Michael Richards: Jewish by Association?

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Michael Richards: Jewish by Association?
By SOLVEJ SCHOU, Associated Press Writer
1 hour ago


Actor and comedian Michael Richards smiles at his office ...
LOS ANGELES - Just when it seemed Michael Richards was about to leave the most troubling incident of his career behind, his publicist is having to explain how the comic could consider himself to be Jewish.

Last week, crisis-management expert Howard Rubenstein acknowledged that Richards had shouted anti-Semitic remarks in an April standup comedy routine _ well before his appearance earlier this month in which he harangued hecklers with the n-word. But he defended Richards' language about Jews, saying that the comic "is Jewish. He's not anti-Semitic at all. He was role-playing."

As Rubenstein's assertion circulated, Jewish organizations and commentators pointed out that the man who played Cosmo Kramer on "Seinfeld" has not converted to Judaism and neither of his parents are Jewish.

Which makes him ...

"Technically, not having been born by blood as Jewish and not formally going into a conversion, it was purely his interpretation of having adopted Judaism as his religion," Rubenstein told The Associated Press on Tuesday. "He told me, `I'm Jewish,' when I asked him.

"He said there were two mentors who raised him and who had a big influence on his life, and they were Jewish. He said, `I agree with the concepts and the religious beliefs of Judaism and I've adopted Judaism as my religion,'" Rubenstein said. "He really thinks of himself as Jewish."

What do some Jews think?

"You can't feel Jewish. It's not a matter of feeling. You can convert to Judaism. You can't not convert to Judaism and then be Jewish," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, founder and dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles.

Hier defined being Jewish from two perspectives, if someone hasn't gone through the process of formal conversion.

"From the Orthodox point of view, if that person has a Jewish mother, he would be considered Jewish," Hier said. "In the Reform tradition, there's also a patrilineage. Under those categories, he would not fit."

Rabbi Mark S. Diamond of the 280-member Board of Rabbis of Southern California agreed.

"There are many people who appreciate Jewish customs, who may embrace aspects of Jewish culture and practice, but that does not make them Jewish," he said.

After his tirade came to light, Richards apologized on David Letterman's "Late Show" on CBS, saying his remarks were sparked by anger at being heckled, not bigotry. He also apologized to the Rev. Al Sharpton, and apologized Sunday on the Rev. Jesse Jackson's syndicated radio program.

Rubenstein said Richards wasn't available for an interview Tuesday.

"He wants to rest," the publicist said. "He's been talking to his psychiatrist."

 

akshatp

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This clears up an argument that i had with a co-worker last week. I was saying there is no way he is Jewish and he insisted that he is.

Now I get to shout nanny nanny boo boo at him
 

Brutuskend

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Originally posted by: akshatp
This clears up an argument that i had with a co-worker last week. I was saying there is no way he is Jewish and he insisted that he is.

Now I get to shout nanny nanny boo boo at him

:thumbsup:

Glad to be of help! :)
 

aidanjm

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I think it's sad how this guy is being hounded for comments made in a bad moment, when there is no evidence of him being in a racist manner in terms of how he conducts his life. There is no evidence, no stories, of him refusing to work with African-American actors or supporting crazy "white power" political groups. It's pretty obvious the guy is not racist in any meaningful sense of the term. Compare with a citizen who claims she is not homophobic, and yet actually votes for a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage or same-sex civil unions. Such a person is actually making decisions her day to day live that have grave, harmful consequences for gay people. Such a person can reasonably be chastised for their bigotry, imo.
 

SmoochyTX

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
Blah blah blah blah blah. He's a racist.
\thread
many people are, he just got caught.
And? He's cozied up to the black community now so Jackson will declare him safe.

So sick of this. He's a racist. He can be a racist if he wants. Since when did everybody have to believe the same thing?

He's getting more attention that he deserves. Nothing like pushing those Seinfeld DVDs out eh?
 

Pepsei

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Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
Originally posted by: Pepsei
Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
Blah blah blah blah blah. He's a racist.
\thread
many people are, he just got caught.
And? He's cozied up to the black community now so Jackson will declare him safe.

So sick of this. He's a racist. He can be a racist if he wants. Since when did everybody have to believe the same thing?

