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Microsoft sends Apple a birthday card?

Well.. You have to realise that the only reason Apple is still around is because Microsoft saved them from a downward spiral to bankruptcy a few years ago.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/cyberspace/july-dec97/apple_8-6a.html

All this basicly means that if you like Apple products you can thank Bill Gates for bailing that company out.

Microsoft makes a lot of money by selling it's Office Suite to Apple users. Of course it's a tiny market compared to it's Windows user's base, but I am sure that they are happy to have the business.
 
🙂My Linux professor really hates Windows and with Apple using Windows XP on its systems,
I knew that earthquake off the Big Island (Hawaii), was not a fluke.
Must have been when she heard about Boot Camp
She must have fainted while having her morning mail.
 
Well apple doesn't realy 'use windows xp' on it's systems.

Apple allows Windows XP to easily be installed along with it's operating system.

Linux has been doing this for years. Most installer stuff makes it dead easy to setup a dual boot system with Windows.

Apple sells computers. If users want to have Windows on their computer, then why shouldn't apple support this configuration?

Especially with Intel's VT stuff, that is appearing here and their, it will allow Apple to have Xen boot up Windows in a VM with native bare-hardware speeds and anybody using OS X also then gains 100% binary compatability with all Windows applications. Typically moving people from one OS to another can be difficult and often deal-breakers are that there are one or two applications that aren't aviable on one system or another. Having Windows aviable to you when you want to get away from windows makes the transition much more simplier.
 
Microsoft makes significant money by selling the Mac version of MS Office. They have also, um, gained plenty of inspiration from Apple over the years 😉 MS Excel was originally for Macintosh. MS Word had a GUI version on the Mac several years before it had a GUI version for Windows. And way before then, Apple licensed Microsoft BASIC for their Apple II systems to replace the original BASIC that Apple cofounder Steve Wozniak wrote himself.

Microsoft helped Apple in 1998 by announcing a new Mac version of MS Office and pleding 5 years of continued support for the Mac platform. This was at a time when most folks were moving away from Macs in favor of WinNT systems. Microsoft also bought about $200 Million worth of non-voting shares of Apple stock. This didn't "bail out" Apple, but it really helped the image of both companies.

At the time, Apple's sales were dropping and they were losing money, but they had over a billion dollars of cash in the bank and several more billion in assets. The stock sale helped, but wasn't a huge deciding factor.

I think the best part of the whole deal was Mac Office 98. It was the first really good Mac Microsoft product in a long time. The previous version of Mac Office was sooo horrible that people were avoiding it at all costs. (The previous version was basiclly MS Office 95 for windows wrapped in a GUI runtime engine that allowed it to be used on a Mac... so it was SLOW, gobbled up memory, and looked like a bizzare Windows/Mac mutant.) Mac Office 98 was fast and looked like a "real" Mac app. Yay!!
 
Originally posted by: kylef
Originally posted by: pkme2
🙂My Linux professor really hates Windows and with Apple using Windows XP on its systems...
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What exactly is a "Linux professor"? 🙂
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Ever seen those TV commercials for Video Professor? A Linux Professor is similar, except it's command line text-based and makes fun of us windows losers for not having mad unix skillz.
 
Yes, you've described her to a tee. She has been a system administrator who is based in Unix/Linux for the past 30 yrs and I hate to see her go. Next year, she's retiring.
 
Ah, I guess I've been out of the University circuit for a few too many years. When I was in school, the computer science department was still in love with Sun Sparcstations; Linux was still a toy and not widely used. And I admit, Sun's focus on shared-user environments and network filesystems worked well in that type of environment. But the aversion to commercial software (e.g., Windows) amongst the faculty was amusing. I think they were just scared of what they didn't understand extensively. But I digress.

In any case, kudos to Apple. I had actually forgotten that Apple was actually younger than Microsoft by a year until I read about this 30-year birthday. Granted, in the early years Apple grew much faster. 🙂

Personally, I like to see strong competitors like Apple succeed in the marketplace. Competition helps to move the industry forward, making great technology available to people around the world, empowering them to make their lives more efficient, more rewarding, or more fun. I think everyone in the industry wants to do those things, but when multiple companies have the same goals and desire to succeed, the customers will prevail.

Just think of how far we've come since the days of the Apple I, and how far we will be 30 years from now. Amazing.
 
Originally posted by: halfadder
Microsoft helped Apple in 1998 by announcing a new Mac version of MS Office and pleding 5 years of continued support for the Mac platform. This was at a time when most folks were moving away from Macs in favor of WinNT systems. Microsoft also bought about $200 Million worth of non-voting shares of Apple stock. This didn't "bail out" Apple, but it really helped the image of both companies.
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Sure... Apple was dying. Stock reached a all time low and they just anounced that they lost over a billion dollars in 1997 and their stock lost 82% of it's value since 1991. They were not in a 'happy place'.

If Microsoft didn't act then Apple would more then likely be non-existant now. It's true now, and it's true back then, that Apple doesn't pose much of a threat at all for Microsoft and instead is a nice source for small amount (in MS standards) profits for their Office stuff.
 
Originally posted by: pkme2
Yes, you've described her to a tee. She has been a system administrator who is based in Unix/Linux for the past 30 yrs and I hate to see her go. Next year, she's retiring.
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But what does she teach? What is the syllabus for the class?
 
Originally posted by: stash
Originally posted by: pkme2
Yes, you've described her to a tee. She has been a system administrator who is based in Unix/Linux for the past 30 yrs and I hate to see her go. Next year, she's retiring.
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But what does she teach? What is the syllabus for the class?
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my guess is it has something to do with the linux operating system
 
Well, try not to be combative with your professor. Just a word of advice. 😉

It's sad really that people who claim to be "enlightened educators" can be so narrow-minded when it comes to technology. I don't care whether you're an Apple, Linux, or Microsoft fanatic: if you can't objectively and accurately analyze the strengths and weaknesses of each platform, you have no business instructing others.
 
We have a linux professor here, they teach how to pass the linux+ class, so basically, how to admin fedeora core 2, but not really.
 
Man I wish I could've had classes like that when I was in school. I could've gotten an A for stuff that I was doing on my own time anyway.
 
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