Michelle Bachmann's hubby's clinic got Medicaid payments topping $137,000 for 6 years

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cubby1223

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Oh no, add into that, I myself filled in the "making work pay" line on my federal taxes this year.

I'M SUCH AN EVIL HYPOCRITE THAT SHOULD DENOUNCE EVERY BELIEF I HAVE!!!!!!!!1111111111111!!!!!!!!!

What a troll thread this is.
 

matt0611

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I think for the most part Bachmann is a false "small government" person, but I wouldn't say its because of this.

I disagree with SS but if I can't opt out of it then I'll take my checks (if they ever actually come). I don't really see the hypocrisy in it if I'm paying out of my paycheck for it.
I don't see how this any different.
 

cubby1223

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troll troll troll your boat!

You do know that if "they can't has Medicaid", then the clinic doesn't collect Medicaid money from the government.

You're logic is so full of holes, there is no possible way you're trying to be intelligent. I call troll.
 

rudder

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If you are going to make a troll thread at least find something that is at least a few million. Really $137,000 over 6 years? That is like .0000000000000001% of medicares budget.
 

cubby1223

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Basically speaking, according to the logic of this thread, anyone who has a job, and thinks the way the job should work needs to be changed, is a hypocrite.

I say any Democrat, liberal, progressive, who has ever purchased anything above the bare essentials for survival, instead of donating that money to the government to be redistributed to the poor, is also a hypocrite and should denounce all their beliefs :D
 

rudder

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Not to mention the family farm of which she is a partner gets $260,000 per year in infamous farm subsidies for not growing stuff.

During that same time, Pat Scates and Sons in Illinois (who donate regularly to democrats) received $7,964,467 in federal farm subsidies. And of course the University of Illinois which received $4,372,882 in subsidies during the same time.
 

soundforbjt

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During that same time, Pat Scates and Sons in Illinois (who donate regularly to democrats) received $7,964,467 in federal farm subsidies. And of course the University of Illinois which received $4,372,882 in subsidies during the same time.

And if they were saying it's welfare & bad, they'd be hypocrites also.
 

ElFenix

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I don't see why someone can't be against a program while using it during the time it continues to exist.
me neither
Anyways Michele Bachmann does thousands of far worse and far stupider things, so why focus on this one?

i guess the looking at the other camera bit ran out of steam?
 

soundforbjt

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Is her husband saying Medicare is bad?

Her husband's not running for Preident on that platform, but his wife is. She also claims she made no money from the farm, her tax records state otherwise.

But, I'm sure he would if asked.
 

xj0hnx

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You do realize that MediCARE is not the same as MedicAID right?

Whatever, you know what my point was.

soundforbjt said:
Her husband's not running for Preident on that platform, but his wife is. She also claims she made no money from the farm, her tax records state otherwise.

But, I'm sure he would if asked.

Right, he's not running for president ...what's the point of all this again? She's a hypocrite because his clinic takes Medicaid?
 

spidey07

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Whatever, you know what my point was.



Right, he's not running for president ...what's the point of all this again? She's a hypocrite because his clinic takes Medicaid?

"For the first time in my life, I'm actually proud of my country"
Michelle Obama
 

soundforbjt

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She may have bigger problems:

[URL="http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/06/30/257489/bachmann-clinic-proselytize/"]Did The Bachmann Family Clinic Violate Its Agreement Not To Engage In ‘Religious Based Counseling’?[/url]

