Microsoft workers demand it drop $480 million U.S. Army contract

dud

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The reason that I posted this is the following statement from the article below: “did not sign up to develop weapons, and we demand a say in how our work is used.”

WTH? We demand? No one is forcing these people to work for Microsoft ... and they are free to leave at ANY time.

We demand???




https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...p-480-million-u-s-army-contract-idUSKCN1QB2LV


"Some Microsoft Corp employees on Friday demanded that the company cancel a $480 million hardware contract to supply the U.S. Army, with 94 workers signing a petition calling on the company to stop developing “any and all weapons technologies.”

The organizing effort, described to Reuters by three Microsoft workers, offers the latest example in the last year of tech employees protesting cooperation with governments on emerging technologies.
Microsoft won a contract in November to supply the Army with at least 2,500 prototypes of augmented reality headsets, which digitally display contextual information in front of a user’s eyes. The government has said the devices would be used on the battlefield and in training to improve soldiers “lethality, mobility and situational awareness.”

In the petition to Microsoft executives, posted on Twitter, the workers said they “did not sign up to develop weapons, and we demand a say in how our work is used.” They called on the company to develop “a public-facing acceptable use policy” for its technology and an external review board to publicly enforce it. Microsoft said in a statement that it always appreciates employee feedback. It also referred to an October blog post by its president, Brad Smith, in which he said the company remained committed to assisting the military and would advocate for laws to ensure responsible use of new technologies.

The U.S. Army did not provide immediate comment.

Shares of Microsoft fell 7 cents to $110.90 after hours on Friday.

Though many governments want to draw upon the expertise of the biggest U.S. tech companies, employee resistance has added a new challenge to already complicated relationships.
Worker pushback led Alphabet Inc last year to announce it would not renew a Pentagon contract in which its artificial intelligence technology is used to analyze drone imagery.
In other cases, employee criticism has invited greater public scrutiny to deals, such as $10 billion cloud computing contract yet to be awarded and various contracts with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

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One Microsoft worker, speaking on condition of anonymity, said it was unclear whether any of the lead petitioners’ work was part of the Army contract. Another said several organizers work in the company’s cloud computing division, which is competing with rivals Google Cloud and Amazon Web Services to gain more government work.

Microsoft is expected unveil updates to HoloLens, its headset for businesses and governments, during an event at the Mobile World Congress industry conference in Barcelona on Sunday."
 
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cytg111

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I am a pretty ... progressive globalist socialistish kind of dude... But if that was my company, sorry guys but be free to gtfo... I hire your talents not your opinions...
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I am a pretty ... progressive globalist socialistish kind of dude... But if that was my company, sorry guys but be free to gtfo... I hire your talents not your opinions...
Which is why we live in a corporate world. You are a corporate drone if you ignore workers opinions.
 

cytg111

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Which is why we live in a corporate world. You are a corporate drone if you ignore workers opinions.
Company policy and vision is up to me, me alone. Dont like it?
That being said employer and employee is forever in a balance of supply and demand.. If I need their skills hard enough and I cant reasonable replace them I will have to give in to some of their demands.
This particular demand is a stupid one IMO.. Do these people not understand that the US is currently being raped by Russia? About to loose the race to hypersonic? In the blitzkrieg faze of cold war 2.0? And these "patriots" dont want to deal with the military... OK!
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Company policy and vision is up to me, me alone. Dont like it?
That being said employer and employee is forever in a balance of supply and demand.. If I need their skills hard enough and I cant reasonable replace them I will have to give in to some of their demands.
This particular demand is a stupid one IMO.. Do these people not understand that the US is currently being raped by Russia? About to loose the race to hypersonic? In the blitzkrieg faze of cold war 2.0? And these "patriots" dont want to deal with the military... OK!
Do you not understand corporations have been raping employees and skirting U.S. law for longer than you've been alive? If you form policies and company vision without input, you're an idiot. The people working for you make every dime you have. Policies have never earned a nickel and never will.
 

cytg111

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Do you not understand corporations have been raping employees and skirting U.S. law for longer than you've been alive? If you form policies and company vision without input, you're an idiot. The people working for you make every dime you have. Policies have never earned a nickel and never will.
Workers needs unions and effective minimum wage legislation, single payer healthcare 40 hour work weeks, childs first and second sick day ETC ETC. What they dont need is tell me how my company makes money... That is my business.
 
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SlowSpyder

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Liberals don't live in the real world. It is like these fools think that if we stop developing weapons to stay on the technological forefront, then the whole world will sing kumbaya and hug it out.
 

sandorski

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Liberals don't live in the real world. It is like these fools think that if we stop developing weapons to stay on the technological forefront, then the whole world will sing kumbaya and hug it out.

What is the "Real World"?
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Workers needs unions and effective minimum wage legislation, single payer healthcare 40 hour work weeks, childs first and second sick day ETC ETC. What they dont need is tell me how my company makes money... That is my business.
You might want to think about why unions, minimum wage, labor laws are necessary. Perhaps your company and every corporation on the planet should stop viewing what they are forced to do as a business plan. Here's a hint, making the best use of worker's talents includes listening to their opinions.
 
