Micke Huckabee just lost all crediblity with me.

[techs]

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/in...om.PressRelease&ID=260

?The disgraceful act of the leftist organization, moveon.org, has marked a new low watermark in American discourse. To accuse a patriotic, honorable, and highly decorated soldier like General David Petraeus of treason by intimating that he had betrayed his duty, his honor, and his country is appalling.


http://www.topix.net/state/ar-...ight-to-voice-opinions

Huckabee Defends Limbaugh's Right to Voice Opinions
Former Governor Mike Huckabee says Rush Limbaugh has the right to say whatever he might want, and members of Congress have more important things to concern themselves with. via KATV Little Rock



You sir, Mr. Huckabee, have just proven what a hypocrite you are.

 

[Queasy]

I don't see where Huckabee was calling for Congress to act on the MoveOn.org ad.

The first quote has to do with Huckabee's opinion of the MoveOn.org ad. The second quote has to do with Congress trying censure/silence Limbaugh.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Queasy
I don't see where Huckabee was calling for Congress to act on the MoveOn.org ad.

The first quote has to do with Huckabee's opinion of the MoveOn.org ad. The second quote has to do with Congress trying censure/silence Limbaugh.

Guess you didn't click the link and read the rest FROM HUCKABEES OWN WEBSITE:

Huckabee:
?I call on every candidate for President, whether Democrat or Republican, to join in a condemnation of this outrageous insult to our military. The fact that such an abuse of free speech is legal doesn?t make it right or responsible.

Then ol' huck voted for the condemnation.

I guess Huck is only against left wing organizations slandering our military.

 

[ElFenix]

like he had any credibility with you.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
like he had any credibility with you.

Exactly.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
like he had any credibility with you.

Too bad, I'm sure Mike Huckabee was thinking that he could beat Billary if only the resident leftist partisan hacks from AT would only vote for him.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
like he had any credibility with you.

I actually like the guy. He seemed to at least be somewhat Republican. But now I see his is a neo-con propagandist.
Sad.
There are so few Republicans left.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Queasy
I don't see where Huckabee was calling for Congress to act on the MoveOn.org ad.

The first quote has to do with Huckabee's opinion of the MoveOn.org ad. The second quote has to do with Congress trying censure/silence Limbaugh.

Guess you didn't click the link and read the rest FROM HUCKABEES OWN WEBSITE:

Huckabee:
?I call on every candidate for President, whether Democrat or Republican, to join in a condemnation of this outrageous insult to our military. The fact that such an abuse of free speech is legal doesn?t make it right or responsible.

Then ol' huck voted for the condemnation.

I guess Huck is only against left wing organizations slandering our military.

Your mistaking a vocal condemnation with a legislation to silence someone's first amendment right to free speech.

BTW, Huckabee can't vote for anything. He's a Governor. Not a legislator.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Queasy
I don't see where Huckabee was calling for Congress to act on the MoveOn.org ad.

The first quote has to do with Huckabee's opinion of the MoveOn.org ad. The second quote has to do with Congress trying censure/silence Limbaugh.

Guess you didn't click the link and read the rest FROM HUCKABEES OWN WEBSITE:

Huckabee:
?I call on every candidate for President, whether Democrat or Republican, to join in a condemnation of this outrageous insult to our military. The fact that such an abuse of free speech is legal doesn?t make it right or responsible.

Then ol' huck voted for the condemnation.

I guess Huck is only against left wing organizations slandering our military.

Your mistaking a vocal condemnation with a legislation to silence someone's first amendment right to free speech.

BTW, Huckabee can't vote for anything. He's a Governor. Not a legislator.

You are right about the voting. I should have said supported it. But have you confused the moveon.orgs right of free speech with Rush Limbaughs right of free speech?

 

[HeXploiT]

I have nothing personally against Huckabee but the man is a tool.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Queasy
I don't see where Huckabee was calling for Congress to act on the MoveOn.org ad.

The first quote has to do with Huckabee's opinion of the MoveOn.org ad. The second quote has to do with Congress trying censure/silence Limbaugh.

Guess you didn't click the link and read the rest FROM HUCKABEES OWN WEBSITE:

Huckabee:
?I call on every candidate for President, whether Democrat or Republican, to join in a condemnation of this outrageous insult to our military. The fact that such an abuse of free speech is legal doesn?t make it right or responsible.

Then ol' huck voted for the condemnation.

I guess Huck is only against left wing organizations slandering our military.

Your mistaking a vocal condemnation with a legislation to silence someone's first amendment right to free speech.

BTW, Huckabee can't vote for anything. He's a Governor. Not a legislator.

