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Military spending is still going to increase:(

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Anarchist420

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Despite Obama saying he plans to cut military spending, he's not.

What he's doing is decreasing the rate of growth in military spending. He's not actually making cuts to the military.

"$20T in cuts over 5 years" may not make much of a difference, just as "capping spending" at n% of GDP may not save society.

He's no different from the way the Republicans are about welfare spending. The Republicans couldn't reduce welfare spending if their life depended on it, which is why the GOP will dissolve if Romney gets the nomination.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/blog/2012/01/06/cuts-what-cuts

Why should I suffer the effects when hyperinflation rears its ugly head?

Anyway, everyone who didn't vote for the Browne Amendment when Dr. Paul proposed it is none other than a stinky shitstain. The militarist assholes need to be voted the fuck out of office!
 
THE RULE HAS CHANGED. There is new game in town.

Bill Clinton ordered 50 Tomahawks Cruise missiles costing $100,000,000 each to destroy $50 mud houses that belonged to Osama's family. What a stupidity? What a poor ROI (Return On Investment)! And then Bush went into Iraq!

In return Osama's attack on the US.
Cost: 19 martyrs and less than $500,000.
Cost to the West: over 3,000 dead.

At least $1,000,000,000,000 (one trillion) dollars economical loss in one year. This includes the ripple effect.

Osama's ROI with respect to: life = 3,000/19 = 158 fold.
Dollar = $1 tr./500K = 2,000,000 fold

That is modern warfare. The West will loose.
 
LiuKangBakinPie said:
THE RULE HAS CHANGED. There is new game in town.

Bill Clinton ordered 50 Tomahawks Cruise missiles costing $100,000,000 each to destroy $50 mud houses that belonged to Osama's family. What a stupidity? What a poor ROI (Return On Investment)! And then Bush went into Iraq!

In return Osama's attack on the US.
Cost: 19 martyrs and less than $500,000.
Cost to the West: over 3,000 dead.

At least $1,000,000,000,000 (one trillion) dollars economical loss in one year. This includes the ripple effect.

Osama's ROI with respect to: life = 3,000/19 = 158 fold.
Dollar = $1 tr./500K = 2,000,000 fold

That is modern warfare. The West will loose.
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Indefinite detention for you.
 
As Ron Paul mentioned at the debate, they're not talking about cutting anything. They're talking about reducing future increases which is not an actual cut.
 
LiuKangBakinPie said:
THE RULE HAS CHANGED. There is new game in town.

Bill Clinton ordered 50 Tomahawks Cruise missiles costing $100,000,000 each to destroy $50 mud houses that belonged to Osama's family. What a stupidity? What a poor ROI (Return On Investment)! And then Bush went into Iraq!

In return Osama's attack on the US.
Cost: 19 martyrs and less than $500,000.
Cost to the West: over 3,000 dead.

At least $1,000,000,000,000 (one trillion) dollars economical loss in one year. This includes the ripple effect.

Osama's ROI with respect to: life = 3,000/19 = 158 fold.
Dollar = $1 tr./500K = 2,000,000 fold

That is modern warfare. The West will loose.
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Good for Tibet and other occupied Chinese territories to know.
 
LiuKangBakinPie said:
Bill Clinton ordered 50 Tomahawks Cruise missiles costing $100,000,000 each
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Cost per missile: $569,000.

Amount of accuracy in your post: 0.56%.

In return Osama's attack on the US.
Cost: 19 martyrs and less than $500,000.
Cost to the West: over 3,000 dead.
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Because that attack is repeatable over and over. Right.

That is modern warfare. The West will loose.
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Such nonsense.

The west is not 'going to lose'. The Muslims are almost entirely defending themselves.

Yes, terrorism is possible. Limited terrorism.

That's not 'losing a war'.
 
LiuKangBakinPie said:
THE RULE HAS CHANGED. There is new game in town.

Bill Clinton ordered 50 Tomahawks Cruise missiles costing $100,000,000 each to destroy $50 mud houses that belonged to Osama's family. What a stupidity? What a poor ROI (Return On Investment)! And then Bush went into Iraq!

In return Osama's attack on the US.
Cost: 19 martyrs and less than $500,000.
Cost to the West: over 3,000 dead.

At least $1,000,000,000,000 (one trillion) dollars economical loss in one year. This includes the ripple effect.

