Mila Kunis: If you're not losing weight, you must not want to

[actuarial]

BMI wants everyone to be anorexic

it is just a very general guide line, it doesn't take several important factors into account. Ratio such as muscle/fat, torso/leg length, ethnicity,climate, etc.

Yeah I'm not basing me need to lose weight on the BMI scale, but seeing the 'overweight' label did give me the emotional push to really do something.

 

[LookBehindYou]

No time is definitely an excuse, not a reason. Especially when people whine that they work 8-5 or whatever. When I was in the military working a flight schedule, my shift consisted of 6:00AM to 6:00PM. This meant I had to be on duty ready to go by 6, so I was up at 3:30, in order to get armed up by 4:45, so i can make my 5:00 guardmount, so we can be briefed and on post by 6:00. It worked backwards when I got off too. Basically I was at work from 4:45 until about 7:00 at night. And guess what? I still managed to find 30 minutes a day to get a quick run or excercise in.

No time is an excuse, and anyone who says it's a reason is only hurting themselves and proving my point. Unless you are working an 18 hour day, I don't want to hear it.

And yes, diet makes a huge difference too. You really don't even need to measure your food and all that. Just make smarter choices. That's all my wife and I did. I splurge every now and then, but I generally eat less, and go lower fat lower calories when possible.

This country is so full of people that don't want to put any effort into anything they do it's rediculous.

 

[Fritzo]

Anyone can lose the weight if they eat less. Exercise is optional. The main problem is that everyone is too lazy to carry a kitchen scale to dinner like me and weigh all their food to calculate calories. Get your scale now fatties! I will even ship it (brand new in box, nice one) to you for $40 Paypal! Send me a PM!

That's actually not true. If you work a desk job, you're pretty sedentary for most of the day. You would have to knock your intake down to the 1200 calorie range in order to drop any pounds. At that level, you would need to eat 4 300 calorie meals a day to keep your body from going into starvation mode.

Try doing that for a few days and let me know how you feel. You won't be happy (or very functional).

A better plan to lose weight is to go to 1800-2000 calories a day of protein, grains, and complex carbs. Eat 4-6 times a day, with your morning meals being the largest. It's also important to take a daily multivitamin with B complexes to keep your metabolism kick started.

Completely cut out processed foods and sodium (which makes you retain water), and do some sort of exercise in the evening hours that makes you breathe at a moderate rate for 20-30 minutes 4-5 times a week. 2000 calories is a decent amount if you eat the right foods, and you'll be much more functional.

With this plan you should drop 5-7 lbs in the first week, and then 1-2 lbs in each week after. (The first week you'll notice you're peeing a lot because you'll lose all the water retention weight).

 

[Josh]

The whole BS about Mila has a "privileged" life...first, she didn't just automatically become a superstar. She worked, and acting can consist of LONG days. Not only that, you have to do press junkets, travel TONS to all different states/countries promoting movies, yourself - so it's not like she just sits on her ass all day, everyday with unlimited time.

She might actually have a more difficult time working out than people working the 9-5 - that's a scheduled life where you SHOULD be able to find a time everyday or every other day to workout being that you know your schedule. Mila may not know when the hell she's gonna have free time tomorrow because she might have to hop a flight to New York from California and as soon as she lands have meetings, interviews, etc and by that time most lazy asses would order up some room service and a cocktail and lay on their hotel bed...but she's trying to say that she will still make it in the gym because dedication = success.

STOP BEING FUCKING LAZY. THAT'S IT.

 

[Macamus Prime]

Americans are a joke when it comes to health and food. We have:
1) scam artists cooking up new fad diet/programs every day
2) snake oil drugs that do more harm than good - or, usually do nothing
3) dangerously overweight people who are "accepted" by society
4) said dangerously overweight people strain our healthcare systems
5) dangerous surgical operations that defy the natural design of the body (stomach staples, lypo, etc)
6) stupid shows like "The Biggest Loser" that are just glorified scam fad diet/programs
7) awful food processing practices; load it up with additives and chemicals
8) a terrible "ah do wut ah want" mentality/attitude, which leads to people becoming fat asses
9) laws that require it be spelled out that you are eating things that may end up harming you
10) disgusting "contests" where people eat food and then throw it all up

With all of this, and no signs that any of them are the one true answer to being healthy and slim, it does indeed come down to you.

The person has to want to be healthy and slim. Now, there may very well be something going on that hinders their pursuit of being healthy (mental disorder), but, even then - figure out what wrong with your head and your body will follow in getting better and healthy.

Americans have NO respect for food. You treat food as a toy. Or something to do.

Food is required to survive - it should only go past that on a few occasions; wedding, party, celebration, etc. You should not be over eating or taking too much of one ingredient 4 to 5 times a day.