You are right about the voting. I should have said supported it. But have you confused the moveon.orgs right of free speech with Rush Limbaughs right of free speech?

How is what Huckabee did any different from what happens on this forum every day? He disagreed with what MoveOn.org said in the ad. He called them out on it and said he didn't like it. He didn't call for them to be silenced. He didn't call for them to be shut down. Huckabee used his right of free speech to disagree with the content of MoveOn.orgs free speech.

The First Amendment Right to Free Speech does not mean freedom from criticism.

Now compare that with Congress trying to pass legislation to silence Limbaugh.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Queasy
The First Amendment Right to Free Speech does not mean freedom from criticism.

It does, if you are a liberal. Free Speech is the first thing they shout, but that only applies if they *agree* with said speech. Otherwise, you should be condemned and silenced.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Queasy
I don't see where Huckabee was calling for Congress to act on the MoveOn.org ad.

The first quote has to do with Huckabee's opinion of the MoveOn.org ad. The second quote has to do with Congress trying censure/silence Limbaugh.

Guess you didn't click the link and read the rest FROM HUCKABEES OWN WEBSITE:

Huckabee:
?I call on every candidate for President, whether Democrat or Republican, to join in a condemnation of this outrageous insult to our military. The fact that such an abuse of free speech is legal doesn?t make it right or responsible.

Then ol' huck voted for the condemnation.

I guess Huck is only against left wing organizations slandering our military.

Your mistaking a vocal condemnation with a legislation to silence someone's first amendment right to free speech.

BTW, Huckabee can't vote for anything. He's a Governor. Not a legislator.

You are right about the voting. I should have said supported it. But have you confused the moveon.orgs right of free speech with Rush Limbaughs right of free speech?

How is what Huckabee did any different from what happens on this forum every day? He disagreed with what MoveOn.org said in the ad. He called them out on it and said he didn't like it. He didn't call for them to be silenced. He didn't call for them to be shut down. Huckabee used his right of free speech to disagree with the content of MoveOn.orgs free speech.

The First Amendment Right to Free Speech does not mean freedom from criticism.

Now compare that with Congress trying to pass legislation to silence Limbaugh.

I can't wait for Huckabee to be the V.P. candidate. His statement will come back to haunt him..

 

[Moonbeam]

Well well well, 'if something isn't legal doesn't make it right'? If it doesn't make it right one would almost have to think it doesn't make it wrong.

So isn't this guy just stating his opinion about who could be condemned and who shouldn't. Isn't he imposing, or trying to impose his moral authority, not based on law, on the rest of us? And where does that moral authority come from? How is it that the right has one moral authority and the left another?

I bet you would rather not think about it. It's much more fun to be outraged and vent then question the fact that your moral authority may just be a program somebody set to 'running'.

 

[imported_Shivetya]

ooh, look Techs has found another person who won't value his opinion.

Imagine all the threads it will take Techs to name all the people who don't give a rats ass what he says.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Queasy
The First Amendment Right to Free Speech does not mean freedom from criticism.

It does, if you are a liberal. Free Speech is the first thing they shout, but that only applies if they *agree* with said speech. Otherwise, you should be condemned and silenced.

This thread seems to indicate Reps aren't above the same tactic. Making insulting statements is protected by free speech. Criticizing those making insulting statements is also protected by free speech. I don't see how this is a partisan issue.

And I also like Huckabee. I'm not voting for him, but if I had planned to, this certainly wouldn't have changed my mind. This is perhaps the most mild of the smear tactics that will arise in the next 13 months. Everyone's gonna have to learn to thicken up their indignation cuz at this rate you'll run out.

 

[jackschmittusa]

1) "betray us" was a play on words. Only the incredibly dense think they called him a traitor. There are of course, a number of idiots that have made a mountain out of a mole hill to enrage these dense people. I am amazed that this thing did not blow over in 2 days.

2) Moveon. org is not the official mouthpiece of the Democratic party. I am saddened that so many Democrats trembled and whimpered during this whole debacle. They should have had the balls to laugh at the jerks who claimed that the ad somehow contaminated the Democratic party.

3) Rush has made a living out of making mountains out of mole hills. I think he is another jerk, but so what? He is not the official mouthpiece for the Republican party. Ann Coulter can say more stupid, disgusting things in an hour that the sum total of all that Moveon has ever done. I think of her in much more colorful terms than simply a jerk, but again, so what?

4) It's a free country (supposed to be anyway). So let them all say what they want. To freakout over something put out by an individual or organization that is not a component of a party is ignorant and foolish. To feel the need to defend against artificial "guilt by association" is equally foolish and gives credibility to the attack.

