Middle school to give out birth control pills

[purbeast0]

what the hell who's bright idea was it to come up with this crap?

and people "under 15 years old" incorporates 2 years of highschool kids there.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I am sure if you looked up the Kinsey Reports you'd find that the average age or percentage of students experimenting has not changed much at all in 60 years.

Ding ding ding... people keep thinking this has changed. Its called NATURE. Just because you say don;t do it will not help, check all the red states that have had ONLY adstiance programs and no birth control and see what happened to their rates.

People need to grow up and see that humans become sexual active in their early teens as that when their bodys say so. Humans use to only live to 30-40 years old so being married by 13-16 was not uncommon not so long ago.

you are right. nature has n ot changed. BUT i do think part of it is that kids are hitting puberty earlyer. I swear girls today are physicaly more mature then they were when i was 12. sure there was a one or two that were post puberty. but now it seems there are a few that ARE NOT.

Precocious puberty of course being a result of all the hormones our farmers are pumping into our foods. It's time we return to being an organic society.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I am sure if you looked up the Kinsey Reports you'd find that the average age or percentage of students experimenting has not changed much at all in 60 years.

i'd be interested in that report, but i'd be willing to bet there is more sex going on at a younger age now than 60 years ago.

Actually its less for some areas now. It has gone down the last decade or so.

well, we were talking 60 years ago, not 10.

Youth start sex at same age as their parents, grandparents did


All told, the mean age for sexual intercourse is 16.5 years, about where it's been since the sexual revolution that was launched by today's baby boomers.

i was looking for the middle school age kid's statistics. the article you linked wasn't really about this topic, and i agree with those findings anyway.

i still find it hard to fathom a 12 y/o having sex. i think i might've still been playing with Barbies then.

i do think more middle schoolers are having sex and television, movies, hollywood, the internet, has influenced that.

And your wrong and sound like some cheesy fauz news bit... TV, games, etc... are causing kids to...
Its the same on average. Difference is younger people are more likely to tell the truth today. Look at someone like Republican Sen Craig. he was caught picking up guys and there have been reports of him being gay. But his time period/age gay was evil almost like blacks and whites dating. If that happens now a day by someone young they will be more liekly to admit it as its not as much a taboo.
In Iran being gay can get you a death sentance. Does that mean there are no gay people since theor prez says there are none? No, they just can't admit it or live their lives they way they were born.

Same humans different culture.

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I am sure if you looked up the Kinsey Reports you'd find that the average age or percentage of students experimenting has not changed much at all in 60 years.

i'd be interested in that report, but i'd be willing to bet there is more sex going on at a younger age now than 60 years ago.

Actually its less for some areas now. It has gone down the last decade or so.

well, we were talking 60 years ago, not 10.

Youth start sex at same age as their parents, grandparents did


All told, the mean age for sexual intercourse is 16.5 years, about where it's been since the sexual revolution that was launched by today's baby boomers.

i was looking for the middle school age kid's statistics. the article you linked wasn't really about this topic, and i agree with those findings anyway.

i still find it hard to fathom a 12 y/o having sex. i think i might've still been playing with Barbies then.

i do think more middle schoolers are having sex and television, movies, hollywood, the internet, has influenced that.

Directly from Human Behavior in the Human Male, 1948, NOTE THAT THE NUMBERS ARE NOT CUMULATIVE.

13 years and less 13.8 %
14 years 14.0 %
15 years 11.0 %
16 years 12.8 %

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I'm more concerned about the effect the hormones will have on kids so young. Are there any studies on that?

:thumbsup:

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I am sure if you looked up the Kinsey Reports you'd find that the average age or percentage of students experimenting has not changed much at all in 60 years.

i'd be interested in that report, but i'd be willing to bet there is more sex going on at a younger age now than 60 years ago.

Actually its less for some areas now. It has gone down the last decade or so.

well, we were talking 60 years ago, not 10.

Youth start sex at same age as their parents, grandparents did


All told, the mean age for sexual intercourse is 16.5 years, about where it's been since the sexual revolution that was launched by today's baby boomers.

i was looking for the middle school age kid's statistics. the article you linked wasn't really about this topic, and i agree with those findings anyway.

i still find it hard to fathom a 12 y/o having sex. i think i might've still been playing with Barbies then.

i do think more middle schoolers are having sex and television, movies, hollywood, the internet, has influenced that.

