Military assesment shows caravan not a threat but unregulated malitias are

[HomerJS]

In another episode of Trump lies, spouts bullshit and the dummies believe him, the made up stories of the caravan have been exposed by own military. The military in their own report say the immigrants are not the threat but gun totin' nutters who have been primed to show up to the border are.

As President Donald Trump directs thousands of troops to the U.S.-Mexico border in a show of military force against an approaching caravan of migrants from Central America, preliminary intelligence assessments are preparing for encounters with a litany of groups from unregulated militias to transcontinental criminal organizations

The documents go onto highlight historical protests that support immigrants crossing the U.S. border. Those protests in some cases have shut down points of entry controlled by Customs and Border Protection, but the assessment concludes that protests are “normally peaceful unless extreme right or left groups attend.”

Inside the document based on past history 20% of the caravan will make it to the border. That means Trump is sending 15,000 troops to "protect" us from 1400 people

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-migrant-caravan-border-troops-1196855

 

[UNCjigga]

Funny how Trump's own generals leaked the assessments to Newsweek.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

It's even spelled right.

 

[zerocool84]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

It's even spelled right.

Yes, the constitution only matters to you when it supports your cause but god forbid the constitution has anything in there allowing people darker than yourselves have any rights.

 

[ivwshane]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

It's even spelled right.

What part of "well regulated" are you having a problem with? The states have a well regulated militia, they are called the national guard.

Remember when the federal government used to put down rebellions and insurrections? I bet you didn't realize that stopping such things are actually a constitutional requirement.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Yes, the constitution only matters to you when it supports your cause but god forbid the constitution has anything in there allowing people darker than yourselves have any rights.

That's bullshit. You don't like my political position so all you have is to cry a lie about racism. Where or when have I ever called for the restriction of rights based on the color of anyone's skin? Never, so get over yourself.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

What part of "well regulated" are you having a problem with? The states have a well regulated militia, they are called the national guard.

Remember when the federal government used to put down rebellions and insurrections? I bet you didn't realize that stopping such things are actually a constitutional requirement.

I'm regulated, the State, Federal and local governments regulate the shit out of all of us. Are you claiming you're not?

 

[HomerJS]

I'm regulated, the State, Federal and local governments regulate the shit out of all of us. Are you claiming you're not?

Your focus on the word militia seems to indicate you agree Trump fear of the "imminent threat" is complete bullshit contradicted by his own military. Deflect much??

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Your focus on the word militia seems to indicate you agree Trump fear of the "imminent threat" is complete bullshit contradicted by his own military. Deflect much??

Just show me in your link where it says the "caravan is not a threat". I'll wait.

 

[ivwshane]

I'm regulated, the State, Federal and local governments regulate the shit out of all of us. Are you claiming you're not?

God you are fucking stupid.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

God you are fucking stupid.

You hate it when someone disagrees with you, don't you?

 

[ivwshane]

You hate it when someone disagrees with you, don't you?

No, I hate stupid people, liars, and hypocrites.


No worries though, you'll get yours. What goes around comes around.

 

[feralkid]

That's bullshit. You don't like my political position so all you have is to cry a lie about racism. Where or when have I ever called for the restriction of rights based on the color of anyone's skin? Never, so get over yourself.

So...tossing grenades at brown people is somehow not restricting their rights?

Shit. For. Brains.

 

[HomerJS]

Just show me in your link where it says the "caravan is not a threat". I'll wait.

I said the military told you what they consider the real threat. They also "show" (based on their expectations) approaching immigrants are not the real threat.

Why are you bashing our troops?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Just show me in your link where it says the "caravan is not a threat". I'll wait.

Your choice of words, "in your link", is quite specific and utterly irrelevant so perhaps you have seen this?

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...ing-for-the-usa.2555395/page-24#post-39633911

My link is to the military threat assessment which dismisses all but the most bizarre defense of what constitutes a threat. It is possible that someone may skin a knee, but in terms of "invasion"? There isn't one. The people who know better than you or Trump have looked at this, not from a political perspective but a reality-based one.

HTH.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Yes, the constitution only matters to you when it supports your cause but god forbid the constitution has anything in there allowing people darker than yourselves have any rights.

Ah, the ol' create racism where there is none leftist deflection defense. A real staple of the leftist arsenal today.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I'm wondering if anyone else has looked into the units that are actually being deployed? They are all logistical/support units. There are no combat units which makes sense since the Posse Comitatus Act prevents US troops from enforcing law on U.S. soil. They can only provide logistical support to the border protection agents.

So Trump assertion about them shooting anyone throwing rocks is just bullshit anyway. Much like this entire endeavor is for show.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Ah, the ol' create racism where there is none leftist deflection defense. A real staple of the leftist arsenal today.

I'm not going racism but I wonder about this "well-regulated militia" thing. Per the report the greatest threat of wrongdoing isn't the Caravan but militias going after US military equipment. Seems like these self-deluded "well regulated" militias in question should land in prison.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I'm wondering if anyone else has looked into the units that are actually being deployed? They are all logistical/support units. There are no combat units which makes sense since the Posse Comitatus Act prevents US troops from enforcing law on U.S. soil. They can only provide logistical support to the border protection agents.

So Trump assertion about them shooting anyone throwing rocks is just bullshit anyway. Much like this entire endeavor is for show.

Trump could order troops to shoot if "fired" upon with rocks. In that case anyone who does is subject to criminal penalty under the UCMJ and Trump would be as well as he'd be breaking the established laws and abetting a crime. Wouldn't that look lovely in the House come January?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Trump could order troops to shoot if "fired" upon with rocks. In that case anyone who does is subject to criminal penalty under the UCMJ and Trump would be as well as he'd be breaking the established laws and abetting a crime. Wouldn't that look lovely in the House come January?

I doubt any CO would relay that unlawful order to the troops under their command.

 

[HomerJS]

Ah, the ol' create racism where there is none leftist deflection defense. A real staple of the leftist arsenal today.

You do Trump already set that precedent.. Shithole countries, people with AIDS vs good ole' white Norway

 

[VRAMdemon]

They actually seem more concerned with dipshit Minutemen and the like than the "caravan"

"Estimated 200 unregulated armed militia members currently operating along the southwest border. Reported incidents of unregulated militias stealing National Guard equipment during deployments. They operate under the guise of citizen patrols supporting Customs and Border Protection primarily between Points of Entry.

What, a pointless and expensive flexing of military might so the President can pose as a leader. They are 900 miles or so from Brownsville, TX. They'll be pounding on the gates by Monday. All the baby strollers must be slowing them down a bit.

At least the Army agrees with the rational among us and not the political gain pants wetting alarmists.

 

[Jhhnn]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

It's even spelled right.

If these modern "militias" are "well regulated", whose orders do they follow? Well, other than their own?

 

[shortylickens]

If these modern "militias" are "well regulated", whose orders do they follow? Well, other than their own?

"regulation" doesnt necessarily mean a higher authority. I know cuz I served for 9 years and sometimes we were well-regulated and sometimes we were well-led, but not always both.

 

[sandorski]

If these modern "militias" are "well regulated", whose orders do they follow? Well, other than their own?

They adhere to a strict BMR(Bowel Management Regimen)