Microsoft to take on GNU, Vista will be GNU compatible

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Leros

Leros

Lifer
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The aim of UNG is to write complete GNU-like tools and frameworks that will be completely compatible with existing GNU software and standards. These tools will run natively on Vista. This means that software written for the GNU environment will be able to compile and run on Vista with little or no modifications. Major software currently running on GNU/Linux will be able to run natively on Vista.
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http://www.royalidea.com/site/?q=node/12

This would be amazing if true.

The best part is the acronym. UNG (UNG's not GNU)
 
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A5

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Jun 9, 2000
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I find this highly unlikely - about as likely as me having a 3 way with Mid-90s Mariah Carey and Your mother.
 
TwiceOver

TwiceOver

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Safeway
Vista is barely PC compatible.
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:roll:

Work Desktop: Fine
Laptop: Fine
Wife's Desktop: Fine

I haven't had any problems with it yet.

 
Safeway

Safeway

Lifer
Jun 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Originally posted by: Safeway
Vista is barely PC compatible.
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:roll:

Work Desktop: Fine
Laptop: Fine
Wife's Desktop: Fine

I haven't had any problems with it yet.
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You are lucky. I am referring to Vista Enterprise on an Active Directory with roughly 2,500 users. It sucks ass. We rolled it out in a small test room and re-imaged all the machines back to XP Pro SP2 within two weeks.

The problem was: Each user has a 4GB network drive, Z:, with the users ID as the drive name. Vista Enterprise creates a Document folder with that same ID name. Average users start saving all their documents locally, instead of on the network drive. We had to look up what computers they logged into and get them to retrieve their files. Over and over. The same users!

Vista sucks.
 
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loup garou

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Originally posted by: Safeway
Vista is barely PC compatible.
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:roll:

Work Desktop: Fine
Laptop: Fine
Wife's Desktop: Fine

I haven't had any problems with it yet.
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You are lucky. I am referring to Vista Enterprise on an Active Directory with roughly 2,500 users. It sucks ass. We rolled it out in a small test room and re-imaged all the machines back to XP Pro SP2 within two weeks.

The problem was: Each user has a 4GB network drive, Z:, with the users ID as the drive name. Vista Enterprise creates a Document folder with that same ID name. Average users start saving all their documents locally, instead of on the network drive. We had to look up what computers they logged into and get them to retrieve their files. Over and over. The same users!

Vista sucks.
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I find it hard to believe someone this clueless has any influence over a 2500 workstation domain.
 
Safeway

Safeway

Lifer
Jun 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: loup garou
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Originally posted by: Safeway
Vista is barely PC compatible.
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:roll:

Work Desktop: Fine
Laptop: Fine
Wife's Desktop: Fine

I haven't had any problems with it yet.
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You are lucky. I am referring to Vista Enterprise on an Active Directory with roughly 2,500 users. It sucks ass. We rolled it out in a small test room and re-imaged all the machines back to XP Pro SP2 within two weeks.

The problem was: Each user has a 4GB network drive, Z:, with the users ID as the drive name. Vista Enterprise creates a Document folder with that same ID name. Average users start saving all their documents locally, instead of on the network drive. We had to look up what computers they logged into and get them to retrieve their files. Over and over. The same users!

Vista sucks.
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I find it hard to believe someone this clueless has any influence over a 2500 workstation domain.
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No, I don't. You are right. All I do is image and maintain. Help students. And fuck you.
 
lokiju

lokiju

Lifer
May 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Originally posted by: Safeway
Vista is barely PC compatible.
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:roll:

Work Desktop: Fine
Laptop: Fine
Wife's Desktop: Fine

I haven't had any problems with it yet.
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I've been using it now for almost a year on my desktop, server and laptop with no issues.
 
mugs

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: lokiju
I've been using it now for almost a year on my desktop, server and laptop with no issues.
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I think it was about 3 months and two reformats due to "OS not found" errors before I went back to XP. And the thing is, there is very little I miss about Vista. The file transfer window is more detailed.... that's pretty much all I miss.
 
