Microsoft Sidewinder Precision Pro - Problems with the rudder

Gnollguy

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Well, it looks like I killed it. I have an original Precsion Pro with the bigger base and the extra "thumb" button (great for things like car resets, the FreeSpace Afterburner, etc), and "flat" throttle control. You can't find them anymore now, just the Precsion Pro 2's with the stand up throttle, smaller grip and one less button (much smaller base size though). sigh

Anyway here is the deal, and maybe where someone can help me. In fixing one of the base buttons I seem to have killed the rudder (twist). Here's the story...

One of the base buttons wasn't working quite right. Considering the stick is 3 (maybe even more actually) years old and there are few cracks that dust could get in, I decided to pop it open and clean it. Since it is an optical stick I knew there wouldn't be too much in the way I could screw up and I have taken sticks apart with good success before.

So, I pop the stick open, and remove the screws for the PCB as well so I can get to the buttons. I unfortunately had a few of the parts (throttle, an optical sensor and the brace) come out before I had time to look at them to insure I knew how to put them back together. Not a huge deal, I figured I could figure it out.

I clean the contact on the button as there was a bit of build up on it, study the stick and put it back together. I go in to the 'gaming controllers' control panel applet (in WinXP SP1) and check the button, working great, everything else seems to be working alright as well. Then I try the rudder (the stick swivel) which is hugely important in the flight and space combat sims. It isnt' working at all. As a matter of fact it looks to be going haywire, randomly jumping between 0 and 100%.

I try to calibrate, no luck. So I open the stick up again. I figure out which sending and recieving sensors work for the stick itself, the throttle and all the buttons are obvious. I have no idea what controls the rudder (twist) though. I still can't figure it out. It looks like it should be handled by the same sensors that handle the stick motion itself, but I can't get any repsonse when I manually play with that.

This bums me out a lot. If could disable the rudder in general, I could live with it for some games, but since it flits around randomly I have to unassign it from use in any game, and I have to use the stick without that functionality as well. This sucks.

This joystick is the best one I have ever used. It fits my hands better than anything else out there, and I have tried a lot of them. I am hoping someone will be able to help me with this one. If not, I will see what I can get from MS (I got this stick as a replacement for my dead Sidewinder 3D Pro, which I later managed to get to mostly work, for just the cost of shipping) so hopefully I can get something like that again, but I don't want to because I doubt I'll get a Precision Pro, probably just a PP2.

If anyone has, or can find some info on what controls the twist on one of these sticks I would be a very happy camper. I am still hoping/assuming that I put something back wrong or something odd like that but I haven't had much luck finding any info.
 

Gnollguy

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Just another note. I have had a bit more time to play, and I can get counterclockwise twist but that is it. My suspiscions were correct in that the same unit that controls the actual stick movement controls the twist reading as well. However there are only 4 orientations this unit can take. In two of them I completely lose the rudder. In the other 2, I only get counterclockwise twist.

I guess I'll just have to give it up and try and find another one somewhere. Bleh.