Might be a silly question but I need some advice

jjzelinski

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I'm toying around with my Hitachi 42pd9500 42" Plasma and I have it connected to my PC via DVI to HDMI. I'm trying to find out what the best way is to watch HD content (trailers, MS promos for instance) using this combination while ensuring I'm getting the best picture quality out of the TV. My video card is an ATI 1950XT utilizing the latest drivers on Vista 64. Thanks for your help!
 

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Originally posted by: jjzelinski
I'm trying to find out what the best way is to watch HD content (trailers, MS promos for instance)

Have you tried sitting down? What about standing up? I don't know. I usually sit down. I can't tell the difference but it sure gets tiring standing up after a while.
 

Quasmo

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That plasma Tv is a 1080P Plasma. Why would you feed it a 1080i signal. Are you asking about 1080i content on a 1080P television, because your computer will deinterlace the footage before it is displayed.
 

jjzelinski

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Originally posted by: Quasmo
That plasma Tv is a 1080P Plasma. Why would you feed it a 1080i signal. Are you asking about 1080i content on a 1080P television, because your computer will deinterlace the footage before it is displayed.

Actually I had read in the manual that it was 1080i, if it's 1080p that would be a pleasant surprise :)

Originally posted by: Chosonman

Have you tried sitting down? What about standing up? I don't know. I usually sit down. I can't tell the difference but it sure gets tiring standing up after a while.

Wise guy huh? :)
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: Quasmo
That plasma Tv is a 1080P Plasma. Why would you feed it a 1080i signal. Are you asking about 1080i content on a 1080P television, because your computer will deinterlace the footage before it is displayed.

It's not a 1080p plasma. The Hitachi plasmas are 1280 x 1080ish. They don't have the horizontal resolution of 1080p.

I would feed the TV 1080p if possible, otherwise 1080i would be my next best option.
 

Quasmo

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Quasmo
That plasma Tv is a 1080P Plasma. Why would you feed it a 1080i signal. Are you asking about 1080i content on a 1080P television, because your computer will deinterlace the footage before it is displayed.

It's not a 1080p plasma. The Hitachi plasmas are 1280 x 1080ish. They don't have the horizontal resolution of 1080p.

I would feed the TV 1080p if possible, otherwise 1080i would be my next best option.

Google I can't seem to find information otherwise.
 

LS21

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i have 1080i 42" panasonic plasma, native resolution of 1024x768 (non-square pixel, non 1:1 pixel mapping)

i found that generally setting output computer on 720p (1280x720) got the best results

obviously its not the greatest setup for text and whatever...but just for playing movies its good enough
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: Quasmo
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Quasmo
That plasma Tv is a 1080P Plasma. Why would you feed it a 1080i signal. Are you asking about 1080i content on a 1080P television, because your computer will deinterlace the footage before it is displayed.

It's not a 1080p plasma. The Hitachi plasmas are 1280 x 1080ish. They don't have the horizontal resolution of 1080p.

I would feed the TV 1080p if possible, otherwise 1080i would be my next best option.

Google I can't seem to find information otherwise.

My bad I took the OP's word for it as Hitachi DOES have advertised "1080i" plasmas
 

TheAdvocate

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Originally posted by: LS21
i have 1080i 42" panasonic plasma, native resolution of 1024x768 (non-square pixel, non 1:1 pixel mapping)

i found that generally setting output computer on 720p (1280x720) got the best results

obviously its not the greatest setup for text and whatever...but just for playing movies its good enough

That is not a "1080i" plasma. It is a 1024x768 plasma. Your TV is measured by its display resolution, not whatever feed it can take and then scale/de-interlace.

It's been almost 2 years that this mistake has appeared on this forum. You'd think it would sink in after a while. Ghosts of all those idiots who got mad because their 1920x1080 LCDTV wasn't "1080p". :groan:
 

jjzelinski

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Quasmo
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Quasmo
That plasma Tv is a 1080P Plasma. Why would you feed it a 1080i signal. Are you asking about 1080i content on a 1080P television, because your computer will deinterlace the footage before it is displayed.