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cytg111

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You might want to think about why unions, minimum wage, labor laws are necessary. Perhaps your company and every corporation on the planet should stop viewing what they are forced to do as a business plan. Here's a hint, making the best use of worker's talents includes listening to their opinions.
To my mind, as natural things progress, this is the natural order of these things... Jumping to corps having a "soul" is skipping a few steps.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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To my mind, as natural things progress, this is the natural order of these things... Jumping to corps having a "soul" is skipping a few steps.
I expect CEO'S to have a soul not, corporations. The whole concept of doing the absolute minimum and only what you're forced to as a corporation is seriously flawed. If a corporation ever existed that put its people first, they would put their competitors out of business in short order. It's greed pure and simple repackaged as free market enterprise.
 

hal2kilo

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The reason that I posted this is the following statement from the article below: “did not sign up to develop weapons, and we demand a say in how our work is used.”

WTH? We demand? No one is forcing these people to work for Microsoft ... and they are free to leave at ANY time.

We demand???




https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...p-480-million-u-s-army-contract-idUSKCN1QB2LV


"Some Microsoft Corp employees on Friday demanded that the company cancel a $480 million hardware contract to supply the U.S. Army, with 94 workers signing a petition calling on the company to stop developing “any and all weapons technologies.”

The organizing effort, described to Reuters by three Microsoft workers, offers the latest example in the last year of tech employees protesting cooperation with governments on emerging technologies.
Microsoft won a contract in November to supply the Army with at least 2,500 prototypes of augmented reality headsets, which digitally display contextual information in front of a user’s eyes. The government has said the devices would be used on the battlefield and in training to improve soldiers “lethality, mobility and situational awareness.”

In the petition to Microsoft executives, posted on Twitter, the workers said they “did not sign up to develop weapons, and we demand a say in how our work is used.” They called on the company to develop “a public-facing acceptable use policy” for its technology and an external review board to publicly enforce it. Microsoft said in a statement that it always appreciates employee feedback. It also referred to an October blog post by its president, Brad Smith, in which he said the company remained committed to assisting the military and would advocate for laws to ensure responsible use of new technologies.

The U.S. Army did not provide immediate comment.

Shares of Microsoft fell 7 cents to $110.90 after hours on Friday.

Though many governments want to draw upon the expertise of the biggest U.S. tech companies, employee resistance has added a new challenge to already complicated relationships.
Worker pushback led Alphabet Inc last year to announce it would not renew a Pentagon contract in which its artificial intelligence technology is used to analyze drone imagery.
In other cases, employee criticism has invited greater public scrutiny to deals, such as $10 billion cloud computing contract yet to be awarded and various contracts with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

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One Microsoft worker, speaking on condition of anonymity, said it was unclear whether any of the lead petitioners’ work was part of the Army contract. Another said several organizers work in the company’s cloud computing division, which is competing with rivals Google Cloud and Amazon Web Services to gain more government work.

Microsoft is expected unveil updates to HoloLens, its headset for businesses and governments, during an event at the Mobile World Congress industry conference in Barcelona on Sunday."
Microsoft OS's are used for front end GUI's in many military systems, much to my chagrin. So, they are a bit late. F'n I/A nightmares.
 

Starbuck1975

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“workers signing a petition calling on the company to stop developing any and all weapons technologies.”

“Microsoft won a contract in November to supply the Army with at least 2,500 prototypes of augmented reality headsets”

Weapons not found.
 
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You might want to think about why unions, minimum wage, labor laws are necessary. Perhaps your company and every corporation on the planet should stop viewing what they are forced to do as a business plan. Here's a hint, making the best use of worker's talents includes listening to their opinions.

So how do unions, minimum wage, and labor laws work when the entire industry is then automated? You think your job isn't immune to that? You think the MS workers in this will be immune to that? When you do stupid shit like this - you just drive the wedge further. They have no basis to their argument, they just have mindless drivel because they are simply uneducated and incompetent fools.

Congrats! You have a truck drivers union! Demand more pay! Demand more! Except... oh wait, none of you are needed anymore.



“workers signing a petition calling on the company to stop developing any and all weapons technologies.”

“Microsoft won a contract in November to supply the Army with at least 2,500 prototypes of augmented reality headsets”

Weapons not found.

But but the army shoots things and goes pew pew pew right?
 

sandorski

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So how do unions, minimum wage, and labor laws work when the entire industry is then automated? You think your job isn't immune to that? You think the MS workers in this will be immune to that? When you do stupid shit like this - you just drive the wedge further. They have no basis to their argument, they just have mindless drivel because they are simply uneducated and incompetent fools.

Congrats! You have a truck drivers union! Demand more pay! Demand more! Except... oh wait, none of you are needed anymore.





But but the army shoots things and goes pew pew pew right?

Automation will happen regardless of Union/no-Union.