5) To support the right of one to speak, but not another, is being a hypocrite.

6) The muck of American politics is now chest deep. Must soon get bigger boots!

 

[Moonbeam]

First Hillary explodes at some poor bastard at one of her campaign stumps and now Nuckleberry gets mired in epoxy. Geez, I'm not going to have any body to vote for. Oh yeah, Obama wants to talk to Iran. I'm surrounded by morons.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: sirjonk
This thread seems to indicate Reps aren't above the same tactic. Making insulting statements is protected by free speech. Criticizing those making insulting statements is also protected by free speech. I don't see how this is a partisan issue.

Tell that to the loons on the left trying to stifle free speech at every turn. The hum drum surrounding the Fairness Doctrine is a perfect example. That's why it is a partisan issue. It shouldn't be.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: sirjonk
This thread seems to indicate Reps aren't above the same tactic. Making insulting statements is protected by free speech. Criticizing those making insulting statements is also protected by free speech. I don't see how this is a partisan issue.

Tell that to the loons on the left trying to stifle free speech at every turn. The hum drum surrounding the Fairness Doctrine is a perfect example. That's why it is a partisan issue. It shouldn't be.

So says one of the biggest critics of MoveOn.

Loons indeed.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Queasy
I don't see where Huckabee was calling for Congress to act on the MoveOn.org ad.

The first quote has to do with Huckabee's opinion of the MoveOn.org ad. The second quote has to do with Congress trying censure/silence Limbaugh.

Guess you didn't click the link and read the rest FROM HUCKABEES OWN WEBSITE:

Huckabee:
?I call on every candidate for President, whether Democrat or Republican, to join in a condemnation of this outrageous insult to our military. The fact that such an abuse of free speech is legal doesn?t make it right or responsible.

Then ol' huck voted for the condemnation.

I guess Huck is only against left wing organizations slandering our military.

Or maybe he's just not completely full of crap? MoveOn attacked a decorated soldier. Rush referenced a guy who had never served a day in Iraq but who claimed to have participated in war crimes, sullying the reputation of every soldier in Iraq. (Apparently you only see through spin when it is convenient for you.)

So your comparison and selective outrage seem to have no bearing in reality. But nice try. :thumbsup:

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: ElFenix
like he had any credibility with you.

Exactly.

How typical of the righties, dodge the issue.

The point isn't techs' pre-existing opinion of Huckabee; it's Huckabee's hypocrisy in calling for government condemnation of one private political group and opposing it for another, not because of a difference in the qualitative issues involved, but because of the partisan orientations.

The MoveOn ad was accurate in its content, it appeared. Sure, Rush was taken to task for something he may not have fully meant and which he said he does not mean; defend him on that basis, but not the 'big brother government has no business criticizing him for whatever he says' card and then saying the opposite for Moveon.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Queasy
The First Amendment Right to Free Speech does not mean freedom from criticism.

It does, if you are a liberal. Free Speech is the first thing they shout, but that only applies if they *agree* with said speech. Otherwise, you should be condemned and silenced.

We have a bias.

For the truth.

The opposite, it seems too much of the time, of your bias.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: sirjonk
This thread seems to indicate Reps aren't above the same tactic. Making insulting statements is protected by free speech. Criticizing those making insulting statements is also protected by free speech. I don't see how this is a partisan issue.

Tell that to the loons on the left trying to stifle free speech at every turn. The hum drum surrounding the Fairness Doctrine is a perfect example. That's why it is a partisan issue. It shouldn't be.

Come on Pabster, the loonies on the right go on marches and book burnings to rid libraries of Harry Potter (teachers witchcraft!) and Huck Finn. Even the Pope has called for laws to be passed to restrict language that disparages religion, and he's isn't on the left side of the aisle last time I looked. Flag burning amendments are routinely proposed by the right and defeated by the left (which is either a good or bad thing depending on your ideology, but either way such laws are undeniably attempts to reign in freedom of expression.) The ACLU is the leftyist organization anywhere and they spend most of their time defending free speech rights of everyone from nazis (right) to Ward Churchill (LEFT!) My point was both sides have extremes that call for limits on the speech of the side they consider offensive. Calling one side out for this only makes sense with blinders on.

Oh, and there's no way Huck beats Craig for HOTY award.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: ElFenix
like he had any credibility with you.

Too bad, I'm sure Mike Huckabee was thinking that he could beat Billary if only the resident leftist partisan hacks from AT would only vote for him.

Hey now. We're a huge swing vote.