (push ups, sit ups, timed runs, etc.,) for men have been LOWERED to close the wide gap in P.T. scores between male and female soliders. You're average female is not as strong as yer average male (that's just a biological fact), but thanx to this "we all have to be equal crap" the military has lowered it's standards.


Lethal
 


<< Military Too Fat, Female, Married, Old >>



And it has been that way for several decades. Of course, not everyone in every branch is that bad, but the overall condition of our armed forces is still shameful.

 


<< A recent study confirms those impressions. At a November meeting of the American Obesity Association, Richard Atkinson, a professor of internal medicine at the University of Wisconsin, reported that more than half of all service personnel are overweight according to the National Institute of Health standard, and the trend is increasing. The extra pounds increase the risk of becoming a heat casualty, the physician said, as well as injuring bones, joints and muscles. And, of course, heavier soldiers generally have less speed and endurance. >>



And NIH's standards are so far out of whack it makes me laugh! I watch all the time women that do very well on a PT test and have quite an attractive figure get taped. Some of the best damn troops I've had to train and work with were overweight according to standards.



<< The biggest demographic change in the All Volunteer Force is the rise of the "enlisted marrieds," said Charles Moskos, the eminent sociologist of the military, who teaches at Northwestern University. "The average age of marriage for a male in America is 27, and for a female it's 24 and a half," Moskos told United Press International in a phone interview. "In the military it's approximately 24 for a male and 22 for a female. So while the country is getting married older and older, the military is getting married younger and younger." >>



Gee, and an enlisted soldier usually starts his career and gets financially more comfortable about 4-6 years earlier than a college graduate.


That article is pure Grade A crap!
 


<< and btw why does it matter if a newpaper company is left or right isnt the information the same? >>




because you can explain things in different ways.
 
Article is bullshit.



<< but thanx to this "we all have to be equal crap" the military has lowered it's standards. >>


Not true, at least not in the Navy. Our PT test has steadily gotten harder in the 17.5 years I have been in.


<< And it has been that way for several decades. Of course, not everyone in every branch is that bad, but the overall condition of our armed forces is still shameful >>


Says who? You? And you are...?
 


<< Not true, at least not in the Navy. Our PT test has steadily gotten harder in the 17.5 years I have been in. >>



Would that be because you are getting older and slower, perhaps??? Sorry, I just had to say that.

[Max picks up a cold trout and slaps himself with it]
 
and btw dont forget your ALOT stronger and have more muscle which weights more

btw im joing the army in 2 years (infantry 2-4 yrs, light wheel vechile mechanic 6-12 yrs)
 


<< That article is pure Grade A crap! >>



Sorry, i disagree. I have a military background as well, and many of its points are dead on. Unless you disagree with the premise of the article, "Wars are best fought by young, childless males," then i don't see how you could possibly make the contention that the article is "pure grade A crap."

The plain truth is that women in the military (and the attendant problem of pregnancy which comes along with it) and allowing married male soldiers in their initial enlistments to join, is causing a problem with unbelievable ramifications on the military. Allowing females to serve alongside males in close conditions, particularly aboard warships, is also a recipe for disaster. The Navy's average for females returning pregnant from a seaborne deployment is 10%. Here's a typical example:

"During a recent deployment of the carrier Theodore Roosevelt, for example, 45 of 300 women did not deploy or complete the cruise due to impending childbirth. Eleven of the 45 were flown off the ship while underway--probably in safe, carrier onboard delivery (COD) aircraft."

"The Center for Naval Analysis recently found that female sailors? "unplanned loss" rate (23-25%) is more than two and a half times the rate for men (8-10%). "

Both these are from this report, which examines the question the Navy is deciding now, whether to put women aboard deployments of Trident nuclear submarines. Part of the evaluation? "If the women enjoy the excursion and disaster does not occur, the experiment will be declared a success." WTF????????
 


<< Both these are from this report, which examines the question the Navy is deciding now, whether to put women aboard deployments of Trident nuclear submarines. Part of the evaluation? "If the women enjoy the excursion and disaster does not occur, the experiment will be declared a success." WTF???????? >>


Sorry this is done and over with. Women will not serve aboard subs. The new class is not even being designed to berth women.

Dave Sohmer- Chief Petty Officer- USN
USS Pennsylvania (SSBN 735) 1987-92
USS Florida (SSBN 728) 1988
Submarine Squadron 20 1992-1996
USS Louisiana (SSBN 743) 1996-2001
 
<< Sorry this is done and over with. Women will not serve aboard subs. The new class is not even being designed to berth women.

Dave Sohmer- Chief Petty Officer- USN
USS Pennsylvania (SSBN 735) 1987-92
USS Florida (SSBN 728) 1988
Submarine Squadron 20 1992-1996
USS Louisiana (SSBN 743) 1996-2001 >>



If that was decided in this one instance, i think that appropriate, but that example was designed as exactly that... an example of how the military is trying to shoehorn the wrong type of people into the wrong types of positions. I still contend that the premise and conclusions of the article are correct, valid, and will be of increasing importance at such time as we face a more evenly-matched adversary than, say, Iraq or Afghanistan.
 
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Anyone who doesn't realize that story is TRUE has not served in the Armed Forces... or they are trying to show they are big, bad, and just as tough as the old timers were. For some in the military i bet they are, but on average no way.
Military fitness standards have been on the decline since the early 90's. Matter of fact they created an entirely new DA Form705-(physical fitness test score card) in the late 90's.

Quick example:
The ARMY 2-mile run for a 17-21yr old male, 100% score went from...
-the old time listed from 1987-98 was = 11:54
-the new score as of Jun98 til now = 13:00

Now can anyone honestly say they haven't lowered the standards? Gimmie a break...
Staff Sergeant, US ARMY (1988-1996)
Dco 1st BN (ATK) 82D AVN BDE, Fort Bragg, NC


 


<< Vespian, have you ever been in the Military? I have, and I can tell you women, and fat ass people don't belong there! >>



You must be absolutely right! Just like your friend Newt claims, we women cannot survive in a ditch and are horrible at hunting giraffes 😉 hmmmm
 
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