I prefer logitech, but I suggest you go to a store and feel how each joystick feels in your hand. Logitech used to make a Wingman Force, now they make a Wingman Force 3D. I liked the original Wingman Force because it used cables instead of plastic gears so the forces were stronger and also the buttons were rubberized instead of plastic so they felt better. I also liked the old hat switch much better. The new one is much cheaper though. Also be sure to check what bundled games come with each if you see one you like. I would recommend checking ebay or something to find the old Wingman Force, otherwise go to a store like Best Buy and feel for yourself.