Military action against Iran would backfire on Israel

[randomint]

i think so too. these idiots (neocons and israeli hawks) can't think straight because there's only one thing that they are able to see when they are awake or asleep: bombs. that's the only solution in their eyes for everything related to the middle-east.

well guess what? iran's got conventional weapons as well and knowing the size of Israel, pretty much anything you throw at them in that general direction, you know it's gonna hurt. imagine what targeted ballistic missiles can do to israeli cities.

as for iran's nuclear program (weapons or otherwise), it's only going to be delayed for a while, nothing more. even these idiots know that but the war fever has completely clouded their senses.

Military action against Iran would backfire on Israel, report warns
By Anne Penketh, Diplomatic Editor
Published: 12 March 2007

Military action against Iran would backfire against Israel, which in turn would face "dire and far-reaching" consequences, a leading British foreign policy think-tank believes.

Chatham House says in a report that it is "widely assumed" that preparations are "well under way" in both America and Israel for military action against targets related to Iran's nuclear programme. The report by Yossi Mekelberg examines the possible responses by Iran, which may retaliate with massive ballistic missile attacks on Israeli cities such as Tel Aviv or Haifa, resulting in "substantial loss of life".

Israel's relations with moderate Arab states would also be harmed, as any military attack would be seen as an offensive against the Muslim world and would fuel Islamic extremism.

"An Israeli military operation against Iran would hurt Israel's long-term interests. It would be detrimental to Israel's overall security and the political and economic consequences would be dire and far-reaching," the report warns.

Israel says the issue of curbing Iran's suspected nuclear weapons programme is a problem for the international community. But it has been made clear by the Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, that if the international community failed to prevent Iran from obtaining a weapon, Israel would take the steps to do so.

While the report describes such a possibility as remote, it says that if diplomatic efforts fail, "the US and Israel would feel that force is justified and might act militarily either together or separately, regardless of international consent. This could have disastrous consequences."

Mr Mekelberg concurs with other analysts who have warned that military action against Iran could provoke fallout against US forces in Iraq. And like previous studies, the report points out that any attack would be unlikely to halt Iran's nuclear programme, and would only delay it "for a while."

The report concludes that international efforts should continue to focus on diplomatic and economic sanctions that could persuade the Iranian authorities to comply with UN demands. The report argues that Israel could consider open deterrence by coming clean on its nuclear arsenal as an alternative to military action, an option the Israelis are unlikely to contemplate.

The UN Security Council is calling on Iran to halt uranium enrichment - which can produce fuel for a nuclear weapon - in return for negotiations. But Iran, which says its intentions are peaceful, defied a deadline which passed last month, exposing Tehran to expanded sanctions.

Iranian state-run television said that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wanted to brief the UN Security Council about his country's nuclear plans, but did not give further details.

 

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Iran has to worry about killing fellow muslims. Oh wait, I forgot, their a muslim state which means they have no compunction against killing other muslims. They can just blame the zionist pigs as they call Jews for the muslims being killed.

Iran versus Israel, money on the Israel please. Israel might take some lumps but the first biological launched at them means Iran will be glowing from one end to the other.


Just like Iraq was going to throw us back into the sea... oh yeah... you think any major power is going to sell Middle Eastern powers enough arms to push one of them back?

 

[Genx87]

I think people dismiss Israels position way too easily. Imagine if you have a neighbor who has been telling you how he is planning on bulldozing your house down and pushing you from your land.

Then you watch as he purchases the bulldozer and hired help to do it. Do you simply sit there and take it or do something to stop his ability to carry out his promises?

You arent dealing with sane people here. The people leading Iran dont care about their people, so I can gurantee you they dont care about Israel's population or the world as a whole.

Remember in 1981 Israel knocked out Saddams nuke plant. They never recovered. If they didnt do so there could have been a possibility of them using nukes on the Iranians or coalition troops in 1992.

The result is Israels action saved thousand possibly over millions of people's lives. I say millions because if Saddam nuked our troops formations we would have lit up his cities like Christmas tree's. They were prepared to use nukes if he unleashed chemical weapons.

 

[randomint]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I think people dismiss Israels position way too easily. Imagine if you have a neighbor who has been telling you how he is planning on bulldozing your house down and pushing you from your land.