It's not a 1080p plasma. The Hitachi plasmas are 1280 x 1080ish. They don't have the horizontal resolution of 1080p.

I would feed the TV 1080p if possible, otherwise 1080i would be my next best option.

Google I can't seem to find information otherwise.

My bad I took the OP's word for it as Hitachi DOES have advertised "1080i" plasmas

I'm confident the TV is 1080i regardless how some vendors might be advertising it. I don't see why Hitachi would needlessly sell themselves short in their own manual :)

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate
Originally posted by: LS21
i have 1080i 42" panasonic plasma, native resolution of 1024x768 (non-square pixel, non 1:1 pixel mapping)

i found that generally setting output computer on 720p (1280x720) got the best results

obviously its not the greatest setup for text and whatever...but just for playing movies its good enough

That is not a "1080i" plasma. It is a 1024x768 plasma. Your TV is measured by its display resolution, not whatever feed it can take and then scale/de-interlace.

It's been almost 2 years that this mistake has appeared on this forum. You'd think it would sink in after a while. Ghosts of all those idiots who got mad because their 1920x1080 LCDTV wasn't "1080p". :groan:

Hate to sound think but you we referring to LS about the "not a 1080i" product, right? Unless you're simply making the effort to illustrate a proper reference for resolution of 1080i but I thought that was 1920*1080... Can't believe this is as hard to grasp as it is, sorry :)
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Quasmo
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Quasmo
That plasma Tv is a 1080P Plasma. Why would you feed it a 1080i signal. Are you asking about 1080i content on a 1080P television, because your computer will deinterlace the footage before it is displayed.

It's not a 1080p plasma. The Hitachi plasmas are 1280 x 1080ish. They don't have the horizontal resolution of 1080p.

I would feed the TV 1080p if possible, otherwise 1080i would be my next best option.

Google I can't seem to find information otherwise.

My bad I took the OP's word for it as Hitachi DOES have advertised "1080i" plasmas

I'm confident the TV is 1080i regardless how some vendors might be advertising it. I don't see why Hitachi would needlessly sell themselves short in their own manual :)

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate
Originally posted by: LS21
i have 1080i 42" panasonic plasma, native resolution of 1024x768 (non-square pixel, non 1:1 pixel mapping)

i found that generally setting output computer on 720p (1280x720) got the best results

obviously its not the greatest setup for text and whatever...but just for playing movies its good enough

That is not a "1080i" plasma. It is a 1024x768 plasma. Your TV is measured by its display resolution, not whatever feed it can take and then scale/de-interlace.

It's been almost 2 years that this mistake has appeared on this forum. You'd think it would sink in after a while. Ghosts of all those idiots who got mad because their 1920x1080 LCDTV wasn't "1080p". :groan:

Hate to sound think but you we referring to LS about the "not a 1080i" product, right? Unless you're simply making the effort to illustrate a proper reference for resolution of 1080i but I thought that was 1920*1080... Can't believe this is as hard to grasp as it is, sorry :)

Every site on the net for that TV states that its resolution is 1920 x 1080 = 1080p

Unless you gave us the wrong model number. If Hitachi 42PD9500 is correct then it is a 1080p model.
 

TheAdvocate

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Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Quasmo
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Quasmo
That plasma Tv is a 1080P Plasma. Why would you feed it a 1080i signal. Are you asking about 1080i content on a 1080P television, because your computer will deinterlace the footage before it is displayed.

It's not a 1080p plasma. The Hitachi plasmas are 1280 x 1080ish. They don't have the horizontal resolution of 1080p.

I would feed the TV 1080p if possible, otherwise 1080i would be my next best option.

Google I can't seem to find information otherwise.

