Microsoft needs to burn in hell and people need to adopt linux and make it the standard!!!

[brxndxn]

OKay.. I've always bitched about how I hate product activation, unique serial numbers, cd requirements, and basically everything else that tries to fight piracy by making products less efficient or entirely unusable.

I just spent the last four hours getting around some stupid Windows XP copy protection crap (controls.man error) when I was trying to use a burned cd to install a fresh XP Pro edition on my Toshiba laptop. I didn't want to use the Restore cds because they put all this Toshiba crap on Windows XP and I don't want it. So, I figured I could use a burned cd to install XP Pro (which is what I own - and indicated by a sticker right on the laptop) so that I don't get any of the bullsheit. Also, I wanted to go without the Restore cds so that I could format my hard drive how I would like so that I could install Redhat linux on it also.

So I get to the part where it says "Your Product Key"... Type the Volume License Product Key below:.. so I type the product key on the sticker on my laptop and it says it's invalid!! It's a Toshiba laptop with a Microsoft sticker - I highly doubt it's invalid. God, I hate this bullsheit. I'm so damn frustrated. I'd even use the restore cds - but they're at my parents' house 200 miles away.

Who cares if it was a volume cd or something like that? IT IS A VALID XP PRO KEY AND XP PRO IS REJECTING IT. I can't wait until I learn enough about linux to live entirely without Windows.

 

[helpme]

It might be for the OEM ver only. Are you using the non activiating XP version, or the regular one that has activation? I don't believe the keys are interchangable between the three for piracy reasons.

 

[spanky]

werd

 

[helpme]

Heh, at work I only use windows if I have to :/

 

[IGBT]

Yup..ManDrake here I come. I'am waiting for the hardware detection to get a little bit better in M.Drake then I'll make the jump. No more windoze for me. I have w98se but that's hopefuly the last microsoft op.sys.I ever buy. Not intrested in XPee.

 

[vegetation]

Well, for server environments, the battle has already been won. Winblows servers are a joke. Only need to focus on the client end now.

 

[murphy55d]

Sounds like you're trying to use an OEM serial with a corporate burned CD... doesn't work.

 

[SSP]

I use both xp and Mandrake. I just made the jump and trying to go with out windows. Mandrake 8.2 is as easy to install as XP. I had no hardware conflicts, or drivers that i needed too download. Give it a try! Its free!

 

[LordThing]

Amen! I am so sick and tired of all this WPA/DCMA/RIAA bullcrap! Probably as soon as SP1 comes out for XP, I am switching my computer back to dual boot with either Mandrake 9, RedHat 7.x, or Lycoris as my main partition and a win98se as a backup for gaming.

Sigh

 

[Jumpem]

Hmm, I guess I'm the only Bill Gates/Microsoft fan in the room? I use Unix at school and don't really care for it. Maybe I'm just not that used to it, but when I'm using it all I can think about is how much easier and faster I could do the same thing on Windows.

 

[Ameesh]

if you hate microsoft soo much, install linux or bsd and use that. You're never gonna get better at linux without using it.

 

[SaltBoy]

If you hate Microsoft that much, I suggest you completely get rid of Windows on your box and install Linux. No dual boot whatsoever -- just Linux on your box.

There, feel better?

/edit Heh... I feel as if I plagarized everything that Ameesh just said...

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: SaltBoy
If you hate Microsoft that much, I suggest you completely get rid of Windows on your box and install Linux. No dual boot whatsoever -- just Linux on your box.

There, feel better?

/edit Heh... I feel as if I plagarized everything that Ameesh just said...

lol

 

I can't wait until I learn enough about linux to live entirely without Windows.

Everyone says that, then they install a Linux GUI and are like WTF???

I have no love for MS, but Linux is nowhere near coming close to touching them as a workstation. Mac OS X on the other hand

 

[Linflas]

Actually he does make a good point. As far as I am concerned any system I buy should come with a base OS install CD or give me the option to obtain one if I so desire. There is no reason I should be required to use a restore CD with all the extra software on it to get my system up and running if that is my preference.

 

[Maleficus]

Using linux made me appreciate windows a thousand times more.

I tried both RedHat 7.2 and Mandrake 8.2

Both were very difficult to use for me although I preferred RedHat over Mandrake I still ultimately fell back to windows 2000.

 

[IcemanJer]

Originally posted by: dwell

I can't wait until I learn enough about linux to live entirely without Windows.

Everyone says that, then they install a Linux GUI and are like WTF???

no no, you just have to install KDE 3.0

 

[ViRGE]

How do you think Microsoft should be in hell? Legally, Microsoft is a single legal entity, and almost a person on its own. But how do you send a company to hell? Are we going to move the entire Microsoft campus underground, and let Satan torture the building and the other assets that form the company? Or are we going to send people that work for the company down there. If we're fair, we'll send down all its employees. But how do you explain sending down more than 50,000 people, probably half of which are geeks; Satan may be immortal, but geeks can be just as anoying to him as they are to us. My advice, let Microsoft stay and save poor Satan from the geeks.

 

[iamwiz82]

i'm not following your logic. Of course an OEM key wont work in Non-OEM XP! It has been like that since Windows 98!

 

[Bulk Beef]

Originally posted by: Linflas
Actually he does make a good point. As far as I am concerned any system I buy should come with a base OS install CD or give me the option to obtain one if I so desire. There is no reason I should be required to use a restore CD with all the extra software on it to get my system up and running if that is my preference.

Werd. System restore discs blow.

 

no no, you just have to install KDE 3.0

I am running Ximian Gnome on my notebook at work, still yuck. Next downtime I will get KDE 3.0. Don't get me wrong, I like Linux for server stuff. But for workstation I am yet to be wowed.

Too bad Mac hardware is too expensive. OS X jagwire is teh win.

 

[kh3443]

I feel your pain. At work I'm trying to do a Standard Install with Ghost imaging. But XP does not let this happen so easily. Where their licensing and hardware detection bullsh*t, plus OEM and Action pack licensing are all mixed up. I have to use Sysprep.exe and repair HAL and some bunch of other stuff to get this working. Dude.. Microsoft got us by the throats.

 

[IcemanJer]

Originally posted by: dwell

no no, you just have to install KDE 3.0

I am running Ximian Gnome on my notebook at work, still yuck. Next downtime I will get KDE 3.0. Don't get me wrong, I like Linux for server stuff. But for workstation I am yet to be wowed.

Too bad Mac hardware is too expensive. OS X jagwire is teh win.

Yup, deeefinately get KDE, you'll like it.
Yeah, I'd love to get my hands on the Jag if the Ti-book ain't so damn expensive.. :frown:

 

[ggavinmoss]

Originally posted by: sward666

Originally posted by: Linflas
Actually he does make a good point. As far as I am concerned any system I buy should come with a base OS install CD or give me the option to obtain one if I so desire. There is no reason I should be required to use a restore CD with all the extra software on it to get my system up and running if that is my preference.

Werd. System restore discs blow.

Amen to that, but it's Toshiba's fault (or whichever manufacturer in question), not Microsoft's.

-geoff