Michael Cohen is writing a book.

[pcgeek11]

With that in mind do you agree that if Cohen has any knowledge of additional criminal activity he should notify the public?


Meh, I don’t find Cohen inherently trustworthy so it will all be about what other evidence he has and what the circumstances are.

Should he notify the public?
Who he should notify is the Justice System along with all supporting evidence.

As you stated in one of your prior post "If anything, Cohen owes him a nice fuck you right back. "

That is what this is all about and we all know it. Cohen is sending a FU to Trump because he feels like he got screwed on their alleged illegal joint venture and is going to make a mint off of it.

 

[fskimospy]

Should he notify the public?
Who he should notify is the Justice System along with all supporting evidence.

As you stated in one of your prior post "If anything, Cohen owes him a nice fuck you right back. "

That is what this is all about and we all know it. Cohen is sending a FU to Trump because he feels like he got screwed on their alleged illegal joint venture and is going to make a mint off of it.

We already covered that notifying the justice system is pointless because they won’t do anything as long as Trump is president.

So acknowledging that the justice system, if notified, will do nothing to Trump, Cohen should notify the public, agree?

 

[pcgeek11]

Trump is President and thus cannot be indicted. But otherwise, why? If an ex Mafia goon writes a book about his experience, he is a double-crossing turd?

Granted Trump is in a special position being the President. Everything catches up when he is no longer in that position. Coming soon in November maybe.

As per the mafia question. The ex Mafia Goon should take it to the Justice system if he is looking to repent and come clean.

 

[fskimospy]

Granted Trump is in a special position being the President. Everything catches up when he is no longer in that position. Coming soon in November maybe.

As per the mafia question. The ex Mafia Goon should take it to the Justice system if he is looking to repent and come clean.

So to be clear, if someone has evidence that the current president is committing crimes they should only inform the people who will do nothing about it, thus contributing to four additional years of more crimes?

That’s quite frankly an incredible position to hold.

 

[pcgeek11]

We already covered that notifying the justice system is pointless because they won’t do anything as long as Trump is president.

So acknowledging that the justice system, if notified, will do nothing to Trump, Cohen should notify the public, agree?

So what. That is the system we have. Trump will not be the President forever.

No, I don't agree. The Justice system will get their shot when he is out of office.

 

[pcgeek11]

So to be clear, if someone has evidence that the current president is committing crimes they should only inform the people who will do nothing about it, thus contributing to four additional years of more crimes?

That’s quite frankly an incredible position to hold.

Impeachment and removal from office is the answer to that if there are actual crime(s) being commited.

I'm sorry you don't like the way the system is set up. I don't think I would base my vote on a known vindictive revenge tell all book.

 

[interchange]

As per the mafia question. The ex Mafia Goon should take it to the Justice system if he is looking to repent and come clean.

Why should he be barred from speaking publicly about it as well?

 

[pcgeek11]

Why should he be barred from speaking publicly about it as well?

I never said barred from speaking about it. A mafia member is not subject to the Attorney-client privilege.

Mafia is not equal to Cohen or Trump.

Cohen was Trumps Lawyer and I'm sure he was paid very well for his services. Anything between them that was not illegal should remain within the Attorney-client privilege laws and remain a secret. Not revealed in a revenge tell all book.

Anything illegal should have been brought to the Justice System and if High Crimes and Misdemeanors are found and proven he should be impeached and removed from office. If not then it would have to wait until he is out of office.

I think this is clear enough.

 

[hal2kilo]

Is my ignored baby carrying water again.

 

[pcgeek11]

Is my ignored baby carrying water again.

Obviously I'm not ignored. LOL

 

[fskimospy]

Impeachment and removal from office is the answer to that if there are actual crime(s) being commited.

I'm sorry you don't like the way the system is set up. I don't think I would base my vote on a known vindictive revenge tell all book.

That’s not the justice system, that is Congress. We are not talking about removal from office through impeachment, we are talking about the upcoming election.

Our system is set up so anyone can inform the public about any information they think is pertinent to the election. In fact, our system encourages it.

I’m sorry if you don’t like how our system is set up but pouting because people might inform the public about criminal behavior by the president is a feature not a bug. I’m sure you agree?

 

[fskimospy]

I never said barred from speaking about it. A mafia member is not subject to the Attorney-client privilege.

Mafia is not equal to Cohen or Trump.

Cohen was Trumps Lawyer and I'm sure he was paid very well for his services. Anything between them that was not illegal should remain within the Attorney-client privilege laws and remain a secret. Not revealed in a revenge tell all book.

Anything illegal should have been brought to the Justice System and if High Crimes and Misdemeanors are found and proven he should be impeached and removed from office. If not then it would have to wait until he is out of office.

I think this is clear enough.

That is not how attorney client privilege works. The communications that are between them are privileged only if they pertain to legal work Cohen is doing for Trump and then as you say, only non-criminal work.

I have seen no indication that Cohen intends to violate that privilege in what he tells about Trump, so you’re just making things up now.

I think everyone can agree that the voters should have all pertinent information as to Trump’s past actions when they vote in November so I welcome Cohen’s contribution. The real reason conservatives are mad about this is they are scared what he might say.

 

[fskimospy]

Is my ignored baby carrying water again.

Haha, he’s raging that Michael Cohen might tell the voting public about his experiences with Trump.

Right about now he’s backed into a corner again though so I anticipate any minute he will switch into ‘well this is what I believe’ mode, and then when asked to elaborate why he will tell us it’s a secret.

 

[hal2kilo]

Haha, he’s raging that Michael Cohen might tell the voting public about his experiences with Trump.