My bad I took the OP's word for it as Hitachi DOES have advertised "1080i" plasmas

I'm confident the TV is 1080i regardless how some vendors might be advertising it. I don't see why Hitachi would needlessly sell themselves short in their own manual :)

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate
Originally posted by: LS21
i have 1080i 42" panasonic plasma, native resolution of 1024x768 (non-square pixel, non 1:1 pixel mapping)

i found that generally setting output computer on 720p (1280x720) got the best results

obviously its not the greatest setup for text and whatever...but just for playing movies its good enough

That is not a "1080i" plasma. It is a 1024x768 plasma. Your TV is measured by its display resolution, not whatever feed it can take and then scale/de-interlace.

It's been almost 2 years that this mistake has appeared on this forum. You'd think it would sink in after a while. Ghosts of all those idiots who got mad because their 1920x1080 LCDTV wasn't "1080p". :groan:

Hate to sound think but you we referring to LS about the "not a 1080i" product, right? Unless you're simply making the effort to illustrate a proper reference for resolution of 1080i but I thought that was 1920*1080... Can't believe this is as hard to grasp as it is, sorry :)

I was talking about the panasonic model, not the hitachi. My point was, the TVs actual display resolution is what "kind of tv" it is, not it's input capability.

I bought a Toshiba 42HL196 which IS a "FULLHD" TV, as the native resolution is 1920x1080. Then I watched AVS forum blow up when a few of the people who bought it found out that it did not take a 1080p24 feed, and was limited to either 1080i60 or 720p24. Nevermind that it has nothing to do with the display resolution of the set. I also have a smaller Samsung LCD with a 1366x768 resolution. It's not a "1080i" TV just because it can and does scale and deinterlace that signal before displaying it as a 1366x768 picture. It's a 1366x768 TV,a nd FWIW, I tend to feed it a 720p signal. Looks just fine.
 

LS21

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i know what the tv is and what its not. this argument is more semantical than anything. however, being as it is, its input handling does make it "what it is". its a matter of convention/consistency. all those that can handle 1080i is labeled and marketed as 1080i (despite true native resolution). your 1366x768 is not a "1366x768 tv".
 

jjzelinski

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Quasmo
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Quasmo
That plasma Tv is a 1080P Plasma. Why would you feed it a 1080i signal. Are you asking about 1080i content on a 1080P television, because your computer will deinterlace the footage before it is displayed.

It's not a 1080p plasma. The Hitachi plasmas are 1280 x 1080ish. They don't have the horizontal resolution of 1080p.

I would feed the TV 1080p if possible, otherwise 1080i would be my next best option.

Google I can't seem to find information otherwise.

My bad I took the OP's word for it as Hitachi DOES have advertised "1080i" plasmas

I'm confident the TV is 1080i regardless how some vendors might be advertising it. I don't see why Hitachi would needlessly sell themselves short in their own manual :)

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate
Originally posted by: LS21
i have 1080i 42" panasonic plasma, native resolution of 1024x768 (non-square pixel, non 1:1 pixel mapping)

i found that generally setting output computer on 720p (1280x720) got the best results

obviously its not the greatest setup for text and whatever...but just for playing movies its good enough

That is not a "1080i" plasma. It is a 1024x768 plasma. Your TV is measured by its display resolution, not whatever feed it can take and then scale/de-interlace.

It's been almost 2 years that this mistake has appeared on this forum. You'd think it would sink in after a while. Ghosts of all those idiots who got mad because their 1920x1080 LCDTV wasn't "1080p". :groan:

Hate to sound think but you we referring to LS about the "not a 1080i" product, right? Unless you're simply making the effort to illustrate a proper reference for resolution of 1080i but I thought that was 1920*1080... Can't believe this is as hard to grasp as it is, sorry :)

Every site on the net for that TV states that its resolution is 1920 x 1080 = 1080p

Unless you gave us the wrong model number. If Hitachi 42PD9500 is correct then it is a 1080p model.

I thought 1080 was 1920*1080, just interlaced... or am I entirely missing the point?
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Quasmo
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Quasmo
That plasma Tv is a 1080P Plasma. Why would you feed it a 1080i signal. Are you asking about 1080i content on a 1080P television, because your computer will deinterlace the footage before it is displayed.

It's not a 1080p plasma. The Hitachi plasmas are 1280 x 1080ish. They don't have the horizontal resolution of 1080p.