Osama's ROI with respect to: life = 3,000/19 = 158 fold.
Dollar = $1 tr./500K = 2,000,000 fold

That is modern warfare. The West will loose.
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Where did you get the cost of a tomahawk at 100M? They are about 500K to 1.5M each.

What would have been considered the ROI if he had been in a hut.? Nothing except that another Stark would not happened. So the ROI would have only been the cost of a Stark repair. Poor ROI even there. If you accurately predict the futur, please enlighten us. Everyone has 20?20 hindsight.
 
Anarchist420 said:
Military spending is still going to increase🙁
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GOOD!

With iran working on a nuclear weapon, we need to keep our military ready.

And lets not forget that some 20 year old kid just got handed the keys to a nuclear stockpile in north korea.

But for some reason, we should cut our military budget?
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

I'm embarrassed to be an American sometimes. Such screwed up priorities and self made wars.
 
Is this one of those things where they are assigned $XXXX amount, and if they do not spend it, their budget will be reduced next year? So they just buy a bunch of useless stuff?
 
LiuKangBakinPie said:
THE RULE HAS CHANGED. There is new game in town.

That is modern warfare. The West will loose.
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As others have pointed out, your numbers are wrong. However, the thing that you pointed out is absolutely correct. Osama has said in the beginning that this is exactly the strategy that is required to bring down western powers, and we've seen it.

Just a few domestic terrorists or a few foreign ones in western countries creating some trouble and a few more skirmishes with foreign powers like Iran/Syria, and the house of cards will tumble. It's already shaky.
 
Texashiker said:
GOOD!

With iran working on a nuclear weapon, we need to keep our military ready.

And lets not forget that some 20 year old kid just got handed the keys to a nuclear stockpile in north korea.

But for some reason, we should cut our military budget?
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you believe their making a nuke.. ookay how they gonna get it over to the US.. hmm?? they cant even afford enough gasoline to get a plane or boat over there with it.. as for israel.. who gives a ---- its israel its been bombed, shot, stabbed, and run over by more armies in its entire history as a piece of physical ground than anywhere else in the middle east.
i say whats a nuke gonna do that everything since biblical times and the crusades HAS NOT done already? if i ruled the world id vacate the area.. order nearby nations to saturate it via artillery and bombs to the point where nobody sane would live there ever again.
israel from the get go was a bad idea.. the second muhammed visited jerusalem i would have just packed up and moved away. no sense making war for ones spiritual beliefs, its like having a street brawl over who's imaginary friend is better. even if you win, your still adolescent
 
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EagleKeeper said:
Where did you get the cost of a tomahawk at 100M? They are about 500K to 1.5M each.

What would have been considered the ROI if he had been in a hut.? Nothing except that another Stark would not happened. So the ROI would have only been the cost of a Stark repair. Poor ROI even there. If you accurately predict the futur, please enlighten us. Everyone has 20?20 hindsight.
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Sorry about the numbers if they are not spot on but the point I try to make is the money spend against a enemy lot of them in caves and places thats wort than less the uniform the guy wears who push the button. They dont care if you wipe their whole country to the ground because its going to cost $$$$$$$$$$$$$ and the news in the world “Death of Muslim babies by infidels”.

CNN, ABC, CBS are broadcasting live. Al-Jazeera will pour gasoline on the fire. The news will spread like wildfire. “Americans killed 6 babies, 10 babies”.

Then spent more money only to complete that circle again. In the end. US economy is lower. US citizens get pissed of at their government and you spent time fighting who runs the country while they build 200million Walking, Talking, Non-Thinking, West-Hating, Pre-Programmed, Suicidal, Parasitic, Terrorist Robots
 
IonusX said:
you believe their making a nuke.. ookay how they gonna get it over to the US.. hmm??
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Doesn't Iran sell crude oil on the world market? That means they have super tankers leaving Iran on a regular basis.

Ship the nuke to some country in south America via a super tanker carrying crude oil, then drive the nuke across the border from mexico to the US.

If we can not stop 10 - 20 million illegal immigrants from crossing the border, how can we stop a nuke?

Why not hire some drug smugglers? If they can get shipments of coke, heroine, weed,,, into the USA, why not a bomb.

Put the nuke on a super tanker, then ship it straight to Houston Texas. Detonate the nuke in Houston harbor, destroying 20% of our crude production. The refineries in Houston refine close to 20% of the gasoline used in the US.

