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gizbug

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I don't know about you, but this OS is nothing more than a beefed up Windows XP.
Nothing new, nothing ground breaking for an OS in 4+ years of making. Probably won't be a hot seller for MS. Plus, game performance is suppose to be less than XP.

Maybe MS's next OS will be something to "look forward too" because vista is nothing more than a service pack XP could have been.

 
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Seeruk

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OP - That's a pretty impressive way to say

"I have no idea what actually goes on under the hood of an operating system"

I understand your screams from a superficial UI standpoint... but really you should understand uhmmmm 'more'
 
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I'm seeing about 15+% less RAM usage with build 5744 over 5728 and 20 less processes (BOOM)
 
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bsobel

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This isnt an OS question, its a rant, and a piss poor one at that.

Probably won't be a hot seller for MS. Plus, game performance is suppose to be less than XP.
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Yes, poor MS might be stuck just seilling one copy on every new pc that ships after February.

Bill
 
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gizbug

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Originally posted by: bsobel
This isnt an OS question, its a rant, and a piss poor one at that.


Bill
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Poor one? Try running the OS and compare, CHIEF.
 
MrChad

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Originally posted by: gizbug
Originally posted by: bsobel
This isnt an OS question, its a rant, and a piss poor one at that.


Bill
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Poor one? Try running the OS and compare, CHIEF.
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Nothing in your OP indicates that you have run the OS. How about posting some constructive criticism in one of the many Vista threads that have already been started instead of simply trolling?
 
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bendixG15

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Originally posted by: gizbug
I don't know about you, but this OS is nothing more than a beefed up Windows XP.
Nothing new, nothing ground breaking for an OS in 4+ years of making. Probably won't be a hot seller for MS. Plus, game performance is suppose to be less than XP.

Maybe MS's next OS will be something to "look forward too" because vista is nothing more than a service pack XP could have been.
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You are correct ......
MS never could figure out what the real world needs.

 
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bsobel

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Originally posted by: gizbug
Originally posted by: bsobel
This isnt an OS question, its a rant, and a piss poor one at that.


Bill
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Poor one? Try running the OS and compare, CHIEF.
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I've been running betas since before you ever heard the codename Longhorn, 'chief'. From your responses, it looks to me your not looking for a discussion, but rather a vacation...
 
KeithTalent

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Bombshell???? :confused:

I guess you got me in your thread though, good job :roll:
 
Rangoric

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Bombshell???? :confused:

I guess you got me in your thread though, good job :roll:
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I know I was ready to ask for Pics.

What product doesn't need a Bombshell. I mean Nvidia has that Nymph/Fairy to oggle.
 
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Pabster

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Originally posted by: CrystalBay
I'm seeing about 15+% less RAM usage with build 5744 over 5728 and 20 less processes (BOOM)
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The RAM usage has definitely improved, but it is still significantly higher than a vanilla XP install. By about 200MB or so easily.

As for the OP, you have plenty of people who agree with you. I'm no big fan of Vista either. It does have some nice new features, but overall, I find it slow and clunky. I believe I will continue to run XP until hell freezes over :p
 
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corkyg

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Originally posted by: jlbenedict
When its all said and done with, Windows Vista will be far superior than Windows XP.
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It already is according to knowledgeable reviewers.

 
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dawks

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Originally posted by: gizbug
I don't know about you, but this OS is nothing more than a beefed up Windows XP.
Nothing new, nothing ground breaking for an OS in 4+ years of making. Probably won't be a hot seller for MS. Plus, game performance is suppose to be less than XP.

Maybe MS's next OS will be something to "look forward too" because vista is nothing more than a service pack XP could have been.
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As the list says, new re-written network stack, new re-written printer stack, new re-written sound stack, new re-written driver system, new re-written user access system.. This release is going to me a magnitude larger then any previous release from Microsoft.
 
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Pabster

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Originally posted by: dawks
As the list says, new re-written network stack, new re-written printer stack, new re-written sound stack, new re-written driver system, new re-written user access system.. This release is going to me a magnitude larger then any previous release from Microsoft.
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True, most of the big changes are 'under the hood' and not apparent to the end user at all.

I think what remains to be seen is how secure Vista will be with all these 'written from scratch' kernel components.
 
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biggestmuff

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Originally posted by: gizbug
I don't know about you, but this OS is nothing more than a beefed up Windows XP.
Nothing new, nothing ground breaking for an OS in 4+ years of making. Probably won't be a hot seller for MS. Plus, game performance is suppose to be less than XP.

Maybe MS's next OS will be something to "look forward too" because vista is nothing more than a service pack XP could have been.
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Did you complain this much when Win98 and WinME were released?
 
Maximilian

Maximilian

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I think saying itll be far superior to XP is pushing it...

Itll be better than XP eventually yeah, worth the money though? doubt it. Its a neccesity for me though as ill need DX10 and some games may eventually not support XP. Some games dont support windows 2000 but do support XP, which is bullcrap, but thats the way it is.
 
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MikeyLSU

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First off, I ran Beta 2 and RC1 on my computer and liked the changes but switched back to XP for gaming reasons.

Vista is better than XP. But it does not run better on all computers, I will stay away from Vista until my next computer upgrade(probably a year and a half away when DX 10 cards become affordable). My problem is that(I am running an AMD 2500+ OCed to about a 3000+ with 1.5 GB of RAM)it takes too much RAM and games are not quite optimized for Vista yet. I don't care that Vista takes up 500 MB of RAM, it bothers me now, but Vista is not meant to be run on 2 year old computers. Once I upgrade, Vista will be using a small fraction of resources and when drivers are all optimized for it, it will be a good OS.
 
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