Michigan Senate panel approves "In God we trust" Auto plate

[tyler811]

It does not bother me and Ind. already has one. But if people have fits about a plastic Jesus in front of the court house, would this not be the same thing? Auto plates are property of the state even when you buy them for your car as I understand it after talking to a SoS employee. SoS= Secretary of State office where we in Mi buy our plates for those wo do not know. It would make too much sense be called the department of motor vehicles I guess.


Shit and this is from the article. Sounds like less a spiritual thing and just another way to gouge the taxpayer and put more money in general fund. Money should go toward child services or something.

Unlike the current eight fund-raising plates, the ?In God We Trust? plate wouldn?t be used to raise funds for any particular cause or group. Instead, the proceeds would go into the state?s general treasury.

Just curious as to other peoples opinions.




Here is the story

 

[Kaido]

My pennies say that too, so?

 

[imported_LoKe]

I think you're looking at this the wrong way. License plates can be customized as you choose, as long as it's an approved design. However, "In God We Trust" is not on the standard plate.

However, your argument is already over seeing as how you have "In God We Trust" on your currency.

 

[compnovice]

"In 2006, Indiana passed a similar law and began mass production of ?In God We Trust? plates, with one big difference??it doesn?t carry any additional charge, unlike the state?s other fund-raising plates that require a $25 fee."

Thats my only concern. I don't care if people put it on their cars. However, since its specialty they should be charged more... OR other plates should not be charged...

 

[iamwiz82]

good thing they have time for this, rather than fixing the budget or creating a hospitible busines environment.

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: LoKe
I think you're looking at this the wrong way. License plates can be customized as you choose, as long as it's an approved design. However, "In God We Trust" is not on the standard plate.

However, your argument is already over seeing as how you have "In God We Trust" on your currency.

Yes I thought of that of after I posted this Loke and I think you are right. So why do people have fits over the Jesus thing?

 

[mobobuff]

It's "separation of Church and State" not "separation of Church and Plate".

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
good thing they have time for this, rather than fixing the budget or creating a hospitible busines environment.

No kidding.

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: tyler811
Yes I thought of that of after I posted this Loke and I think you are right. So why do people have fits over the Jesus thing?

Hell if I know. I'm an Atheist and I really couldn't give a damn about what people put on their cars, bumpers, skin, property, or anything else. Hell, my family celebrates Christmas, Easter and just about everything else due to religion. It doesn't bother me because I'm not a douche.

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
good thing they have time for this, rather than fixing the budget or creating a hospitible busines environment.

Well Wiz you know they just taxed the shit out us again. They could not make it simple either. There is CPA's that are confused about the new tax law.

I just edited the original post, the money is going in the general fund. With as many zealots as we have in this state, I figure this should a few millions dollars at least, so maybe they should go back and take away that new sales tax. Ohh hell they will not do that because that is going to pay for their raise they are trying to push thru.

 

[Journer]

lalabama does the same thing, but the plates are a free alternative to the normal quote.

 

[RapidSnail]

In reference to your subtitle:

Separation of church and state has to do with the two being separate institutions, not that religious things/people/phrases can't be part of government. In other words, the government doesn't dictate the doctrines of the church, and the church doesn't dictate the policies of government.

 

[FoBoT]

"Umm what about separation of church and state?"
I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
"Umm what about separation of church and state?"
I do not think it means what you think it means.

Inconceivable!

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Originally posted by: FoBoT
"Umm what about separation of church and state?"
I do not think it means what you think it means.

Inconceivable!

This thread is offically about prince Humperdink.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: Journer
lalabama does the same thing, but the plates are a free alternative to the normal quote.

Where is this lalabama? It must be a majikal place indeed!

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Originally posted by: FoBoT
"Umm what about separation of church and state?"
I do not think it means what you think it means.

Inconceivable!

Fezzik: Why do you wear a mask? Were you burned by acid, or something like that?
Man in Black: Oh no, it's just that they're terribly comfortable. I think everyone will be wearing them in the future.

 

[George P Burdell]

Originally posted by: tyler811
Umm what about separation of church and state?

Fuck that, what about separation of OT and P&N?

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail
In reference to your subtitle:

Separation of church and state has to do with the two being separate institutions, not that religious things/people/phrases can't be part of government. In other words, the government doesn't dictate the doctrines of the church, and the church doesn't dictate the policies of government.

Thanks

I was under the impression that Separation of church and state means that The State shall not deem any one religion right or wrong (too late for that). Ohh hell The church is one thing and the state is another and never should the two meet.

Such as No God in the Pledge of Alligaince, No prayer in school. Basically no religion should play any part in any state affair. The state should not interfere with any religion as long as it does not break any state law.

This is how I basically took it to mean:

Separation of church and state" is a common metaphor that is well recognized. Equally well recognized is the metaphorical meaning of the church staying out of the state's business and the state staying out of the church's business.

Taken from here


But as others have said it does not matter:

Some additional evidences that indicate Christian Theism was the national doctrinal religion are listed below:

Emblazoned over the Speaker of the House in the US Capitol are the words "In God We Trust."
The Supreme Court building built in the 1930's has carvings of Moses and the Ten Commandments.
God is mentioned in stone all over Washington D.C., on its monuments and buildings.
As a nation, we have celebrated Christmas to commemorate the Savior's birth for centuries.
Oaths in courtrooms have invoked God from the beginning.
The founding fathers often quoted the Bible in their writings.
Every president that has given an inaugural address has mentioned God in that speech.
Prayers have been said at the swearing in of each president.
Each president was sworn in on the Bible, saying the words, "So help me God."
Our national anthem mentions God.
The liberty bell has a Bible verse engraved on it.
The original constitution of all 50 states mentions God.
Chaplains have been in the public payroll from the very beginning.
Our nations birth certificate, the Declaration of Independence, mentions God four times.
The Bible was used as a textbook in the schools.

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: George P Burdell

Originally posted by: tyler811
Umm what about separation of church and state?

Fuck that, what about separation of OT and P&N?

They make Little Petie cry :frown:

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Originally posted by: FoBoT
"Umm what about separation of church and state?"
I do not think it means what you think it means.

Inconceivable!

Fezzik: Why do you wear a mask? Were you burned by acid, or something like that?
Man in Black: Oh no, it's just that they're terribly comfortable. I think everyone will be wearing them in the future.

I am here. You are here. Soon you will not be here.

 

[KK]

Florida has "Choose Life" type plates, I almost got offended then I passed the car and forgot about it.

 

[yllus]

Get it as a plate if you want to, don't if you don't.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Originally posted by: mobobuff
It's "separation of Church and State" not "separation of Church and Plate".

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
good thing they have time for this, rather than fixing the budget or creating a hospitible busines environment.

No kidding.

But at least now the sheeple will keep voting for them. 'Cause, y'know, it's more important to be a flag-waving Christian than to have a job. The Lord will provide! :roll:

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus

Originally posted by: mobobuff
It's "separation of Church and State" not "separation of Church and Plate".

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
good thing they have time for this, rather than fixing the budget or creating a hospitible busines environment.

No kidding.

But at least now the sheeple will keep voting for them. 'Cause, y'know, it's more important to be a flag-waving Christian than to have a job. The Lord will provide! :roll:

Uhhh... Michigan is heavily democratic, Christians have little to say compared to the poor in inner cities.

<--- Not Christian or from the inner city

 

[IronWing]

If you want one, get one.

If it pisses you off every time you see one, get a package of stickers of the proper font/size printed with the words "or not" and have fun.