And your wrong and sound like some cheesy fauz news bit... TV, games, etc... are causing kids to...
Its the same on average. Difference is younger people are more likely to tell the truth today. Look at someone like Republican Sen Craig. he was caught picking up guys and there have been reports of him being gay. But his time period/age gay was evil almost like blacks and whites dating. If that happens now a day by someone young they will be more liekly to admit it as its not as much a taboo.
In Iran being gay can get you a death sentance. Does that mean there are no gay people since theor prez says there are none? No, they just can't admit it or live their lives they way they were born.

Same humans different culture.

wait a minute, you don't have to turn this into some personal attack. my opinion is not wrong. neither is yours.

you don't have to turn this into something political either.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
[

When you were in Middle School did you know of any classmates having sex?

not that i know i, shit i think i felt boob in middle school and that basicially made me a god

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I am sure if you looked up the Kinsey Reports you'd find that the average age or percentage of students experimenting has not changed much at all in 60 years.

i'd be interested in that report, but i'd be willing to bet there is more sex going on at a younger age now than 60 years ago.

Actually its less for some areas now. It has gone down the last decade or so.

well, we were talking 60 years ago, not 10.

Youth start sex at same age as their parents, grandparents did


All told, the mean age for sexual intercourse is 16.5 years, about where it's been since the sexual revolution that was launched by today's baby boomers.

i was looking for the middle school age kid's statistics. the article you linked wasn't really about this topic, and i agree with those findings anyway.

i still find it hard to fathom a 12 y/o having sex. i think i might've still been playing with Barbies then.

i do think more middle schoolers are having sex and television, movies, hollywood, the internet, has influenced that.

And your wrong and sound like some cheesy fauz news bit... TV, games, etc... are causing kids to...
Its the same on average. Difference is younger people are more likely to tell the truth today. Look at someone like Republican Sen Craig. he was caught picking up guys and there have been reports of him being gay. But his time period/age gay was evil almost like blacks and whites dating. If that happens now a day by someone young they will be more liekly to admit it as its not as much a taboo.
In Iran being gay can get you a death sentance. Does that mean there are no gay people since theor prez says there are none? No, they just can't admit it or live their lives they way they were born.

Same humans different culture.

wait a minute, you don't have to turn this into some personal attack. my opinion is not wrong. neither is yours.

you don't have to turn this into something political either.

I was not attacking you but you short sighted statement that games, tv, etc... are causing it. This is the reason the schools are stepping up to give out condoms and BC cause parents don;t parent and then want someone to blame.
Kids are human and their hormones make them feal that way they do, not TV or anything else.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
what the hell who's bright idea was it to come up with this crap?

and people "under 15 years old" incorporates 2 years of highschool kids there.

eh, i didnt know of anyone who was 13 when they started 9th grade

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I am sure if you looked up the Kinsey Reports you'd find that the average age or percentage of students experimenting has not changed much at all in 60 years.

i'd be interested in that report, but i'd be willing to bet there is more sex going on at a younger age now than 60 years ago.

Actually its less for some areas now. It has gone down the last decade or so.

well, we were talking 60 years ago, not 10.

Youth start sex at same age as their parents, grandparents did


All told, the mean age for sexual intercourse is 16.5 years, about where it's been since the sexual revolution that was launched by today's baby boomers.

i was looking for the middle school age kid's statistics. the article you linked wasn't really about this topic, and i agree with those findings anyway.

i still find it hard to fathom a 12 y/o having sex. i think i might've still been playing with Barbies then.

i do think more middle schoolers are having sex and television, movies, hollywood, the internet, has influenced that.

And your wrong and sound like some cheesy fauz news bit... TV, games, etc... are causing kids to...
Its the same on average. Difference is younger people are more likely to tell the truth today. Look at someone like Republican Sen Craig. he was caught picking up guys and there have been reports of him being gay. But his time period/age gay was evil almost like blacks and whites dating. If that happens now a day by someone young they will be more liekly to admit it as its not as much a taboo.
In Iran being gay can get you a death sentance. Does that mean there are no gay people since theor prez says there are none? No, they just can't admit it or live their lives they way they were born.

