Microsoft Cutting 18K jobs (sorry Nokia)

[skimple]

Microsoft to cut over 18,000 jobs over the next year, mostly at Nokia:

http://www.foxbusiness.com/industri...t-to-eliminate-up-to-18k-jobs-over-next-year/

"The first round of cuts will hit the Nokia Devices and Services unit, which will account for a loss of 12,500 jobs for professional and factory workers. "

 

[Drako]

Why does Microsoft hate Finland? 🙁

 

[Jimzz]

Damm that's a lot more than early reports said.

 

[Markbnj]

Has Windows Phone gotten any penetration at all? I stopped paying attention because I hated the tiled interface and the tie-ins to Windows 8 so much.

 

[Hugo Drax]

#1 Spend billions buying company.
#2 spend billions dismantling company, layoff the lifeblood of the company.
#3 profit?


What exactly did Microsoft gain by buying nokia?

 

[Vdubchaos]

#1 Spend billions buying company.
#2 spend billions dismantling company, layoff the lifeblood of the company.
#3 profit?


What exactly did Microsoft gain by buying nokia?

What did they gain by buying Skype?

hehe

Clearly, they need some drug testing for upper management positions.

I love their push for Smartphone/tablet market.......way to follow the herd there MS.

Meanwhile, they screwed up their OS/PC market with Tablet crap as well.

They are hard at work to try to top Apple, some say that's a great thing, I say that's horrible.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Has Windows Phone gotten any penetration at all? I stopped paying attention because I hated the tiled interface and the tie-ins to Windows 8 so much.

They were doing decently well for a while, but MS has fully given up on the high and mid end sector. They're going for the low end market, which is going to be a tough sell considering the renewed Google push into this market.

 

[preslove]

#1 Spend billions buying company.
#2 spend billions dismantling company, layoff the lifeblood of the company.
#3 profit?


What exactly did Microsoft gain by buying nokia?

Microsoft's management structure has been in disarray since Ballmer took over. Too many units competing against each other and stupid acquisitions.

 

[Vdubchaos]

Microsoft's management structure has been in disarray since Ballmer took over. Too many units competing against each other and stupid acquisitions.

You can say that for just about any major Corp....

Most are too big for their own good.

 

[rudder]

Has Windows Phone gotten any penetration at all? I stopped paying attention because I hated the tiled interface and the tie-ins to Windows 8 so much.

After two years of owning a windows phone I can say no. The app store still sucks. I will be getting an android phone next.

 

[shortylickens]

After two years of owning a windows phone I can say no. The app store still sucks. I will be getting an android phone next.

I did WP7 for a year and it wasnt so bad. But then I got a Note 2 and it was so damn awesome I never wanted anything else.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Shares jumped 3% after the news.

 

[Vdubchaos]

Shares jumped 3% after the news.

As if Share value has any REAL value or meaning.

 

[rh71]

As if Share value has any REAL value or meaning.

It doesn't, and that's why it should be called gambling instead of investing. No rhyme or reason, otherwise everybody would be rich.

 

[desura]

Seems really dumb to buy a company and then fire all of the people.

The value of Nokia is in its people, seriously. Otherwise, they didn't have the marketshare to make it worthwhile.

Why buy at all if you're just going to fire everyone?

FWIW, I do like Windows Phone.

 

[PlanetJosh]

Maybe they thought Nokia could help lift their stock to amazing highs with hot smart phones like Apple and their iPhones and $700+ price per share when it peaked.

 

[preslove]

You can say that for just about any major Corp....

Most are too big for their own good.

It really isn't comparable to any other company. Windows and Office have printed so much money with relatively low cost that this has allowed microsoft to make mistake after mistake in acquisitions, while also setting up a corporate structure where the divisions compete against each other instead of against other companies.

 

[poofyhairguy]

What exactly did Microsoft gain by buying nokia?

The brand. That way international consumers are less wary about their hardware products.

 

[bradley]

After five months as CEO, Satya Nadella only has some vague 3100 word company memo about "reinventing productivity" to show for it.

Yet another visionless dude who is going to have Microsoft continue treading water, except now he'll include the business model of raiding companies for profit. The true innovators of Microsoft continue to be ignored for the gutless spineless wonders who are proficient in corporate speak.

 

[Hugo Drax]

Microsoft is a disaster, Apple is smart they choose to stick to the consumer market and avoid trying to fight the battle of trying to win the enterprise market.

You would think Microsoft would be smart enough to focus on the enterprise market and selling software like office to all operating systems (Linux etc..) And sell Visual studio to OSX/Linux as well. That would let them establish a beach head on OSX/Linux as people who are accustomed to writing in VS could compile software that would run on OS X etc...

They could make lots of money but instead they are running around like chickens with their heads cut off. They are still thinking in 1990s Windows everywhere strategy and trying to figure out how to stick windows in more places. Instead of trying to stick the Microsoft DNA into all operating systems, make money selling dev/office and backend software + services to everyone and become OS Agnostic.

 

[PingviN]

Why buy at all if you're just going to fire everyone?

Hardly everyone.

 

[Imp]

Obvious this was coming... Sucks for the fired.

 

[poofyhairguy]

After five months as CEO, Satya Nadella only has some vague 3100 word company memo about "reinventing productivity" to show for it.

Yet another visionless dude who is going to have Microsoft continue treading water, except now he'll include the business model of raiding companies for profit.

Honestly I think that is the way to go. Ballmer went after consumers and failed. Better round the wagons on enterprise before Apple and IBM go after that cash cow.

 

[DesiPower]

Maybe its just and excuse to lay off in 1st world countries and hire in 3rd world...

 

[preslove]

The brand. That way international consumers are less wary about their hardware products.

Incorrect. They bought nokia because ballmer was a terrible ceo with no idea how to grow microsoft.

Microsoft is a disaster, Apple is smart they choose to stick to the consumer market and avoid trying to fight the battle of trying to win the enterprise market.

You would think Microsoft would be smart enough to focus on the enterprise market and selling software like office to all operating systems (Linux etc..) And sell Visual studio to OSX/Linux as well. That would let them establish a beach head on OSX/Linux as people who are accustomed to writing in VS could compile software that would run on OS X etc...

They could make lots of money but instead they are running around like chickens with their heads cut off. They are still thinking in 1990s Windows everywhere strategy and trying to figure out how to stick windows in more places. Instead of trying to stick the Microsoft DNA into all operating systems, make money selling dev/office and backend software + services to everyone and become OS Agnostic.

Uh... that's what they're doing. The guy has only been there a couple of months and prepping for this round of layoffs and refocusing on enterprise is probably what he's been doing during that time.