Right about now he’s backed into a corner again though so I anticipate any minute he will switch into ‘well this is what I believe’ mode, and then when asked to elaborate why he will tell us it’s a secret.

I just knew I didn't have to read it. Ah, nature like repeating patterns.

 

[pcgeek11]

That’s not the justice system, that is Congress. We are not talking about removal from office through impeachment, we are talking about the upcoming election.

Our system is set up so anyone can inform the public about any information they think is pertinent to the election. In fact, our system encourages it.

I’m sorry if you don’t like how our system is set up but pouting because people might inform the public about criminal behavior by the president is a feature not a bug. I’m sure you agree?

I'm talking about the proper ways to get redress.'

You are also entitled to your opinions. I’m sure you agree?

 

[pcgeek11]

1.) That is not how attorney client privilege works. The communications that are between them are privileged only if they pertain to legal work Cohen is doing for Trump and then as you say, only non-criminal work.

2.) I have seen no indication that Cohen intends to violate that privilege in what he tells about Trump, so you’re just making things up now.

3.) I think everyone can agree that the voters should have all pertinent information as to Trump’s past actions when they vote in November so I welcome Cohen’s contribution. The real reason conservatives are mad about this is they are scared what he might say.

1.) I know how it works, although I am not an expert. It looks like you agree with me on this.

2.) You have no idea what he is going to say in his book and you accuse me of making up things. I never said I knew what he is going to say specifically. But we all have some idea of what a "Tell All Book" is usually about. I’m sure you agree?

3.) Past actions yes. Revenge tell all publicity book no. What ever comes out will come out anyway. meh Just voicing my opinion of Cohen and his book. Cohen is like a scorned wife. I don't think anyone is afraid of what is going to "come out".

 

[fskimospy]

I'm talking about the proper ways to get redress.'

You are also entitled to your opinions. I’m sure you agree?

Why is that not the proper way to get redress? Seems like notifying the public is an extremely good idea for getting redress if the normal paths aren't available.

 

[fskimospy]

1.) I know how it works, although I am not an expert. It looks like you agree with me on this.

2.) You have no idea what he is going to say in his book and you accuse me of making up things. I never said I knew what he is going to say specifically. But we all have some idea of what a "Tell All Book" is usually about. I’m sure you agree?

3.) Past actions yes. Revenge tell all publicity book no. What ever comes out will come out anyway. meh Just voicing my opinion of Cohen and his book. Cohen is like a scorned wife. I don't think anyone is afraid of what is going to "come out".

Okay great then, you don't need to criticize him about things you have no idea if he's going to do or not, haha.

 

[pcgeek11]

Haha, he’s raging that Michael Cohen might tell the voting public about his experiences with Trump.

Right about now he’s backed into a corner again though so I anticipate any minute he will switch into ‘well this is what I believe’ mode, and then when asked to elaborate why he will tell us it’s a secret.

Since when is voicing my opinion raging? Why do you continuously try and make a conversation into a "rage"? Just another of your dishonest hit tactics. Laughable.

I stated my opinion and why. You disagree and I don't care.

 

[pcgeek11]

Why is that not the proper way to get redress? Seems like notifying the public is an extremely good idea for getting redress if the normal paths aren't available.

The normal path is available. The Democrats screwed the pooch when they attempted it.

 

[pcgeek11]

Okay great then, you don't need to criticize him about things you have no idea if he's going to do or not, haha.

So you are going to pretend you don't know what a tell all book is?

Haha.

 

[fskimospy]

So you are going to pretend you don't know what a tell all book is?

Haha.

1) The article describes his book as a 'tell all', not Cohen.
2) If you think people actually write everything they know in tell all books... well... lol. I can't believe anyone is actually that naive.

You were criticizing him for things you have no idea if he will do or not. That's dumb.

 

[fskimospy]

The normal path is available. The Democrats screwed the pooch when they attempted it.

Nope, Republicans blocked the normal path. It's the same thing with whistleblowers in any organization, when misconduct is going unaddressed by the regular paths the ethical person takes it to the public anyway.

It's not like Congress is short on reports of misconduct by Trump, Republicans have just decided that misconduct is okay. Now it's time for the voters to decide if misconduct is okay and that means getting it all out into the open - everything.

I'm sorry if you don't like how our system works but it's designed so that the voters should judge candidates with all the information they can get. Other politicians don't get to judge what the voters know.

 

[fskimospy]

I love how pcgeek's apparent solution if you see wrongdoing is to take it to the authorities. If they don't do anything about it then the appropriate action is to give up and never speak of it again.

Lol. It's kind of insulting that he expects us to think he actually believes that.

 

[interchange]

I never said barred from speaking about it. A mafia member is not subject to the Attorney-client privilege.

Mafia is not equal to Cohen or Trump.

Cohen was Trumps Lawyer and I'm sure he was paid very well for his services. Anything between them that was not illegal should remain within the Attorney-client privilege laws and remain a secret. Not revealed in a revenge tell all book.

Anything illegal should have been brought to the Justice System and if High Crimes and Misdemeanors are found and proven he should be impeached and removed from office. If not then it would have to wait until he is out of office.

I think this is clear enough.

I agree that anything which would constitute work he performed as an attorney should remain confidential. That's a no-brainer. Him disclosing any valid legal work for Trump without consent would be actionable against him. I really don't think Cohen would do that. Note: if you commit crimes with someone, there is no privilege.

So let's clear that hurdle and set things very narrowly. If Cohen writes only about illegal activity that he committed with Trump's involvement or direction, do you think that is wrong? If not, why not?