Microsoft just sent me Windows Server 2003 - Tell me what I do with this on my home PC?

[DietDrThunder]

I'm running Windows 98 SE on my home PC, can I use this as a replacement OS?

 

[spyordie007]

dont do anything with it on your desktop, run Windows XP Pro on your desktop and than get yourself a box to act as a dedicated server for Windows 2003 server.

 

[CTho9305]

Originally posted by: spyordie007
dont do anything with it on your desktop, run Windows XP Pro on your desktop and than get yourself a box to act as a dedicated server for Windows 2003 server.

Server OSes are for servers, or wannabe-l33t people (like ricers for cars, but computer nerds). Stick to a desktop OS.

 

[drag]

Originally posted by: CTho9305

Originally posted by: spyordie007
dont do anything with it on your desktop, run Windows XP Pro on your desktop and than get yourself a box to act as a dedicated server for Windows 2003 server.

Server OSes are for servers, or wannabe-l33t people (like ricers for cars, but computer nerds). Stick to a desktop OS.

Or maybe some people you just think that are wannabe-l33t are actually computer professionals that go out of their way to examine and test out new technologies. If you don't spend a great deal of your time examining and understand what is new and how things work on your own time you find out that you quickly become obsolete in the workplace.

 

[CTho9305]

Originally posted by: drag

Originally posted by: CTho9305

Originally posted by: spyordie007
dont do anything with it on your desktop, run Windows XP Pro on your desktop and than get yourself a box to act as a dedicated server for Windows 2003 server.

Server OSes are for servers, or wannabe-l33t people (like ricers for cars, but computer nerds). Stick to a desktop OS.

Or maybe some people you just think that are wannabe-l33t are actually computer professionals that go out of their way to examine and test out new technologies. If you don't spend a great deal of your time examining and understand what is new and how things work on your own time you find out that you quickly become obsolete in the workplace.

Correct. Now, given that he doesn't know what it is, and if he should use it, I'd hope he's not a computer professional examining new technology. Also, given that he runs win98, it doesn't seem like he is that kind of person. Quoting you, from another thread:

However definately no new patches or anything (unless something completely horrible happens). Win98 is dead. Anybody using it should move on to bigger and better things.

In general, most of the Windows Server 2003 threads here ask stupid questions that a professional would know the answer to (or would at least know how to find an answer). <- strange grammar, probably incorrect

I would suspect professionals tell their boss to give them a test setup at work to see if they should migrate, and if so, what issues to expect.

 

[spyordie007]

I would suspect professionals tell their boss to give them a test setup at work to see if they should migrate, and if so, what issues to expect.

Case in point: We plan on slowly migrating to 2K3 server beginning early next year, I have several test servers setup where I have been playing with 2K3 migration, IIS6, etc. I've been testing for about 4 months now and still havent gone production...

EDIT: and I generally dont have to buy machines for testing, part of our replacement cycle is dropping the aging servers onto our test network

-Spy

 

[JonnyBlaze]

if a server os's were for servers and thats it then why would MS have these options

for configuring 2003, i would change those 2 settings i show in that pic and you need to enable sound in the control panel and turn on graphics acceleration in the advanced display properties.

JB

 

[spyordie007]

Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
if a server os's were for servers and thats it then why would MS have these options

for configuring 2003, i would change those 2 settings i show in that pic and you need to enable sound in the control panel and turn on graphics acceleration in the advanced display properties.

JB

What if you were using it as an application or terminal server?

 

[DaCurryman]

Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
if a server os's were for servers and thats it then why would MS have these options

for configuring 2003, i would change those 2 settings i show in that pic and you need to enable sound in the control panel and turn on graphics acceleration in the advanced display properties.

JB

For some reason, the first thing I noticed was the link for "Bipolar Disorder" on the top. As for Win2k3 server. I plan on using it (once I can get my hands on a cheap/free copy), but for a server/HTPC that I plan on building. For desktops, I would stick with XP.

 

[CTho9305]

Originally posted by: spyordie007

Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
if a server os's were for servers and thats it then why would MS have these options

for configuring 2003, i would change those 2 settings i show in that pic and you need to enable sound in the control panel and turn on graphics acceleration in the advanced display properties.

JB

What if you were using it as an application or terminal server?

Or you wanted SETI to run faster? .

 

[spyordie007]

but I thought you could get a higher FPS in counterstrike by setting it for background services?!?!


Woot!

 

[JonnyBlaze]

all im saying is it runs almost any app i throw at it.i use programs like autocad, invetor and solodworks for work and they all run fine. any games i have played have worked except need for speed underground. thats the olny app that hasnt ran on 2k3. all at the same time i run a web,dhcp,dns (forwarding only), and domain server.

people should be so adament that your shouldnt run it as a desktop os unless they have tried it.

JB

 

[spyordie007]

I have "tried" it, I've run it for many hours on various hardware configurations and I can tell you I certainly wouldnt run games on a DC. DHCP I can understand, DNS forwarding okay, but Active Directory?

BTW how does partition magic work on it? yeah, and how about norton anti-virus? there are plenty of other applications that wont run on it either...

