Microsoft: Please stop moving the start button!!! My rant

[DougoMan]

So everyone has a theory on Microsoft keeps moving the start button: But I think I finally figured it out. Here is what happened:

Bill gates hired a bunch of really smart engineers. Then when Balmer left they took their retirement payout and Balmer hired a bunch of idiots that could not figure out how Windows works.

But they did figure out how to move buttons! So when a new version of windows comes out, they don't fix the spyware when you install any program problem, they don't fix the hibernate button or other shit that never works, but boy have they gotten good at moving shit around that doesn't need to be moved.

Anyway I have too much time on my hand and filmed a rant and put it on YouTube. None of my friends care or know about Microsoft though so I'm mad nobody saw it!

So check it out if you want. I think it's hella funny. I'd like to hear what you guys think. I swear this is not part of a diabolical plan to start spamming AnandTech with my videos. I've been on this forum forum 10 years. Never posted a video. Never will again. So hope I can post just one that I think you would all enjoy.

https://youtu.be/aP2KDCkU0Fc

 

[quikah]

?? The start button hasn't moved since windows 95. Still in the lower left.

 

[sweenish]

Not a great video. Didn't make it 3 minutes. Skipping gaps in history, baseless assumptions, and this button thing is flat out wrong.

With that said, practice will improve the overall quality. I may not agree with your viewpoints, but I won't drop a thumbs down because of that.

 

[MongGrel]

?? The start button hasn't moved since windows 95. Still in the lower left.

+1

 

[us3rnotfound]

My rant with the Start button in particular is now when I do help someone over the phone, I have to say go to the button with the Windows icon in the lower left after they don't understand when I tell them go to Start. Actually, then after they do apparently get the Start menu up, I have to walk them through a maze to get to the same shit since XP days, like the Control Panel, which can be reached via the Start + x or right-click-on-start-button -pullup-menu, and then go to Control Panel (not Settings, the Tablet looking configuration utility).

But no I love helping people use Windows X.

 

[master_shake_]

what's wrong with pressing the windows button on your keyboard?

how many are still made without them?

 

[cubby1223]

My rant with the Start button in particular is now when I do help someone over the phone, I have to say go to the button with the Windows icon in the lower left after they don't understand when I tell them go to Start. Actually, then after they do apparently get the Start menu up, I have to walk them through a maze to get to the same shit since XP days, like the Control Panel, which can be reached via the Start + x or right-click-on-start-button -pullup-menu, and then go to Control Panel (not Settings, the Tablet looking configuration utility).

But no I love helping people use Windows X.

To get to the control panel in Windows 7:
1) Open start menu
2) click on control panel

To get to the control panel in Windows 10:
1) open start menu (the windows icon in the lower-left)
2) click on "Settings"
3) Click on "Devices"
4) Scroll to the bottom and click on "Open Devices and Printers"
5) click on "Control Panel" in the navigation bar at the top


At least Windows has a control panel. OSX's control panel is "Does your hardware/software work the way you want it to? Yes? Good, keep buying more Apple products! No? Too bad, options make operating computers confusing, the problem is that you need things to operate differently - stop needing that and learn to live with what Apple provides."

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Adapt.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Windows 10 with Classic Shell: click on start menu then mouse up to control panel which will expand if set to menu rather than link and there it is.

 

[LPCTech]

Windows 10 is very accessible. The start or windows button is in the lower left as usual and you can simply right click it and then click control panel or programs and features or device manager or cmd prompt or powershell. I have no patience for people who cant adapt to minor minor change. You can get almost anywhere in 2 clicks. But you'd have to learn something new. How did this thread even get posted nothing has moved lol.

 

[quikah]

To get to the control panel in Windows 10:
1) open start menu (the windows icon in the lower-left)
2) click on "Settings"
3) Click on "Devices"
4) Scroll to the bottom and click on "Open Devices and Printers"
5) click on "Control Panel" in the navigation bar at the top

OR

1) Right click Start
2) Select Control Panel

Really you should open the search/Cortana and just type the setting you need, it usually opens points to the right thing I need.

 

[Elixer]

The right click menu over the windows icon has been there since win 8, and has all the main things that people need.
Too bad MS don't tell people about it with their silly "hi" screens they show.

OP, sorry, but, couldn't watch more than 30 secs of it, and that was with skipping things around. You just talk and move your hands, instead of showing people what you are talking about.
Not lucid at all.
I would take that down, redo it with visuals of what you are ranting about (even though the 'start' button hasn't moved).

 

[Red Squirrel]

TIL: The start button moved.

Though I hate the newer start menus. 7 set to classic mode is ok, then anything after that is pure garbage. The issue with MS is that they change stuff just for the sake of change. I'd say they had it perfected at windows 2000 and should have left stuff alone from there. Enhance stuff under the hood and leave the GUI alone. You don't see car makers trying to get rid of the steering wheel or gas pedals and replacing them with something else.

 

[Ketchup]

Windows still has a start menu. It has never moved. It also has a start screen, going on 4 years now. Considering that it's probably going stay the same for a decade or more, I'll adjust to to minor changes. But I'm sure as long as Windows continues to make something look a certain way, somebody will make an app that makes it appear the same way it did 20 years ago.

 

[ElFenix]

yup, been in the same place forever.

what i can't stand is that they've decided to bury control panel items, first into groups, then started splitting things up for no reason (what was wrong with tabs?), then half-assed a tablety settings menu that controls some stuff while the control panel is still there to control other stuff.

 

[mikeymikec]

For customers I pin the Control Panel to the Start menu.

 

[JimmiG]

?? The start button hasn't moved since windows 95. Still in the lower left.

Well, it vanished completely in Windows 8.0...

Also it moved by one pixel in Windows XP. In Win 9x, ME and 2000, it wasn't *quite* in the lower left corner but one pixel from the edge, which goes against Fitts's law and made it a much harder target to hit. They finally fixed this in XP.