Then you watch as he purchases the bulldozer and hired help to do it. Do you simply sit there and take it or do something to stop his ability to carry out his promises?

You arent dealing with sane people here. The people leading Iran dont care about their people, so I can gurantee you they dont care about Israel's population or the world as a whole.

Remember in 1981 Israel knocked out Saddams nuke plant. They never recovered. If they didnt do so there could have been a possibility of them using nukes on the Iranians or coalition troops in 1992.

The result is Israels action saved thousand possibly over millions of people's lives. I say millions because if Saddam nuked our troops formations we would have lit up his cities like Christmas tree's. They were prepared to use nukes if he unleashed chemical weapons.

i think the situation is a little different this time around in that iran is nowhere nearly as divided a country as iraq mainly because it has a majority shia population who ar enot only united but also very patriotic. also they are much more organized as an administration that iraq ever was. they have also not been crippled with years of sanctions. their leaders unlike iraq's have not spent the last decade or so with eating away the nation's wealth and enjoying life. they also have a military that is functioning and ready to say the least.

as we found out, iraq pretty much didn't have anything when this war happened. it's fighter jets were grounded and in disrepair. it's military was a shadow of its former self. the same cannot be said of iran.

i'm not saying that iran is more powerful than israel. quite the contrary in fact. israel is much more powerful. but the thing is that they have never experienced casualties on a massive scale. it simply has never happened before. this time around, the iranians are going to take down a few israelis with them if israel attacks.

and as we saw with the war with hezbollah. when israel begins to take casualties, the paper-tiger image pretty much starts to shed.

 

[Narmer]

Nobody in the ME wants Israel around and Iran is no exception. But if the Israelis want a fight with the Persians, let them get on with it.

As we've all seen, America won the battle for Iraq but is losing the eventual war, on every aspect. Soon, her citizens will tell her to pull out and all that money and lives would've been wasted for nothing. The fools making their warplans and the keyboard warriors supporting them fail to remember that the Iraq war is STILL going on, four years later.

 

[piasabird]

Iran is gutless. The only reason the USA has not attacked Iran is the fact that they are sitting on a good percentage of the worlds oil supply. The world cares more about the oil than they do security. Money is more important than our soldier's blood.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I think people dismiss Israels position way too easily. Imagine if you have a neighbor who has been telling you how he is planning on bulldozing your house down and pushing you from your land.

Then you watch as he purchases the bulldozer and hired help to do it. Do you simply sit there and take it or do something to stop his ability to carry out his promises?

You arent dealing with sane people here. The people leading Iran dont care about their people, so I can gurantee you they dont care about Israel's population or the world as a whole.

Remember in 1981 Israel knocked out Saddams nuke plant. They never recovered. If they didnt do so there could have been a possibility of them using nukes on the Iranians or coalition troops in 1992.

The result is Israels action saved thousand possibly over millions of people's lives. I say millions because if Saddam nuked our troops formations we would have lit up his cities like Christmas tree's. They were prepared to use nukes if he unleashed chemical weapons.

Nice analogy. Now who is it that uses bulldozers to plow under Palestinian homes?

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Iran is gutless. The only reason the USA has not attacked Iran is the fact that they are sitting on a good percentage of the worlds oil supply. The world cares more about the oil than they do security. Money is more important than our soldier's blood.

That doesn't make any sense. Are you saying that to make our soldier's blood more important, we should willingly spill it? Are you a neocon?

 

[randomint]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Nice analogy. Now who is it that uses bulldozers to plow under Palestinian homes?

i don't know if he failed to see the irony or do ALL of israel's actions appear completely legitimate to him. :disgust:

demonizing iran is th eonly way to sway global public opinion. they are trying their utmost to do that when in fact it has been proven that the iranian president never said anything about "wiping israel off the map". i think the man is pretty darn sane and faithful to his people and his country's interests not to mention much more educated than the retard in the whitehouse who's gone apesh|t.

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Iran is gutless. The only reason the USA has not attacked Iran is the fact that they are sitting on a good percentage of the worlds oil supply. The world cares more about the oil than they do security. Money is more important than our soldier's blood.

I saw this news report on abc last night about all the injuries. People with brain injuries, missing arms, missing legs (in some cases both arms and legs are missing), psychological problems etc... So my question is, why do you hate Americans so much?