He's getting more attention that he deserves. Nothing like pushing those Seinfeld DVDs out eh?


just an observation... that there are more closet racists out there.

i dunno if the incident is going to help the sale or not.... the fans will probably get it anyway.
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
He's a racist. He can be a racist if he wants. Since when did everybody have to believe the same thing?

but what is a racist? someone who uses nasty words when he wants to offend some rude Afrcian-American audience members? Or someone who actually discriminates against people of other races in a way that causes measurable harm? There are "real" racists who freely use racist terms (as well as doing more harmful things), and there is no way they would apologise for using such terms either. I think Richards is thoughtless in his choice of words, more so than anything else.
 

SmoochyTX

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
Originally posted by: Pepsei
Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
Blah blah blah blah blah. He's a racist.
\thread
many people are, he just got caught.
And? He's cozied up to the black community now so Jackson will declare him safe.

So sick of this. He's a racist. He can be a racist if he wants. Since when did everybody have to believe the same thing?

He's getting more attention that he deserves. Nothing like pushing those Seinfeld DVDs out eh?
just an observation... that there are more closet racists out there.

i dunno if the incident is going to help the sale or not.... the fans will probably get it anyway.
I know there are closet racists out there. There are racists out there. It's not just white vs black. But there's nothing that can be done with them. They can either change or they won't. But nothing says they have to change. It's their right to be a racist. Everybody else is left to do damage control.

Really though, I'm just tired of all of the Michael Richards threads. This could have been a George Bush thread or a Kerry thread or a Mel Gibson thread or a Britney Spears thread or a Jesse Jackson thread or a Clinton thread or a whatever thread. It's old already. LOL
 

SmoochyTX

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
He's a racist. He can be a racist if he wants. Since when did everybody have to believe the same thing?

but what is a racist? someone who uses nasty words when he wants to offend some rude Afrcian-American audience members? Or someone who actually discriminates against people of other races in a way that causes measurable harm? There are "real" racists who freely use racist terms (as well as doing more harmful things), and there is no way they would apologise for using such terms either. I think Richards is thoughtless in his choice of words, more so than anything else.
Michael Richards can say whatever the hell he wants to say. He's an American (I'm assuming this). People can leave his shows. Clubs can decline to book him. He can go down as one of the most racist comedians in the world. I don't care.

It's all on him. He said it. Maybe he lost it. Maybe he was whoring for attention. Again, I don't care. He has the right to say what he wants.

With that said, could we please keep the Michael Richards crap in one thread? Or does a new thread have to pop up every time somebody gets an itch in their ass? It's not like the guy was a real comic to begin with. And why this ass pretending to be a comedian is getting so much attention is beyond me unless people really have nothing better to do with their time.
 

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Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
Really though, I'm just tired of all of the Michael Richards threads. This could have been a George Bush thread or a Kerry thread or a Mel Gibson thread or a Britney Spears thread or a Jesse Jackson thread or a Clinton thread or a whatever thread. It's old already. LOL

Then why read and reply to them? If your window had a close button, would you know when to use it?
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
And why this ass pretending to be a comedian is getting so much attention is beyond me unless people really have nothing better to do with their time.

maybe the situation provides an opportunity for Americans to acknowledge the racial tensions that are simmering away just below the surface of society.

the weirdest thing about this incident was hearing Al (fat weather guy on NBC Today show) saying "good riddance! Hope we never hear from him again!" about Michael Richards (after a segment about the incident ended with a throw to the weather).
 

SmoochyTX

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Originally posted by: Oblivionaire
Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
Really though, I'm just tired of all of the Michael Richards threads. This could have been a George Bush thread or a Kerry thread or a Mel Gibson thread or a Britney Spears thread or a Jesse Jackson thread or a Clinton thread or a whatever thread. It's old already. LOL

Then why read and reply to them? If your window had a close button, would you know when to use it?
What a great contribution to this discussion. :roll:
 

SmoochyTX

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
And why this ass pretending to be a comedian is getting so much attention is beyond me unless people really have nothing better to do with their time.

maybe the situation provides an opportunity for Americans to acknowledge the racial tensions that are simmering away just below the surface of society.

the weirdest thing about this incident was hearing Al (fat weather guy on NBC Today show) saying "good riddance! Hope we never hear from him again!" about Michael Richards (after a segment about the incident ended with a throw to the weather).
Racism will never go away. It will always be there. That was my point in this discussion in case people missed it.

There will always be people who hate or discriminate against others. They could be black, white, Latino, Asian, gay, straight, fat, skinny, dumb, smart, short, tall, rich, poor, blah blah blah. It will never end. It's human nature.

While I realize that there are many great people trying to change views out there, it's not very realistic to believe that everybody can view things the way that is politically correct. Part of being American is being able to think the way you want. It's unreal that there are people out there trying to dictate how a person should feel.