Same humans different culture.

wait a minute, you don't have to turn this into some personal attack. my opinion is not wrong. neither is yours.

you don't have to turn this into something political either.

I was not attacking you but you short sighted statement that games, tv, etc... are causing it. This is the reason the schools are stepping up to give out condoms and BC cause parents don;t parent and then want someone to blame.
Kids are human and their hormones make them feal that way they do, not TV or anything else.

for one, i never said games were causing it. and you can go on denying that there *are* outside influences that make kids want to experiment with sex (in addition to hormonal urges), but i don't see it that way.

i will agree with you that parenting, poor parenting, can be an influence also.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I am sure if you looked up the Kinsey Reports you'd find that the average age or percentage of students experimenting has not changed much at all in 60 years.

i'd be interested in that report, but i'd be willing to bet there is more sex going on at a younger age now than 60 years ago.

Actually its less for some areas now. It has gone down the last decade or so.

well, we were talking 60 years ago, not 10.

Youth start sex at same age as their parents, grandparents did


All told, the mean age for sexual intercourse is 16.5 years, about where it's been since the sexual revolution that was launched by today's baby boomers.

i was looking for the middle school age kid's statistics. the article you linked wasn't really about this topic, and i agree with those findings anyway.

i still find it hard to fathom a 12 y/o having sex. i think i might've still been playing with Barbies then.

i do think more middle schoolers are having sex and television, movies, hollywood, the internet, has influenced that.

And your wrong and sound like some cheesy fauz news bit... TV, games, etc... are causing kids to...
Its the same on average. Difference is younger people are more likely to tell the truth today. Look at someone like Republican Sen Craig. he was caught picking up guys and there have been reports of him being gay. But his time period/age gay was evil almost like blacks and whites dating. If that happens now a day by someone young they will be more liekly to admit it as its not as much a taboo.
In Iran being gay can get you a death sentance. Does that mean there are no gay people since theor prez says there are none? No, they just can't admit it or live their lives they way they were born.

Same humans different culture.

wait a minute, you don't have to turn this into some personal attack. my opinion is not wrong. neither is yours.

you don't have to turn this into something political either.

I was not attacking you but you short sighted statement that games, tv, etc... are causing it. This is the reason the schools are stepping up to give out condoms and BC cause parents don;t parent and then want someone to blame.
Kids are human and their hormones make them feal that way they do, not TV or anything else.

i don't think they are the cause. but they are helping it along. TV, Movies etc are changing ideas and colture.

 

[Anubis]

if you think about it 200+ years ago 12-14 year olds were having sex, not with other 12-14 year olds tho, they were married off to someone 30 or so years older then them, to start pumpin out kids

 

[thecoolnessrune]

To be honest, I'm more upset that Maine taxpayers have to pay to help the little sluts and whores stay safe while they play.

My friend was 13 when she lost her virginity. But she's morally responsible enough to handle it and is still with that person.

The people this is for isn't for people like my friend who only has had sex a few times, always used protection, and truly loves her partner beyond a physical connection. This is for the little sluts who just want to fuck.

I find it disgraceful and dispicable and I don't see a point in helping them. If they're dumb enough to not get protection then I doubt they'd get it any easier from the school.

I don't think this is about "nature." This is about lack of self-control, lack of self-responsibility, and boys and girls thinking this is what is expected of them via music, billboards, TV shows, and then furthered and spread amongst the young groups via social networks, IMs, chatrooms, and schools.

And do I think anything needs done about it? NO. Cause I believe in personal responsibility and if they want to be whores let them.

I was homeschooled near all my school life and just started college during summer. There have been numerous occassions I could have gotten sex. Did I? NO. Cause I can be responsible and at least use have my brain besides the one that just controls reproduction. What the hell is the point of porking every girl that offers it to you? I guess some people don't mind living that way, but I need a deeper love than that in my life.

<-- 18 year old virgin and damn proud of it.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
To be honest, I'm more upset that Maine taxpayers have to pay to help the little sluts and whores stay safe while they play.

My friend was 13 when she lost her virginity. But she's morally responsible enough to handle it and is still with that person.