As ThinkProgress reported yesterday, Rep. Michele Bachmann has not been fully truthful about the government earmarks her family benefited from through her husband’s clinic. That’s not her only problem, however. A review of the government contract reveals that the clinic might have violated a provision in one of its grants, an infringement which could open the door to civil penalties.
When signing the contract, Bachmann & Associates, Inc. agreed to the following provision:
XXIII.3 “GRANTEE agrees that no religious based counseling shall take place under the auspices of this grant.”
On August 23, 2007, Tim Johnson, who Dr. Marcus Bachmann had authorized to represent him, signed this contract. Bachmann & Associates, Inc. agreed to devise and implement a plan to utilize a certain treatment with patients suffering from both a mental illness and a substance-use disorder. In return, the clinic received $24,401 between 2008 and 2009 for both clinician training and the administrative costs associated with the project.
But in its bid to receive a separate government contract that also targeted patients with dual disorders, Bachmann & Associates, Inc. described the treatment program that the clinic offered as “faith-based.” The proposal even warns that “clients will need to be comfortable with counseling and education emphasizing spiritual growth utilizing Christian language concepts.”
The program plan included a section detailing just what the faith-based aspect of the treatment would look like:
It will be utilizing Christian concepts and language that some non-Christians might be uncomfortable with…Church involvement will be encouraged and clients will be encouraged to utilize their church as a source of support and accountability. Local members of Christian recovery groups will routinely share their recovery process and be available as mentors. Groups will include short opening and closing prayers. The concept of God or HP will often be referred to in a Christian manner by both staff and clients.
The treatment plan should come as no surprise when compared with the clinic’s self-promotion. On its website, the Bachmann counseling center presents itself as “providing all clients with quality Christian counseling.” And just last year, Dr. Bachmann said his clinic employs “twenty-six Christian, pro-life, pro-family, pro-marriage counselors” who are driven by the belief that “the undeniable truth and the godly principles of truth in God’s work should direct our path.” In his personal mission statement, Bachmann wrote, “I believe my call is to minister to the needs of people in a practical, effective, and sensitive way. Christ is the Almighty Counselor” (emphasis in original).
Out of 19 counselors listed on the website, twelve counselors mention God, Christ or the Lord in their personal mission statement. Four others include the role of spirit or faith in their counseling processes. Six employees quote Bible verses. If the clinic, its staff, its programs and its owner, Dr. Bachmann himself, are emphasizing that Bachmann & Associates, Inc is a Christian-based counseling center, what evidence suggests that the clinic did not offer Christian-based counseling when dealing with the patients specified under the state grant?
 

PeshakJang

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Also, for the record, if there has been one point made adamantly by the left here, over and over, is that calling for the end of a certain government program, benefit, or loophole, while simultaneously exploiting it to the fullest extent (even into the realm of questionable legality), is absolutely not hypocritical in any way.

See: John Kerry, et al
 

jhu

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Hypocrisy not found. He was just doing his normal work. Just because you disagree with a government program doesn't mean you should not use it. I made use of the cash for clunkers even though I thought it was a waste and stupid. After all, I paid for it (with my taxes), why should I not use it if I have a legal right to?

Integrity perhaps? A few docs in my area don't take Medicare. They still see the patients, they just don't charge Medicare for their services, and the patients pay what they can. Sometimes it's nothing. Sometimes it's farm fresh chickens.
 

soundforbjt

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Two different contracts. None of that particular sum of money went to religious based services.

Just like no medicaid money goes to abortions at Planned Parenthood.

Liberals are so quick to destroy their own arguments.

I never stated it was concerning medicaid, just that they may have more problems.
 

Anarchist420

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The problem I have with Michelle Bachmann is that pretty much the only money she's ever taken has been from the tax-payer, this isn't the first time. Dr. Paul always refused to accept Medicare and Medicaid, treated patients for free, he gives most of his salary back to the taxpayer, and he never made a living off the taxpayer to prosecute the taxpayer.

In other words, Michelle Bachmann is a hypocritical welfare whore who is polling ahead of Dr. Paul. I had wanted to think that it was only democrats who were this anti-principled, but now I know better thanks to hypocritical fuckasses like M Bachmann.
 
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spidey07

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And from waaaaaaay out of right field comes ...SPIDEY!!!!!

I'm just pointing out that if spouses are ok, then let's trout out michelle as the embarassment she is.

I do find it funny how a conservative women scares the crap out of the left and they go into full on dig up dirt, smear, attack mode.
 
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nonlnear

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How is "accepting Medicaid payments" equivalent to "benefitting from medicaid"? Depending on the area of practice, Medicaid business may well be a loss leader that you've just got to do to maintain goodwill in a community. Unless somebody does a breakdown of how the Medicaid rates collected by this specific clinic compare to the non-medicaid rates they get from their other business, this is a meaningless "issue".

As for Bachmann herself, there are plenty of good reasons not to vote for her without making yourself look stupid by manufacturing fake stories about nothing at all.