God, this country can't even get something as simple as eating even right,…

 

[SP33Demon]

That's actually not true. If you work a desk job, you're pretty sedentary for most of the day. You would have to knock your intake down to the 1200 calorie range in order to drop any pounds. At that level, you would need to eat 4 300 calorie meals a day to keep your body from going into starvation mode.

Try doing that for a few days and let me know how you feel. You won't be happy (or very functional).

A better plan to lose weight is to go to 1800-2000 calories a day of protein, grains, and complex carbs. Eat 4-6 times a day, with your morning meals being the largest. It's also important to take a daily multivitamin with B complexes to keep your metabolism kick started.

Completely cut out processed foods and sodium (which makes you retain water), and do some sort of exercise in the evening hours that makes you breathe at a moderate rate for 20-30 minutes 4-5 times a week. 2000 calories is a decent amount if you eat the right foods, and you'll be much more functional.

With this plan you should drop 5-7 lbs in the first week, and then 1-2 lbs in each week after. (The first week you'll notice you're peeing a lot because you'll lose all the water retention weight).

Of course you won't be happy at 1200 unless you're a woman. Most grown mens' BMR is in the 1500-1900 range. Drop down to 1500-1600 a day and tell me how much you lose. The further you go under BMR, the more your body will have to compensate from fat stores.

Someone must want a new kitchen scale? Paypal me $40, I ship anywhere in the US.

 

[Beev]

People blaming their lack of motivation or whatever on having kids need to gtf-over it. Blame them all you want, you knew the downsides (there are many) to having kids, but you did it anyway. Either suck it up and accept the unhealthier lifestyle, or do something about it.

 

[Stuxnet]

You don't need to work out to lose weight. Diet is 90% of weight loss.

Is that your definition of balance?

Anyone who thinks 90% of weight loss is diet, or who thinks 90% of weight loss is exercise, has no business giving weight loss advice to anyone.

Successful, sustainable weight loss cannot be achieved, by most people, through a single vector.

 

[Josh]

Is that your definition of balance?

Anyone who thinks 90% of weight loss is diet, or who thinks 90% of weight loss is exercise, has no business giving weight loss advice to anyone.

Successful, sustainable weight loss cannot be achieved, by most people, through a single vector.

I'll say that nutrition does play a huge role (I'm not saying 90%). Of course, exercising is needed as well, but nutrition def is a big part. You can eat like shit and workout all you want but you won't get the results you desire without having a correct nutritional plan for your specific goal.

 

[Stuxnet]

People blaming their lack of motivation or whatever on having kids need to gtf-over it. Blame them all you want, you knew the downsides (there are many) to having kids, but you did it anyway. Either suck it up and accept the unhealthier lifestyle, or do something about it.

No one said they were surprised by the changes brought on by having kids you dipshit, they're saying it's a big obstacle to maintaining a healthy lifestyle. That's a fact, fool.

Grow up.

 

[Fritzo]

People blaming their lack of motivation or whatever on having kids need to gtf-over it. Blame them all you want, you knew the downsides (there are many) to having kids, but you did it anyway. Either suck it up and accept the unhealthier lifestyle, or do something about it.

Ah, the "I'm in my early 20's and am having too much fun to think about kids" post. Come back and see us in 10 years.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

thats my attitude in general to pretty much everything, esp addiction. what you want is defined by what you do.

 

[Stuxnet]

Actually, I'll say that nutrition does play a huge role (I'm not saying 90%). Of course, exercising is needed as well, but nutrition def is a big part. You can eat like shit and workout all you want but you won't get the results you desire without having a correct nutritional plan for your specific goal.

What part of "balance" is confusing? Of course nutrition plays a huge role. Nutrition and exercise go hand in hand; marginalizing one diminishes the returns of the other. That's my entire point.

 

[PricklyPete]

I'm not in my 20's...I'm headed toward my mid 30's and I agree with her.

 

[purbeast0]

While there is a great deal of truth to this (some overweight people would rather make excuses than do something about it), it is also easier for her to say because she has time to do it and probably a personal trainer to help her. For more normal people who may have to work and commute 12 hours a day, and then go home and fulfill familial responsibilities, it may be considerably more difficult. I usually manage to fit a half hour workout into my schedule (split between weights and running), but if I want to sleep at least 6 hours and still have some time to spend with my family, I probably couldn't do much more, other than on weekends, and even then only in the mornings before everyone gets up and all the schedules kick in.

stop making excuses again.

you can lose tons of weight with just diet alone. losing weight is like 80% diet and 20% working out. working out just helps you burn more calories, as well as stimulate muscle growth and help cardiovascular.

so yea again, you are simply making excuses.

 

[Beev]

No one said they were surprised by the changes brought on by having kids you dipshit, they're saying it's a big obstacle to maintaining a healthy lifestyle. That's a fact, fool.

Grow up.

Where did I say anything about anyone being surprised? I'm the dipshit, but you can barely read apparently? I said it's a terrible "excuse."