I would feed the TV 1080p if possible, otherwise 1080i would be my next best option.

Google I can't seem to find information otherwise.

My bad I took the OP's word for it as Hitachi DOES have advertised "1080i" plasmas

I'm confident the TV is 1080i regardless how some vendors might be advertising it. I don't see why Hitachi would needlessly sell themselves short in their own manual :)

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate
Originally posted by: LS21
i have 1080i 42" panasonic plasma, native resolution of 1024x768 (non-square pixel, non 1:1 pixel mapping)

i found that generally setting output computer on 720p (1280x720) got the best results

obviously its not the greatest setup for text and whatever...but just for playing movies its good enough

That is not a "1080i" plasma. It is a 1024x768 plasma. Your TV is measured by its display resolution, not whatever feed it can take and then scale/de-interlace.

It's been almost 2 years that this mistake has appeared on this forum. You'd think it would sink in after a while. Ghosts of all those idiots who got mad because their 1920x1080 LCDTV wasn't "1080p". :groan:

Hate to sound think but you we referring to LS about the "not a 1080i" product, right? Unless you're simply making the effort to illustrate a proper reference for resolution of 1080i but I thought that was 1920*1080... Can't believe this is as hard to grasp as it is, sorry :)

Every site on the net for that TV states that its resolution is 1920 x 1080 = 1080p

Unless you gave us the wrong model number. If Hitachi 42PD9500 is correct then it is a 1080p model.

I thought 1080 was 1920*1080, just interlaced... or am I entirely missing the point?

No fixed pixel displays out today are interlaced. They are all progressive. Therefore if you have a 1920 x 1080 Plasma or LCD display it is 1080p.
 

TheAdvocate

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Originally posted by: LS21
i know what the tv is and what its not. this argument is more semantical than anything. however, being as it is, its input handling does make it "what it is". its a matter of convention/consistency. all those that can handle 1080i is labeled and marketed as 1080i (despite true native resolution). your 1366x768 is not a "1366x768 tv".

The hell it isn't. Text
 

LS21

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Originally posted by: TheAdvocate


The hell it isn't. Text

and one retailer displaying 768p does make a case. the fact is there is no 768p standard. walk in a store and ask for a 768p tv and noone will show it to you. you cant find a player machine that outputs at "768p". since we're in the context of industry and marketing standards, you lose
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: LS21
Originally posted by: TheAdvocate


The hell it isn't. Text

and one retailer displaying 768p does make a case. the fact is there is no 768p standard. walk in a store and ask for a 768p tv and noone will show it to you. you cant find a player machine that outputs at "768p". since we're in the context of industry and marketing standards, you lose

Sure I can. Both a PC and a XBOX 360 will output 768p. The TV will then not have to scale these signals vertically.

 

LS21

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Sure I can. Both a PC and a XBOX 360 will output 768p. The TV will then not have to scale these signals vertically.

a PC can output a shitload of resolutions. we're talking dvd players, av receivers, satellite boxes, etc to keep in c0ntext
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: LS21
Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Sure I can. Both a PC and a XBOX 360 will output 768p. The TV will then not have to scale these signals vertically.

a PC can output a shitload of resolutions. we're talking dvd players, av receivers, satellite boxes, etc to keep in c0ntext

What about the XBOX 360? Just want to ignore that? That's a DVD player...

You are wrong. A TV is not judged by the resolutions it can accept as inputs. It is judged typically as the number of max vertical scanning lines and then often rounded to the nearest standard.

i.e. TV's with a 1366 x 768 resolution are marketed as 720p. TV's with a 1920 x 1080 resolution are marketed as 1080i.

There are gobs of TV's out there that are 1366 x 768 and accept 1080i input. However, these TV's will not be advertised as a 1080i TV because a TV is judged on the resolution of its screen not the input formats it will accept.

And to further show you how wrong you are:

http://www2.panasonic.com/cons...02_7000000000000005702

There it is...a 720p TV that can accept a 1080p input. Are you going to claim this should be marketed as a 1080p TV?