MS does not permit you from modding your XBox. If you don't like, you have two options:
1. Don't buy an XBox
2. Don't put it on Microsoft's network
Microsoft Live is very safe because it is a controlled environment. No rogue machine hosting bullsh!t viruses. Once you start letting in rogue machines, you're looking for trouble. And secondly, consoles make their money on games sales. The root of mods is to play copied games (geeks running Linux or just using it to stream video are a VERY small percentage of modders). If you have no revenue coming in from games (or not enough), the console will die. Good for MS for squashing this problem. Like I said, I think they are going about it the right way. As for "modders," you can still mod your XBox 360, just keep it off MS's network!
When MS bans people for violating the TOS, its evil, when blizzard bans and destroys htens of thousands of accounts for violating the TOS, blizzard is GOD?
Pffft. Fanboys.
Pffft. Fanboys.
I hate to interrupt this great conversation... but I would again like to point out the very small fact that Microsoft has not destroyed anybody's 360 and we have absolutely no evidence that they have any plans to.
What we do have evidence for is that if they believe someone has modded, the will disable them from getting on Live. Anybody who doesn't mod and likes to play fair games on Live should be happy about this. Anybody who does mod, should have expected this.
No it is as simple as you've violated the TOS. It is as simple as that. Don't like it? You don't have to buy a 360. Pretty easy solution, right? :roll:
Yes, because everyone signs a TOS when they buy a 360. :roll:
If you're using a modded 360 on Live, then you're violating the TOS of Live, and they have every right to take their ball and go home.
- M4H
Originally posted by: yukichigai
Read the article.Originally posted by: Beachboy
Just like the old X-Box... if you mod it you can't use it online. Pirates shouldn't be able to play online anyway.
Read the article.
Read the damn article.
Had you actually read the article you'd notice that unlike the XBox, Microsoft won't just ban you from XBox Live, they can either stop you from ever playing any new games, or completely destroy your 360 entirely. That, as they say, is f%$#ed up.
Why don't you read the friggen article. The writer or the article is speculating about what Microsoft might do even though there is absolutely no evidence to back it up. There is no reason to suspect that Microsoft has the means and the conviction to destroy someones 360. As a matter of fact, I'm sure Microsoft will explore absolutely EVERY other avenue to combat piracy because like most consoles, Microsoft loses money on every unit sold. They rely on people buying games, so killing someones 360 is like throwing money away to them - they need to give people incentives to buy the games legit, such as banning online play for modded boxes.
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Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: yukichigai
Read the article.Originally posted by: Beachboy
Just like the old X-Box... if you mod it you can't use it online. Pirates shouldn't be able to play online anyway.
Read the article.
Read the damn article.
Had you actually read the article you'd notice that unlike the XBox, Microsoft won't just ban you from XBox Live, they can either stop you from ever playing any new games, or completely destroy your 360 entirely. That, as they say, is f%$#ed up.
Why don't you read the friggen article. The writer or the article is speculating about what Microsoft might do even though there is absolutely no evidence to back it up. There is no reason to suspect that Microsoft has the means and the conviction to destroy someones 360. As a matter of fact, I'm sure Microsoft will explore absolutely EVERY other avenue to combat piracy because like most consoles, Microsoft loses money on every unit sold. They rely on people buying games, so killing someones 360 is like throwing money away to them - they need to give people incentives to buy the games legit, such as banning online play for modded boxes.
Good argument iamaelephant
:thumbsup:
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: yukichigai
Read the article.Originally posted by: Beachboy
Just like the old X-Box... if you mod it you can't use it online. Pirates shouldn't be able to play online anyway.
Read the article.
Read the damn article.
Had you actually read the article you'd notice that unlike the XBox, Microsoft won't just ban you from XBox Live, they can either stop you from ever playing any new games, or completely destroy your 360 entirely. That, as they say, is f%$#ed up.
Why don't you read the friggen article. The writer or the article is speculating about what Microsoft might do even though there is absolutely no evidence to back it up. There is no reason to suspect that Microsoft has the means and the conviction to destroy someones 360. As a matter of fact, I'm sure Microsoft will explore absolutely EVERY other avenue to combat piracy because like most consoles, Microsoft loses money on every unit sold. They rely on people buying games, so killing someones 360 is like throwing money away to them - they need to give people incentives to buy the games legit, such as banning online play for modded boxes.
Good argument iamaelephant
:thumbsup:
I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft goes "Yeah, we don't care if you're playing pirated stuff offline. Just no achievements, no gamerscore, no updates to your Live card, and definitely NO online play."
- M4H
amdhunter
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I modded my xbox 1 and don't play pirated games on it. As a matter of fact, all I use it for is to stream videos with XBOX media center. I could give a cr@p about any xbox 1 game (or 360 for that matter.)
There are people out there who'll mod their systems for something other than pirating.
Yes. I agree.
Now, if they were to have sold the Xbox 360 with the disclaimer that modding the system would be grounds for destructo such that the buyer had full disclosure at purchase, then I wouldn't have a problem with it.
After all, the buyer could just not buy the product.
Next thing you know they're deleting your windows partition and banning you from the internet! Fvcking Microsoft!!! I'll get you one day! /shakefisttowardssky
Unrelated to the news story (which is blocked at work), I don't think that is relevant in regard to the legality of what Microsoft does.
It's Microsoft's product and they can do with it what they like. You're a consumer and you can choose to buy it or not buy it.
That said, whether or not it makes good business sense is a different story
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I just don't see MS bricking the Xbox360's. I disagree with whoever was saying they would win in a case, unless it specifically states as such in the TOS. Even then, a bricked Xbox360 if modded certainly isn't implied before you open the packaging. I know more people who modded their original Xbox to use it as a Media Center (hence XBMC) than to pirate games.
Banning from XboxLive, certainly. Changing/creating some program to ID pirated games (are there unque IDs on CDs/DVDs?) and disable them, possibly. But I just don't see them totally bricking the console.
Banning from XboxLive, certainly. Changing/creating some program to ID pirated games (are there unque IDs on CDs/DVDs?) and disable them, possibly. But I just don't see them totally bricking the console.
The argument is, using a hacked 360 on Live, so yes, the TOS has been violated. :roll: MS isn't saying jack squat to people that use a mod and don't use Live. As a matter of fact, you can mod the crap out of your XBox/360 but don't bring that sh!t on Live. MS is basically saying, "get the fvck off my network b!tch!" You don't like it, don't buy a 360. Because a 360 without Live, well, sucks.
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