Ah, the "I'm in my early 20's and am having too much fun to think about kids" post. Come back and see us in 10 years.

Turning 30 soon . Never, ever wanted kids. Can't wait for the "derp good never procreate lol I'm so clever derp" posts... I've thought about it plenty. Lots of full grown adults don't want/like/need kids.

I love the parents that reply as if I've made a personal attack against them. Hilarious.

 

[LookBehindYou]

I'm 31, married, have a kid who plays sports, and I go to school on top of a full time job. I agree with Beev, you know what you're getting into. And to be honest, kids and jobs are just bs excuses used instead of people just saying "hey, I'm a lazy fat fuck, and it's because I don't care about myself"

 

[Saint Nick]

Turning 30 soon . Never, ever wanted kids. Can't wait for the "derp good never procreate lol I'm so clever derp" posts... I've thought about it plenty. Lots of full grown adults don't want/like/need kids.

I love the parents that reply as if I've made a personal attack against them. Hilarious.

Heh, I'm closing in on 25 and I'm certain I don't want kids. Why do people take offense when we tell others? It's just a personal preference people, sheesh.

 

[SP33Demon]

Successful, sustainable weight loss cannot be achieved, by most people, through a single vector.

Wrong, you could easily eat the same balanced meal everyday that is slightly under BMR and lose weight and it would stay off. You don't need to exercise, it is optional and of course you would be healthier (better blood flow, stronger heart, faster metabolism from more muscle). But exercise is optional and weight loss can absolutely be achieved "through a single vector".

 

[Fritzo]

Where did I say anything about anyone being surprised? I'm the dipshit, but you can barely read apparently? I said it's a terrible "excuse."



Turning 30 soon . Never, ever wanted kids. Can't wait for the "derp good never procreate lol I'm so clever derp" posts... I've thought about it plenty. Lots of full grown adults don't want/like/need kids.

I love the parents that reply as if I've made a personal attack against them. Hilarious.

BTW- as a social thing, anyone over 18 that says "derp" should be able to be legally punched in the neck.

 

[Stuxnet]

Where did I say anything about anyone being surprised? I'm the dipshit, but you can barely read apparently? I said it's a terrible "excuse."

It's not a terrible excuse at all for those who want kids. No one is criticizing you for wanting kids, we're criticizing you for attacking a situation you admittedly know absolutely nothing about. Ignorant, arrogant. Period.

Having children was very important to me, and so is my health. There is a constant battle of time between the two. That doesn't make one or the either a bad decision; it just makes life challenging for me and people in my situation.

But please... continue armchair quarterbacking something you know nothing about. It's amusing. For now.

Lots of full grown adults don't want/like/need kids.

Again, no one has criticized you for this. Make your point. Scratch that... figure out your point, then try to make it.

 

[Stuxnet]

Wrong, you could easily eat the same balanced meal everyday that is slightly under BMR and lose weight and it would stay off. You don't need to exercise, it is optional and of course you would be healthier (better blood flow, stronger heart, faster metabolism from more muscle). But exercise is optional and weight loss can absolutely be achieved "through a single vector".

That's not practical for someone who's obese. That would take an eternity, and people who try that approach often give up because they don't see results quickly enough. That's why I said what I said.

 

[Stuxnet]

I'm 31, married, have a kid who plays sports, and I go to school on top of a full time job. I agree with Beev, you know what you're getting into. And to be honest, kids and jobs are just bs excuses used instead of people just saying "hey, I'm a lazy fat fuck, and it's because I don't care about myself"

I'm not a fat lazy fuck and I'm in the exact same situation as you (with an added child), and it's pretty difficult making it all work. It's not a matter of "knowing what you got into," it's just simply a matter of making it work. No shit we knew what we got into... what does that have to do with anything?

You seem to have the magic answer that's lost on a lot of other parents who's fitness is also important to them. How much real quality time are you able to spend with your kid? Your wife?

Seriously, what's your schedule? Work (include your type of job), kids, school, exercise, sleep. Something's getting shorted somewhere (there's only 24 hours in a day), I'd love to see what it is.

 

[NFS4]

One must ask, what is America's lardass to normal people ratio compared to other countries?

On a side note, my wife and I took a trip to NYC last year for our one-year anniversary and I noticed something -- I didn't see many lardasses in the city. Maybe it was just a fluke during the time we were there, but compared to back home in NC it was like night and day.

My assumption was that most people have to walk everywhere, so they get more exercise.

 

[Beev]

Having children was very important to me, and so is my health. There is a constant battle of time between the two.

This points out, exactly, how my post wasn't even directed at you. You're doing what you can, because you want to. I'm talking about fat moms who try to pretend they have valid reasons for being fat. They don't. No one does.

Again, no one has criticized you for this. Make your point. Scratch that... figure out your point, then try to make it.

Psst, I was replying to two different posts, and I wasn't defending, or attacking any choices.