The people this is for isn't for people like my friend who only has had sex a few times, always used protection, and truly loves her partner beyond a physical connection. This is for the little sluts who just want to fuck.

I find it disgraceful and dispicable and I don't see a point in helping them. If they're dumb enough to not get protection then I doubt they'd get it any easier from the school.

I don't think this is about "nature." This is about lack of self-control, lack of self-responsibility, and boys and girls thinking this is what is expected of them via music, billboards, TV shows, and then furthered and spread amongst the young groups via social networks, IMs, chatrooms, and schools.

And do I think anything needs done about it? NO. Cause I believe in personal responsibility and if they want to be whores let them.

I was homeschooled near all my school life and just started college during summer. There have been numerous occassions I could have gotten sex. Did I? NO. Cause I can be responsible and at least use have my brain besides the one that just controls reproduction. What the hell is the point of porking every girl that offers it to you? I guess some people don't mind living that way, but I need a deeper love than that in my life.

<-- 18 year old virgin and damn proud of it.

Whoa.

 

[Dracos]

I had the "talk" with my stepson 2 years ago when he turned 13. Hardest talk ever especially since my father never gave me one.

As for kids having sex in middle school, yes it happens. Hell one of my stepson's classmates ex's was bisexual and they aren't even out of 8th grade yet. After I heard that, I purchased the boy some condoms cause we don't need any grandkids at our mid 30s.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
To be honest, I'm more upset that Maine taxpayers have to pay to help the little sluts and whores stay safe while they play.

My friend was 13 when she lost her virginity. But she's morally responsible enough to handle it and is still with that person.

The people this is for isn't for people like my friend who only has had sex a few times, always used protection, and truly loves her partner beyond a physical connection. This is for the little sluts who just want to fuck.

I find it disgraceful and dispicable and I don't see a point in helping them. If they're dumb enough to not get protection then I doubt they'd get it any easier from the school.

I don't think this is about "nature." This is about lack of self-control, lack of self-responsibility, and boys and girls thinking this is what is expected of them via music, billboards, TV shows, and then furthered and spread amongst the young groups via social networks, IMs, chatrooms, and schools.

And do I think anything needs done about it? NO. Cause I believe in personal responsibility and if they want to be whores let them.

I was homeschooled near all my school life and just started college during summer. There have been numerous occassions I could have gotten sex. Did I? NO. Cause I can be responsible and at least use have my brain besides the one that just controls reproduction. What the hell is the point of porking every girl that offers it to you? I guess some people don't mind living that way, but I need a deeper love than that in my life.

<-- 18 year old virgin and damn proud of it.

you are going to pay for it one way or another or do you not understand that?

if the kids get pregnant they are going to get public aid, etc.

 

[Tarrant64]

I thought my being a man whore at 15 was bad.

I just...don't understand how kids that young get "hooked" on something like sex. I mean, wtf is going to be exciting about sex at 5th grade?

"WTF" is all that goes through my head when I see this.

It's OK though, because I hope we all know that when shit hits the fan the parents are going to come around and blame the school for everything. Parents need to step in and take responsibility for their kids. Schools are forced to take actions like this I think because parents are failing to take responsibility for their kids actions.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Tarrant64
I thought my being a man whore at 15 was bad.

I just...don't understand how kids that young get "hooked" on something like sex. I mean, wtf is going to be exciting about sex at 5th grade?

"WTF" is all that goes through my head when I see this.

It's OK though, because I hope we all know that when shit hits the fan the parents are going to come around and blame the school for everything. Parents need to step in and take responsibility for their kids. Schools are forced to take actions like this I think because parents are failing to take responsibility for their kids actions.

i am sure even at 11 its still enjoyable.

but i agree parents need to take responsibliity. to many parents ignore it and think there kids will not have sex until its to late.

 

[Mr Incognito]

There is no real joy in sex, only the joy of trying to be cool and trying to imitate older, 'cooler' people.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I'm more concerned about the effect the hormones will have on kids so young. Are there any studies on that?

Very good question.

Precisely. My GF's mother wanted to put my GF on birth control. Me and my GF talked about it and we firmly refused. She's not finished developing yet and there is no way in hell I would make her start dumping more horomones in her body than she's already giving (processed meats etc.).