Put the nuke on a cargo ship, send it straight to the port of New York. Detonate the nuke in the port, effectively destroying one of the largest ports in the US.

Need any more examples?
 
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IonusX said:
you believe their making a nuke.. ookay how they gonna get it over to the US.. hmm?? they cant even afford enough gasoline to get a plane or boat over there with it.. as for israel.. who gives a ---- its israel its been bombed, shot, stabbed, and run over by more armies in its entire history as a piece of physical ground than anywhere else in the middle east.
i say whats a nuke gonna do that everything since biblical times and the crusades HAS NOT done already?
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High school still out of session in Canada?
 
PeshakJang said:
High school still out of session in Canada?
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regretably your the one in denial..
lets be real here your going to care about a countruy a million miles away that hasnt done a ---- thing for you or your nation (on the hole) and keeps pestering its neighbors with idle threats. it has also been the scene of more invasions and wars over history that im suprised every day that goes by why folks still live there. its like building your house over a quick sand pitt and wondering why your house keeps sinking..
a nuclear attack on israel would mean little..
iran ahs no aircraft that could make it form iran to the US on a single tank of gas. the math isnt there..
you send a warship outside the straight atm and well ill let the US's naval presence speak for itself.

i also am a firm believer that iran has no nuclear weapons program. nuclear energy, id buy that anyday. its no secret they have access to energy grade uranium. and that they now have a plant capable of processing it. heck if they were just mining it id buy that too. uranium in any grade is pricey stuff.
they said the same thing about iraq too.. take it away bush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_tFKa2_YBQ&feature=related
yeah ten bucks says obama borrows that jokes for his next correspondents dinner
 
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LiuKangBakinPie said:
THE RULE HAS CHANGED. There is new game in town.

Bill Clinton ordered 50 Tomahawks Cruise missiles costing $100,000,000 each to destroy $50 mud houses that belonged to Osama's family. What a stupidity? What a poor ROI (Return On Investment)! And then Bush went into Iraq!

In return Osama's attack on the US.
Cost: 19 martyrs and less than $500,000.
Cost to the West: over 3,000 dead.

At least $1,000,000,000,000 (one trillion) dollars economical loss in one year. This includes the ripple effect.

Osama's ROI with respect to: life = 3,000/19 = 158 fold.
Dollar = $1 tr./500K = 2,000,000 fold

That is modern warfare. The West will loose.
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lol what? 100 million per missile??? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAH
more like 500K per missile and that is A LOT cheaper than taking the risk of having a F-15E shot down.
 
IonusX said:
regretably your the one in denial..
lets be real here your going to care about a countruy a million miles away that hasnt done a ---- thing for you or your nation (on the hole) and keeps pestering its neighbors with idle threats. it has also been the scene of more invasions and wars over history that im suprised every day that goes by why folks still live there. its like building your house over a quick sand pitt and wondering why your house keeps sinking..
a nuclear attack on israel would mean little..
iran ahs no aircraft that could make it form iran to the US on a single tank of gas. the math isnt there..
you send a warship outside the straight atm and well ill let the US's naval presence speak for itself.

i also am a firm believer that iran has no nuclear weapons program. nuclear energy, id buy that anyday. its no secret they have access to energy grade uranium. and that they now have a plant capable of processing it. heck if they were just mining it id buy that too. uranium in any grade is pricey stuff.
they said the same thing about iraq too.. take it away bush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvliUuXjbL4&feature=related
yeah ten bucks says obama does the same thing at the next white house dinner..
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I don't care about any of that. I'm just wondering why somebody in grade school has such an opinion on the matter.
 
OutHouse said:
lol what? 100 million per missile??? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAH
more like 500K per missile and that is A LOT cheaper than taking the risk of having a F-15E shot down.
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I mean you dont see my point. Its money spent on a war you cant win.

Let me try to explain it like this maybe you American can see.

Lets say somebody invade your country. Your Government is gone and now your under a different ruling with different beliefs. But your schools and the way you are brought up is still the American way like its been for ages. What is going to happen. The people are going to start to fight and theres going to be a war. Your going to use terrorist tactics on the current regime till they are overthrown. Do you see what I mean?

You can force a different democracy on people who get told at schools and since birth USA is evil, Your God say if one is hurt kill so many even if you sacrifice yourself.

Your going to spend millions after millions on he wrong things. Plus your federal bank system is not helping. Not going to go into it because its been working so far. But for how long is it going to work when your spending millions on something no one can win?
 
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