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NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
ATI's 9800 cards are the "power house" GPU's, nVidia's 7800GTX is now out of date! Um....I can't be the only one to see through this M$ and ATI bullsh!t!
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Nope, it's true PC Surgeon.

9800Pros will be $700 now, and 512 GTXs will be $100.. Supply and demand will set the price, and people wanting to be ready for Vista will be sporting R3XX cards.

Shady Days was real, and the "chickens have come home to roost".

Curse my SLI rigs and their primitive ways!
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Not too far from the truth!!!!
 
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RobertR1

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Ati has a good relationship with MS at at the moment and seem to be using it to their benefit.
Why would one not expect Ati to have better support for Microsoft's next OS that has a graphics standard designed by microsoft? Sure, by the time Vista is out, Nvidia will be right there but for the time being it shouldn't be a shocker that Ati has an inside track on Vista and it's graphics foundation.

 
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nts

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Originally posted by: Rollo
3. MS dumped nVidia from the XBox 360 project when they learned nVidia was designing the new chip for the market leader, Playstation
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LOL :laugh:

Maybe you should actually do some research into this because this is far from what happened.

 
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jiffylube1024

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First thing that comes to my mind is that ATI and MS are in bed now with the Xbox360 and NV is their sworn enemy, supporting Sony on the PS3. The NV/MS war over GPU's on the Xbox are also a sore spot for the 'Big Monopoly.'

With that said, if MS says ATI has superior driver support for Vista then who knows? Maybe they've deliberately made strides to help ATI with Vista drivers, and have been deliberately stiff with giving NV information.

With that said, Vista looks to be like any other bloat MS OS; not worth an upgrade at launch until they work out the bugs. If history is any indication, Vista won't hit stride and come into its own until at least SP1.
 
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Nirach

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I was almost tempted to buy vista at one point. Then I remembered that I wouldn't have a hard drive left if I did.

I forsee a dual layer DVD, at least.

Eh, who cares. It'll suck less, regardless of who supplies your graphics power.
 
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Shamrock

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This is coming from Microsoft, the company that delayed a patch for 2 months. And the latest of their antics, is delaying the patch for the .wmf vulnerability, that a 3rd party patched in 2 days, and made it widely available, and M$ politely said to ignore that patch.

Ya, I believe em :\
 
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Munky

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Originally posted by: Fox5
What's with those insane system requirements? XP is already pretty stable, Vista should be faster, not slower. Vista should also be less harddrive dependent than XP was, but the 7200RPM recommendation probably means it will be more so.
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Uhhh... maybe they ported the whole OS to .NET, or coded the whole thing in VB? Damn those lazy developers: "let's have everything be an object, and then every class will have multiple inheritance from every other class." :roll:
 
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tuteja1986

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i wonder what you guys would say if Microsoft recommended NVIDIA drivers. Anyway weren?t you all saying that vista is crap because your beasty sli system isn't vista ready because of the whole DRM ordeal? It?s just a stupid driver support issue and here we all are thinking up crazy stories.

Lets make crazy stories on why no one showed up at AMD FX60 launch party.. only like 6 to 10 people showed up because rest couldn't find the room or was it something eles :?
 
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tuteja1986

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i very doubt that is the reason ...

I don?t think Microsoft is going tell every of its single sector to be NVIDIA biased...
 
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Vista is out already? And it says ATI only on the box? :roll:

The G80 DirectX 10 card is due out this summer, before Vista and probably before ATI's card.

Should make for some interesting verified news.
 
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tuteja1986

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
"whaaa bloooohhhhaaaaa jumpy coooaaa" <---going crazy for nothing
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lol :)
"ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... Its an monkey"
 
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fliguy84

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Originally posted by: tuteja1986
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
"whaaa bloooohhhhaaaaa jumpy coooaaa" <---going crazy for nothing
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lol :)
"ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... Its an monkey"
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just watched king kong?

it's a good movie btw
 
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Tom

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I think it's because ATI has bought into .net for there CCC. Before nvidia which i guess will eventually. Probably this .net stuff will be a big part of Vista.

also, I have a nonpro ATI 9700 I'll trade if someone wants to upgrade their 7800GTX system. ;)

 
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imported_Noob

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Has nothing to do with ATI drivers Otis.

1. nVidia sued MS over XBox
2. nVidia gets royalties on every XBox currently sold, for backwards compatibility
3. MS dumped nVidia from the XBox 360 project when they learned nVidia was designing the new chip for the market leader, Playstation
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QFT. I doubt that it is really anything about their drivers, i think this is just one of the perks you get for partnering with MS. I think everyone in this thread is seeing right through this marketing.

Just to make it clear right now, i think both companies have EXCELLENT driver support nowadays with a slight edge to Nvidia for their superior Linux and x64 drivers (But then again they still have those blocky shadow problems in Far Cry and BF2 so :( )

-Kevin
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ATI cards have the same probelm with the BF2 shadows as well. It's probably just another one of the many flaws with that game. Yet it's extremely addictive :p
 
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Only because ATI agrees to whore your system out with Microsofts .net framework. I installed that garbage along with ATI drivers and box went from using 80MB idle to over 400MB!! Totally rediculous IMO.

As far as Vista? Still using win2K and will probably for several more years until winXP's bugs are worked out then I'll move to that, maybe.
 
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Originally posted by: Zebo
Only because ATI agrees to whore your system out with Microsofts .net framework. I installed that garbage along with ATI drivers and box went from using 80MB idle to over 400MB!! Totally rediculous IMO.

As far as Vista? Still using win2K and will probably for several more years until winXP's bugs are worked out then I'll move to that, maybe.
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Zebo, you took the words right out of my mouth. I was just about to post the very same thing. :beer:
 
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Originally posted by: Zebo
Only because ATI agrees to whore your system out with Microsofts .net framework. I installed that garbage along with ATI drivers and box went from using 80MB idle to over 400MB!! Totally rediculous IMO.

As far as Vista? Still using win2K and will probably for several more years until winXP's bugs are worked out then I'll move to that, maybe.
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QFT.
 
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