The thing that bothers me in modern society is the readiness parents have with dumping horomones and untested drugs in their daughter's bodies for the sake of "protecting" them, with no knowledge of what it will do to them. Does anyone know what 35-40 years of birth control could do to a woman? I sure as hell don't want my GF to be part of the study that finds out.

Thats why we both went to her mother and firmly told her we didn't want her on it. We are both dedicated to remaining virgins till we're married anyways. And if we did get caught up in it then "I" would take responsibility and use protection.

It's the same with ADD, ADHD, birth control; all this crap that parents think they can put in their pre/post-pubescent children and it won't affect them.

I have a deep resentment for people my age and younger, but simultaneously I have a worse resentment for their parents. People always say that these kids today are getting worse and worse, but I'm far more disgusted with the parents.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Mr Incognito
There is no real joy in sex, only the joy of trying to be cool and trying to imitate older, 'cooler' people.

uhh yeah sure.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

14 years old is what 8th grade? yes there were deffinitely kids have sex in the 8th grade.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
To be honest, I'm more upset that Maine taxpayers have to pay to help the little sluts and whores stay safe while they play.

My friend was 13 when she lost her virginity. But she's morally responsible enough to handle it and is still with that person.

The people this is for isn't for people like my friend who only has had sex a few times, always used protection, and truly loves her partner beyond a physical connection. This is for the little sluts who just want to fuck.

I find it disgraceful and dispicable and I don't see a point in helping them. If they're dumb enough to not get protection then I doubt they'd get it any easier from the school.

I don't think this is about "nature." This is about lack of self-control, lack of self-responsibility, and boys and girls thinking this is what is expected of them via music, billboards, TV shows, and then furthered and spread amongst the young groups via social networks, IMs, chatrooms, and schools.

And do I think anything needs done about it? NO. Cause I believe in personal responsibility and if they want to be whores let them.

I was homeschooled near all my school life and just started college during summer. There have been numerous occassions I could have gotten sex. Did I? NO. Cause I can be responsible and at least use have my brain besides the one that just controls reproduction. What the hell is the point of porking every girl that offers it to you? I guess some people don't mind living that way, but I need a deeper love than that in my life.

<-- 18 year old virgin and damn proud of it.

you are going to pay for it one way or another or do you not understand that?

if the kids get pregnant they are going to get public aid, etc.

yep, ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. And with a lot of parents trying to blame other kids, tv, games, etc... schools have to give out as much prevention as they can.

Also its a lose lose for schools. They give out BC/Condoms they are causing kids to have sex. They don;t give them out and its the schools fault for not protecting their little babies. :roll:

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
To be honest, I'm more upset that Maine taxpayers have to pay to help the little sluts and whores stay safe while they play.

My friend was 13 when she lost her virginity. But she's morally responsible enough to handle it and is still with that person.

The people this is for isn't for people like my friend who only has had sex a few times, always used protection, and truly loves her partner beyond a physical connection. This is for the little sluts who just want to fuck.

I find it disgraceful and dispicable and I don't see a point in helping them. If they're dumb enough to not get protection then I doubt they'd get it any easier from the school.

I don't think this is about "nature." This is about lack of self-control, lack of self-responsibility, and boys and girls thinking this is what is expected of them via music, billboards, TV shows, and then furthered and spread amongst the young groups via social networks, IMs, chatrooms, and schools.

And do I think anything needs done about it? NO. Cause I believe in personal responsibility and if they want to be whores let them.

I was homeschooled near all my school life and just started college during summer. There have been numerous occassions I could have gotten sex. Did I? NO. Cause I can be responsible and at least use have my brain besides the one that just controls reproduction. What the hell is the point of porking every girl that offers it to you? I guess some people don't mind living that way, but I need a deeper love than that in my life.

<-- 18 year old virgin and damn proud of it.

you are going to pay for it one way or another or do you not understand that?

if the kids get pregnant they are going to get public aid, etc.

I completely understand that. It's a game of the "lesser of the two evils." Problem is that nowadays, getting public aid is considered ok and encouraged, just like having sex is now accepted and encouraged.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Very few in middle school. Maybe 5 or 6 tops. Of course, middle school ages and grades vary across the country. Here it was 6-8 grade.