Microsoft server crash nearly causes 800-plane pile-up

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Cerb

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Unix -> Linux for mission-critical use: good.
Unix -> Windows for mission-critical app: WHAT ARE F---TARDS THINKING?!
 

Demon-Xanth

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The Win95 49.7 day bug was caused in a hardware timer that rolled over to 0. When that happened, it crashed. As far as your 187 day uptime goes, I have a Freesco router/firewall/http/ftp system that continuously runs the entire duration between power outages. 9 months isn't uncommon. It hasn't had a keyboard or monitor hooked upto it in the last 4 months, and the last time it went down was because I was replacing the normal HSF with a Xeon heatsink w/o fan to reduce noise.


Anyone wonder what happens to planes that happen to be trying to land during the 30 day reboot?
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
800 plane pile-up i kinda far-fetched, don't you think? I'd like to think the pilots would be able to avoid each other to the point of only 100-plane pile-up.

Have you ever seen how many planes are in the air at one time? Especially in places like LAX...

Pilots fly a predetermined path to the airport regardless of whether they are in contact with air traffic control or not. They also have traffic collision avoidance systems on board the aircraft. Although losing total communications is a clusterfvck an pain in the ass for the pilots, if they are on top of things they should just continue with thier flight plan.
 

Homerboy

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wait a second... read the article:

partly due to a "design anomaly" in the way Microsoft Windows servers were integrated into the system

and

The failure was ultimately down to a combination of human error and a design glitch in the Windows servers brought in over the past three years to replace the radio system's original Unix servers, according to the FAA.

nobody is mentioning the part about "human error" I suppose thats MS's fault too?
I could buy a billion *NIX servers but if I dont isntall them right or operate them right the same thing could have happened.
 

phantom309

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Can't blame it all on MSFT. You can't predict every glitch that happens.

Yet this never happened in decades of using UNIX? I'm no anti microsoft zealot, but in this case, I think we can safely blame MS. In fact, I question anyone who uses windows (even the quite stable NT) for a life critical application.

I agree. Windows is great for a file and email server but it was insane to use it in this application. We don't even trust it to run our accounting system.
 

Armitage

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Forgot the "prophylactic reboot" eh?
When I've worked on some government facilities, that was strict IT policy ... all windows machines get a prophylactic reboot once a week ... from the desktop up to the servers. Meanwhile the unix systems just keep on keeping on.
 

IHYLN

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Can't blame it all on MSFT. You can't predict every glitch that happens.

Yet this never happened in decades of using UNIX? I'm no anti microsoft zealot, but in this case, I think we can safely blame MS. In fact, I question anyone who uses windows (even the quite stable NT) for a life critical application.

Yes we can safely blame Microsoft, because it's definitely not my fault if my car dies after not changing the oil after 3000 miles.

:confused:
 

HamSupLo

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they probably went to the Dell/Windows boxes to save money, those cheap ass bastards.