Mid-High end gaming PC (part 3!)

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Topweasel

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So you're telling me that a bunch of pseudo-technical handwavey nonsense is somehow better than cold hard facts? Tell me, how exactly is an i7 2600K going to magically sprout more execution units a couple of years down the line?

Hyperthreading is good in a narrow range of cases, and to suggest that games are magically going to become the hugely threaded monsters that will have a ton of branchy code that generates pipeline stalls while waiting on memory shows a complete ignorance of both programming and computer architecture. Simply put, you can't get blood from a stone.

Best example is take two systems. One with a 2500 and one with a 2600. Have both encode a video file. Performance for the most part will be pretty similiar. Add a single task, or operation that windows needs to do. The 2500 will lag up, screens will become unresponsive. The 2600 can still have 3 other "cores" to manage normal tasks such as using the gui.

So while 4 years ago almost no game was truly multi-threaded and could utilize more then 1 core. Now starting this year we have at-least one game in terms of BF3 that can utilize up to at least 4 cores in MP (the part everyone plays). A single background task on a 2500 will cause the machine to skip a beat and cause frame rates to dip. On the 2600 that same task will have 4 other "cores" to squeeze itself into and no one will notice.

Not to say that every game will be like this. But do you really expect this development to stop? Do you think that the rest of them will stop at 2 cores? No what will happen is most games will be developed for a 4 core setup, because of the i5's, i7's, PII X4, PII x6, BD chips sold in the last few years and from this point on. That means that even if they don't take full use of 6+ cores. They most certainly will use 4 on more regular basis.

Now I can't guess the transition or how big of an effect it will have on any given persons niche's of choice. But yeah. In 3-4-5 years the 2500 will be more and more interrupt-able then the 2600. That will have a measured affect on performance. So unless this will be a system that will never have more then games on it, and will never be given any other task then games. I think a 2500 is a bit shortsighted for a machine expecting to last 4-5 years.
 

Danimal1209

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If it were me, I would get the 2500k and spend the extra $100 from bumping up to a 2600k on a gfx card.

As mfenn already stated, the gfx card will be out of date MUCH faster than the cpu will.

My 5 year old machine has an e8400 and an 8600gt. The cpu is still pretty decent and can play all new games. The gpu is so oudated now that I can't play skyrim on it. I get 8fps with the lowest settings.

Get a 560ti or a 6850 or better, use it for 2-3 years, then get whatever is new at that point. The 2500k will be a beast for quite awhile.
 

Topweasel

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If it were me, I would get the 2500k and spend the extra $100 from bumping up to a 2600k on a gfx card.

As mfenn already stated, the gfx card will be out of date MUCH faster than the cpu will.

My 5 year old machine has an e8400 and an 8600gt. The cpu is still pretty decent and can play all new games. The gpu is so oudated now that I can't play skyrim on it. I get 8fps with the lowest settings.

Get a 560ti or a 6850 or better, use it for 2-3 years, then get whatever is new at that point. The 2500k will be a beast for quite awhile.

Yeah, my point wasn't and he quoted me after I already said that no matter what CPU, the GPU was the most import part. I was just making a point that the 2500k and the 2600k are not identical and while the real world performance difference in games is limited, that for a long term CPU, the 2600k will end up "feeling" better in a few years, and can have a noticeable advantage games, as developers start coding for more and more cores.
 

Beev

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For what it's worth I ended up getting a 2500k and a single 6950, and at the beginning of next month I'll order a second 6950. I think I will be pleased with this system.

Again, tremendous thanks to everyone for all of the help!
 

Topweasel

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For what it's worth I ended up getting a 2500k and a single 6950, and at the beginning of next month I'll order a second 6950. I think I will be pleased with this system.

Again, tremendous thanks to everyone for all of the help!

Great selection. Enjoy.
 

T_Yamamoto

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For what it's worth I ended up getting a 2500k and a single 6950, and at the beginning of next month I'll order a second 6950. I think I will be pleased with this system.

Again, tremendous thanks to everyone for all of the help!
have fun!
 

mfenn

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For what it's worth I ended up getting a 2500k and a single 6950, and at the beginning of next month I'll order a second 6950. I think I will be pleased with this system.

Again, tremendous thanks to everyone for all of the help!

:thumbsup::thumbsup: Very nice!