military police

[Ylen13]

im bored so decided to ask a question

What kind of rights do mp have in usa when they are off base. Can they stop u for speeding,arrest u if u in the middle of the fight.Im assuming everyone are civilian othen mp

 

[stebesplace]

They have no basic previleges off post.

 

[bunker]

Originally posted by: stebesplace
They have no basic previleges off post.

Exactly. The Uniform Code of Military Justice is a lot different than civilian laws.

 

[SlowSS]

Military Police have NO Policing Authority off base.

They do have privileges and rights like any other citizens.

 

[bigredguy]

Depends, NG mps can be called upon by the governor of a state to act as police in time of need. Also nothing can stop them from pulling you over with there police vehicle and making a citizens arrest.

 

[stebesplace]

Originally posted by: bigredguy
Depends, NG mps can be called upon by the governor of a state to act as police in time of need. Also nothing can stop them from pulling you over with there police vehicle and making a citizens arrest.

Except their word in court has no say over yours since they are not deemed a state official or local township.

 

[justint]

Originally posted by: bigredguy
Depends, NG mps can be called upon by the governor of a state to act as police in time of need. Also nothing can stop them from pulling you over with there police vehicle and making a citizens arrest.

And nothing is to stop me from shooting them if they try that.

 

Originally posted by: justint

Originally posted by: bigredguy
Depends, NG mps can be called upon by the governor of a state to act as police in time of need. Also nothing can stop them from pulling you over with there police vehicle and making a citizens arrest.

And nothing is to stop me from shooting them if they try that.

maybe, depending on situation, charging them with impersonating a police officer...

 

[ElFenix]

eh, can't they round up soldiers in bars and stuff? thats off base

 

if you want to know more, PM Rogue, I do believe he is an MP.

 

[justint]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
eh, can't they round up soldiers in bars and stuff? thats off base

It depends. The shore patrol etc. has authority over military personnel off base particularly in foriegn countries (mostly because the local cops don't want to have to deal with them), but they can't enforce other laws and they can't touch a civllian.

 

[OutHouse]

as a former SP in the Air Force, military police have no jurisdiction at all with civilians or civilian laws (possee cometatas (sp)). For instance when we have a convoy that went off base to another site with "sensitive cargo" we had a US Marshall in our convoy to take care of any civilians who caused us any trouble. Marshalls have the power to arrest anybody anywhere.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
eh, can't they round up soldiers in bars and stuff? thats off base

Not in the states. but over seas they can but it depends on the SOFA (status of forces agreement)

 

[Ylen13]

interesting, i thought the had basic police right, guess i was wrong

 

[KDOG]

Yes, its true that MPs' have no authority off base. HOWEVER, I have SEEN a chase begin on base ( I was in the Air Force for my 4, stationed at Dover AFB DE ) and the SPs' sure enough, chased them off base and nabbed them a few miles down RT 13.... They CAN go after you off base if you have commited a crime on base and they are chasing you.... Even though I do believe they have to notify local law enforcement, which they would do any way for back up reasons and the common sense of letting everyone know whats up. Almost every military base has a "mutual aid" agreements with the surrounding localities...I know the Fire Departmen on base (which is what I did) had one with the city of Dover.

 

[Cat13]

Yep, nothing they can do off base. We have base housing that is located a few miles off the base and the SP's have to drive back and forth to patrol, but they can't do anything about incidents that happen between them, they can however assist. I believe it is a joint agreement between the base and the city. I have noticed many times that when civilian cops come on base for one reason or another, if they see something wrong they will do something about it.

 

[AndrewR]

It's inaccurate to state that they never have authority off base. If the government declares a site a national security site (cannot recall the exact terminology), military police/security can secure that site with full law enforcement authority. So, for instance, if an F-117 crashes, that crash site is declared a national security site, and the nearest Security Forces/MPs/PAMO will be there guarding the wreckage until it's salvaged.

So, if you see a bunch of guys off base guarding something with automatics weapons while wearing BDUs, don't assume that they can't touch you and try to waltz pass them. It might turn out very badly for you.

Further, OSI (Office of Special Investigations) for Air Force (CID for Army and NCIS for Navy/USMC) have the authority to conduct surveillance of military personnel off base, though I suspect that they coordinate with local LE to let them know what's going on. I would also suspect that they want to apprehend someone off base, they must either seek approval or have local LE there with them -- likely the latter in case civilians are involved.

 

[SlowSS]

Originally posted by: AndrewR
It's inaccurate to state that they never have authority off base. If the government declares a site a national security site (cannot recall the exact terminology), military police/security can secure that site with full law enforcement authority. So, for instance, if an F-117 crashes, that crash site is declared a national security site, and the nearest Security Forces/MPs/PAMO will be there guarding the wreckage until it's salvaged.

So, if you see a bunch of guys off base guarding something with automatics weapons while wearing BDUs, don't assume that they can't touch you and try to waltz pass them. It might turn out very badly for you.

Further, OSI (Office of Special Investigations) for Air Force (CID for Army and NCIS for Navy/USMC) have the authority to conduct surveillance of military personnel off base, though I suspect that they coordinate with local LE to let them know what's going on. I would also suspect that they want to apprehend someone off base, they must either seek approval or have local LE there with them -- likely the latter in case civilians are involved.

I don't believe the original poster was talking about special circumstances or getting any agreement from local LE.

I think he is just asking if military police have any legal authority and act like LEO in town.

I've been SP, in charge of SP and in charge of F-18 crash site. And yes, with local LE's agreement,
we can conduct certain security tasks, however, our tasks can only be conducted within the scope
of agreement. If it's SP, then our power is limited to control military personnel only,
if it's security of crash site, then all we could do is keep unauthourized people away from the site,
we could not arrest them unless individual becomes aggressive, we had to call in local LEOs for any arrestments.

The agreements can be different, but I don't see it being too far off then ones that I've seen, unless, it deals with top secret equipments/documents.