-Spy

 

[djdrastic]

Put in CD , install , convert to NTFS

 

[ntrights]

afaik partition magic dosent work on any server os except workstation's such as nt4 workstation, windows 2000 and windows 2003 workstation.

Norton antivirus corporate edition supports windows 2003 server. same thing here norton antivirus pro cannot be installed in windows 2000 server.

2k3 is great when it comes to flexibility and scalibility. one of the beutys of it is that you can basically run it as you want, desktop workstation, headless server or in mixed duty enviroment serving both as a server and traditionall desktop.

 

[1966]

How to convert your Windows Server 2003... to a Workstation!

 

[DietDrThunder]

Thanks 1966, this is the kind of information I was looking for.

 

[CTho9305]

Originally posted by: 1966
How to convert your Windows Server 2003... to a Workstation!

...and end up with a $1000 copy of Windows XP Pro! Amazing! I should write an article on how to turn 18-wheelers into pickup trucks.

 

[spyordie007]

2k3 is great when it comes to flexibility and scalibility. one of the beutys of it is that you can basically run it as you want, desktop workstation, headless server or in mixed duty enviroment serving both as a server and traditionall desktop.

Now I was willing to pretend to look the other way and assume people are using the evaluation copy of Windows 2003 Server on their desktop, however if that's the case I highly doubt you have the CALs/DALs required to use it to serve to any more clients than you would with XP Pro.

Can anyone come up with a serious, legitimate, logical and legal reason to run 2003 Server on a desktop?

 

[ntrights]

Now I was willing to pretend to look the other way and assume people are using the evaluation copy of Windows 2003 Server on their desktop, however if that's the case I highly doubt you have the CALs or DALs require to use it to serve to any more clients than you would with XP Pro.

Can anyone come up with a serious, legitimate, legal reason to run 2003 Server on a desktop?

With windows 2003 server you can do evrything that a windows desktop os does and on top of that you can learn how a server os works. isn't this what this forum is all about - learning?

 

[spyordie007]

Originally posted by: ntrights

Now I was willing to pretend to look the other way and assume people are using the evaluation copy of Windows 2003 Server on their desktop, however if that's the case I highly doubt you have the CALs or DALs require to use it to serve to any more clients than you would with XP Pro.

Can anyone come up with a serious, legitimate, legal reason to run 2003 Server on a desktop?

With windows 2003 server you can do evrything that a windows desktop os does and on top of that you can learn how a server os works. isn't this what this forum is all about - learning?

I can understand the desire to learn Windows 2003 server, however "hacking" it up to act like Windows XP Pro. is not going to accomplish that.

If you really want to learn Windows 2003 Server than you need a seperate piece of hardware to run it on and than you need to connect to it with your Windows XP/2K box(es) so you can learn how the services work and how it responds to clients (which is after all the purpose of a server).

-Spy

 

[ntrights]

Originally posted by: spyordie007

Originally posted by: ntrights

Now I was willing to pretend to look the other way and assume people are using the evaluation copy of Windows 2003 Server on their desktop, however if that's the case I highly doubt you have the CALs or DALs require to use it to serve to any more clients than you would with XP Pro.

Can anyone come up with a serious, legitimate, legal reason to run 2003 Server on a desktop?

With windows 2003 server you can do evrything that a windows desktop os does and on top of that you can learn how a server os works. isn't this what this forum is all about - learning?

I can understand the desire to learn Windows 2003 server, however "hacking" it up to act like Windows XP Pro. is not going to accomplish that.

If you really want to learn Windows 2003 Server than you need a seperate piece of hardware to run it on and than you need to connect to it with your Windows XP/2K box(es) so you can learn how the services work and how it responds to clients (which is after all the purpose of a server).

-Spy

You seem to have a beta or a evalution copy of Windows 2003 Server as there is no hacking up to XP-pro required with the official Windows 2003 Server.

 

[JonnyBlaze]

nope. no hacking. just enable the video & sound acceleration and thats about it. i dont understand why so many people think its not a good idea to use 2k3. i happen to think its the best of the windows os's.


JB

 

[spyordie007]

I'm not sure if you're joking with your response or not; I was referring to these guides that show you how to use Windows 2003 Server as a workstation OS. Converting Windows 2003 Server to act like a workstation it (basically) turns it into Windows XP Pro.

Using Windows 2003 server as a Workstation will teach you how to run Windows XP Pro. as a workstation, it will not teach you how to run Windows 2003 Server as a Server. The real learning to be gained with running Windows 2003 server is to setup its services and learn about connecting to them with clients, you cannot do this if you are running it as a desktop OS.

 

[spyordie007]

Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
nope. no hacking. just enable the video & sound acceleration and thats about it. i dont understand why so many people think its not a good idea to use 2k3. i happen to think its the best of the windows os's.


JB

I'm not refering to installig directx and setting it to hardware accelrate, I'm reffering to the guide that was posted earlier that goes through using gpedit to disable the shutdown tracker, installing xutheme to display windows xp themes, enabling CD burning, enabling WIA, etc. Not to mention some of the other guides that go through replacing some of the system files with their XP counterparts so that it will run applications such as NAV and partition magic.

If you dont mind my asking JB where did you get your copy of Windows 2003 Server? What version is it? And did you decide to opt for CALs or DALs for licensing?

-Spy