Michael Steele blames it all on Trump-

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zinfamous

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he's the black guy. Watch them line up behind him now as the source of wisdom. He can both absolve them of all their previous decades of clear malfeasance by blaming it on Trump (I'm the black guy that supported Trump...but didn't mean it!), and absolve them of their racism, because he is black.
 
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UberNeuman

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Moonbeam said:
Leopards never change their spots, right. Most people believe in the possibility of redemption, it seems to me. I would want to know his take today on what he said 9 years ago and then make a decision on this.
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Redemption only comes to those seeking or wanting to be redeemed.
 
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Moonbeam

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UberNeuman said:
Redemption only comes to those seeking or wanting to be redeemed.
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That makes no sense at all. If I condemned him for the Limbaugh thingi, then only I can redeem him. Since the act took place years ago, I need to know what he thinks of it all today before I make what I view as a just choice.
 
UberNeuman

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Moonbeam said:
That makes no sense at all. If I condemned him for the Limbaugh thingi, then only I can redeem him. Since the act took place years ago, I need to know what he thinks of it all today before I make what I view as a just choice.
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You aren't the one to redeem him. Only he can. And Micheal has chosen to carry those water cans, these now piss-filled cans full of BUT, TRUMP. lol. There's no divorcing of the two - the GOP/TRUMP are one in the same. The insanity is to act like it isn't what it is right now.
 
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HomerJS

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UberNeuman said:

Redemption only comes to those seeking or wanting to be redeemed.
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This is an amazing piece of tape. Everybody in this forum who always opines why "we are always talking about race" needs to watch this clip. Deserves its own thread.

Pretty much sums up why GOP can't attract blacks and other people of color. Forward to today the dog whistles have been elevated to bullhorns.

I like MS. I've seen him double over like he was punched in the gut answering for the racism that comes out of Republicans.
 
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Thump553

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Steele been very vocal and totally consistent in his opposition to Trump since way before the election. Frankly I think he is one of the very few remaining true Republicans left. I don't agree with a lot of his policy opinions but I respect him.
 
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UberNeuman said:
You aren't the one to redeem him. Only he can. And Micheal has chosen to carry those water cans, these now piss-filled cans full of BUT, TRUMP. lol. There's no divorcing of the two - the GOP/TRUMP are one in the same. The insanity is to act like it isn't what it is right now.
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Sounds like he hasn't redeemed himself in your opinion but for the two posters following the one I quote here, it seems he has. So redemption, like I said, is a function of personal opinion. When you decide he is redeemed, you will see him as such. You will judge what he says and it will or will not satisfy you. You want to elevate your personal opinion to the level of an absolute, as if only what you call redemption is the real thing. I offer no opinion on whether I believe your judgment to be right or wrong, only that redemption depends on how you interpret and judge his condition. My point is that when you confuse your opinion with absolute truth you run the risk of being a fanatic, a person of absolute certainty, all ready to judge like the Spanish Inquisition. When a person becomes full of moral outrage against violations of their sacred beliefs, that rage will seek targets to dump on. This is always preceded by the need to see ones targets as deserving of our wrath. It turns you in to what you hate.
 
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Moonbeam said:
That makes no sense at all. If I condemned him for the Limbaugh thingi, then only I can redeem him. Since the act took place years ago, I need to know what he thinks of it all today before I make what I view as a just choice.
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In order to redeem oneself a person must accept responsibility for their past. Steele hasn't done that. Kowtowing to Limbaugh enabled Limbaugh, the Alt-right & Trump in no small way. It's not like he was alone, either. The GOP had no problem with the spreading of hate & discontent among their base so long as it helped them win & wasn't horribly embarrassing. The rhetoric of Limbaugh, Hannity, Pirro, Coulter et al has been an integral part of their pitch.

Steele says it hasn't been like that, at all, that somehow Trump crazified all these people into voting for him all on his own. That's not true at all. Trump just said all the same vile & divisive bullshit that the GOP has preached from Gingrich forward- he just said it louder & straight out.

When Steele cops to that he'll be seeking redemption. As it is he's just trying to dance away from it.
 
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Thump553 said:
Steele been very vocal and totally consistent in his opposition to Trump since way before the election. Frankly I think he is one of the very few remaining true Republicans left. I don't agree with a lot of his policy opinions but I respect him.
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I agree with this, I listen to Steele and Unger most days of the week, and a Trump apologist Steele is not.
 
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TheVrolok said:
I agree with this, I listen to Steele and Unger most days of the week, and a Trump apologist Steele is not.
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He's just an apologist for the Party who built shit mountain for Trump to stand atop. Trump just says the same things the GOP has been saying for decades, only louder.
 
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Jhhnn said:
He's just an apologist for the Party who built shit mountain for Trump to stand atop. Trump just says the same things the GOP has been saying for decades, only louder.
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I also agree with this, he's certainly anti Trump, but that does not absolve him of what he helped to create that led to Trump.
 
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