Safeway

Safeway

Lifer
Jun 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: lokiju
I've been using it now for almost a year on my desktop, server and laptop with no issues.
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I think it was about 3 months and two reformats due to "OS not found" errors before I went back to XP. And the thing is, there is very little I miss about Vista. The file transfer window is more detailed.... that's pretty much all I miss.
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Someone else with Vista issues. Hopefully they have more confidence in what you say, mugs.
 
TallBill

TallBill

Lifer
Apr 29, 2001
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I don't understand the hate for Vista either. I have it on 3 machines and have had zero problems. My pc has been rebooted once in the last 2 months and it wasn't OS related, with no slow down.
 
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StormRider

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But Windows already has a POSIX compatible subsystem that allows most UNIX source code to be able to compile and run natively.

POSIX support
The Portable Operating System for UNIX (POSIX) subsystem is not included with Windows XP or with Windows Server 2003. The POSIX subsystem has been replaced with a more UNIX-like environment that is named Windows Services for UNIX. Windows Services for UNIX is a superset of the original POSIX subsystem and provides greater functionality for UNIX programs. Windows Services for UNIX requires Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1 (SP1) or later.
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zoiks

Lifer
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Originally posted by: StormRider
But Windows already has a POSIX compatible subsystem that allows most UNIX source code to be able to compile and run natively.

POSIX support
The Portable Operating System for UNIX (POSIX) subsystem is not included with Windows XP or with Windows Server 2003. The POSIX subsystem has been replaced with a more UNIX-like environment that is named Windows Services for UNIX. Windows Services for UNIX is a superset of the original POSIX subsystem and provides greater functionality for UNIX programs. Windows Services for UNIX requires Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1 (SP1) or later.
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Thats what I was wondering as well. I use cygwin and mingw for my gnu needs which work fine with XP.
 
Linflas

Linflas

Lifer
Jan 30, 2001
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Originally posted by: TallBill
I don't understand the hate for Vista either. I have it on 3 machines and have had zero problems. My pc has been rebooted once in the last 2 months and it wasn't OS related, with no slow down.
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I don't get it either. I am using it now on both my primary machines at home and it works as well as XP did. I have also installed it on quite a few different older machines and the only real problem I have run into is not being able to find drivers in some cases.
 
destrekor

destrekor

Lifer
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vista is very touchy, and if anything happens along the way of usage, it can create major headaches. HOWEVER, with that being said, a properly maintained system - with working drivers and no file-system issues - will be able to run Vista flawlessly. And Vista, once it reaches mass adoption and Microsoft includes some of the things they originally planned... and more developers grow comfortable with the abilities.... it will be great.
I've never had a problem in Vista that I hadn't had in XP. I've had enough issues with XP that I grew bored with it. Modern and future hardware is going to benefit more with Vista compared to XP... Vista is much more future-proof it seems in its capabilities.

Now.. file transfers? They need to fix that stat. agonizingly slow.

Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
Originally posted by: Safeway
Vista is barely PC compatible.
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:thumbsdown:
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Man, I thought it was funny.
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you wrote it, so that's no excuse. :p
 
Modelworks

Modelworks

Lifer
Feb 22, 2007
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Soon they will announce.
Vista is linux compatible !
To properly run vista, install linux, then run vista as a virtual os.
 
Joemonkey

Joemonkey

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Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Just to chime in with Vista on AD, it does suck.

Can't get group policy to apply unless http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=934430

Can't get network drives to map at logon unless http://support.microsoft.com/kb/937624
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Thanks for the support. Vista Enterprise sucks on Active Directory.
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Anytime man! Screw Vista in our environment at this time, even after we've installed SP1 still issue after issue. Just a few other problems we have seen:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921468/en-us

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948030/en-us

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920727/en-us

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942220/en-us

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/941158/en-us

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947229/en-us

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939882/en-us
 
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