Microsoft under fire for censoring China blogs

SVT Cobra

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SEATTLE (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp.'s new MSN China Internet venture is censoring words such as "freedom," "democracy" and "human rights" on its free online journals, Microsoft said on Tuesday, putting itself in the middle of a major Web controversy.

The world's largest software maker said that its "MSN Spaces" service operated out of China, which allows users to set up their own blogs, or online journals, was acting in accordance with local laws.

"MSN abides by the laws, regulations and norms of each country in which it operates," said Brooke Richardson, MSN lead product manager.

The move comes as the Chinese government attempts to tighten control over the Internet. Last week, a media watchdog group said China would close unregistered China-based domestic web sites and blogs. About three-quarters of domestic Web sites had complied with the registration orders, the group, Reporters without Borders said, citing Chinese figures.

Microsoft rivals such as Yahoo Inc., eBay Inc., Amazon.com Inc. and InterActiveCorp., which have made a string of acquisitions to expand their operations in China, have also been known to censor content in the country.

Words and phrases banned in the subject line of entries for Microsoft's MSN Spaces on Tuesday also included "Taiwan independence" and "demonstration," which returned an error message saying "prohibited language, please remove."

Not even former and current leaders' names such as "Mao Zedong" or "Hu Jintao" were allowed.

Most of the phrases, however, were allowed in the body of the entries.

Other blog sites lashed out at Microsoft. Online tech forum Slashdot had user comments calling the censorship a "really really awful thing" and accusing the software giant of trying to appease China's government in the interest of conducting business.

Matt Rosoff, analyst at Directions on Microsoft, an independent research firm in Kirkland, Washington, pointed out that any censorship by Microsoft's online service was relatively minor compared to the broader censorship by the Chinese government over all Internet activity.

"If Microsoft wants to do business in China they have to obey the laws set by the Chinese government," Rosoff said, adding that "they've done the calculations and decided this was worth it."

Microsoft's censorship was first reported by bloggers and news outlets in Asia after MSN Spaces was launched in China on May 26. So far, five million blogs have been created with the service, Microsoft said.

The company has long seen China as a key growth market, but also as a headache because of widespread software piracy and copyright issues. China represents the world's second-largest Internet market with 94 million users at the end of 2004, a number expected to rise to 134 million by the end of this year, according to official data.

Redmond, Washington-based Microsoft launched MSN China last month by establishing a joint venture with government-operated Shanghai Alliance Investment Ltd. (SAIL) to develop more communication, information and content tied to China.





wow...sorta scary...if ATOT were in china we would all have been permabanned by now, expecially the P&N guys
 

PanzerIV

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The Chinese government is run by a bunch of backwards f^cks still trying to keep people ignorant using thought control and censorship. It's a shame that in 2005 people still have to live under such opression by paranoid asses who don't want the cat let out of the bag what a draconian and inflexible society they are running. If you have to lie and threaten to keep your citizens in line obviously something is inherently wrong with your system.

Enough P&N though...
 

IBuyUFO

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Originally posted by: Anubis
censorship in anyway shap or form is so utterly wrong

its like the 8th deadly sin

I don't see a problem with what microsoft is doing. Even though it's a US based company laws in the US do not apply in foreign soil. Not everything is black and white and right and wrong.
If you ran Microsoft and you wanted to expand to China what would you do knowing that China is big with censorship?
I feel that microsoft did their research and made the best decision possible to carry business in that country and not provoking the government.
 

IBuyUFO

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Originally posted by: PanzerIV
The Chinese government is run by a bunch of backwards f^cks still trying to keep people ignorant using thought control and censorship. It's a shame that in 2005 people still have to live under such opression by paranoid asses who don't want the cat let out of the bag what a draconian and inflexible society they are running. If you have to lie and threaten to keep your citizens in line obviously something is inherently wrong with your system.

Enough P&N though...

I agree with you. Too many backward thinking people who are too afraid to change and have ideas that with freedom they'll lose control.
 

mercanucaribe

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So it's okayfor American media to censor bad words and boobs, but wrong for China to censor political words? :roll:
 

klah

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E-bay, Amazon and Yahoo have to provide censored versions of their sites for France.
 

crystal

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
So it's okayfor American media to censor bad words and boobs, but wrong for China to censor political words? :roll:

lol, people who believe there are no censorship in this country live in a cloud land.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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They were following the country's laws like they should have. If I go to China and I act according to US law, I can still justly get arrested and imprisoned for things against Chinese law. Same goes the other way around. If you're going to live in another country but sell product here in the US, the US requires that your product conform to US law.
 

DAWeinG

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What's the big deal?

People need to get a clue that they can't and shouldn't make the whole world into an America.
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: DAWeinG
What's the big deal?

People need to get a clue that they can't and shouldn't make the whole world into an America.


yes you are right, but it is still a shame that people are still opressed like that and cannot say what they want even online...in the age of 2005...

and don't give me that, you live in the USA you know nothing type of thing, I have traveled to other countries and stayed in germany for a month or so on business. I still find it surprising that people are like that these days, but I guess i do live in a sheltered country.
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: crystal
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
So it's okayfor American media to censor bad words and boobs, but wrong for China to censor political words? :roll:

lol, people who believe there are no censorship in this country live in a cloud land.

Thank God someone else is awake enough to notice.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: crystal
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
So it's okayfor American media to censor bad words and boobs, but wrong for China to censor political words? :roll:

lol, people who believe there are no censorship in this country live in a cloud land.

Thank God someone else is awake enough to notice.

winnar

seriously, it's kind of weird to see everybody get all indignant about censorship in china when they don't even notice that censorship occurs every day in america.
 

grrl

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"MSN abides by the laws, regulations and norms of each country in which it operates," said Brooke Richardson, MSN lead product manager.

Unless the laws deal with monopolistic behavior.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: crystal
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
So it's okayfor American media to censor bad words and boobs, but wrong for China to censor political words? :roll:

lol, people who believe there are no censorship in this country live in a cloud land.

Thank God someone else is awake enough to notice.

winnar

seriously, it's kind of weird to see everybody get all indignant about censorship in china when they don't even notice that censorship occurs every day in america.

Are you actually trying to compare the level of censorship between China and the US?

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