MFW my new work PC has a Nvidia GT 210 from 2009

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Zodiark1593

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If I was heading up IT, you'd all (unless you're doing intensive work) would get a Haswell Celeron, 4 GB RAM, and a 64 GB SSD preloaded with Win 7. Speedy enough for basic tasks, and fast boots and shutdowns so the dregs can get to work faster, and keep working for a tad longer, in addition to speedy image recovery in case a user is doing something he\she\it shouldn't be doing.
 

mohit9206

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You're lucky your work PCs have i5s and such. Where i live work PCs usually have either Pentium 4 or Pentium Dual core from lga 775 era and 1 or at most 2gb ram and lots still have CRT monitors or if lucky then some lowly 15 inch lcd.
 

rudeguy

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My current rig with the AMD 4670 has a driver crash if I go past 1080 on youtube. I am afraid the Nvidia GT210 can't even do 1080.

Since this is the only thing video related you have mentioned, can we all assume you don't have an actual need for a GPU?

FFS...I'm rocking an i5 4670 with 8GB of RAM and a 1TB spinner and its more than fast enough for anything I throw at it.
 

edro

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Sooo you're complaining that your work PC doesn't have an 1337 gaming video card?
Ugh.

I use a Quadro K4000. People who need good video cards get them.
 
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pete6032

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Lol. My workstation is a Core 2 Q9400 with 8GB RAM and and HD2400 XT. I have to do CPU intensive tasks on it, don't complain!
 

Jeff7

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Sooo you're complaining that your work PC doesn't have an 1337 gaming video card?
Ugh.

I use a Quadro K4000. People who need good video cards get them.
Eventually. I was stuck with a 128MB card for a few years. Small assemblies chugged down to a few FPS at lowest quality.

College: The CAD labs used Compaqs with integrated graphics. o_O
 

CPA

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I have an i7-4600U with a 720M and 16GB RAM. What do I win?
 

CPA

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If I was heading up IT, you'd all (unless you're doing intensive work) would get a Haswell Celeron, 4 GB RAM, and a 64 GB SSD preloaded with Win 7. Speedy enough for basic tasks, and fast boots and shutdowns so the dregs can get to work faster, and keep working for a tad longer, in addition to speedy image recovery in case a user is doing something he\she\it shouldn't be doing.

You must not have any accountants or finance guys at your work because that thing would crash at the first sight of some of my spreadsheets.
 

edro

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that thing would crash at the first sight of some of my spreadsheets.
lolwut

Spreadsheets!?! It's probably not due to computing power. It's more likely due to all the data connections external to the spreadsheet.

...but you know your spreadsheets more than me.
 

mvbighead

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If I was heading up IT, you'd all (unless you're doing intensive work) would get a Haswell Celeron, 4 GB RAM, and a 64 GB SSD preloaded with Win 7. Speedy enough for basic tasks, and fast boots and shutdowns so the dregs can get to work faster, and keep working for a tad longer, in addition to speedy image recovery in case a user is doing something he\she\it shouldn't be doing.

Unless you're talking thin clients that connect to RDGateway/XenDesktop, you'd be a buffoon.

So essentially, you're going to pay staff $30k-100k and have them work from a $300 machine? I'm not sure you under stand cost saving, but that ain't a good way to do it. If you make your employees less efficient by giving them slower machines, well, in my opinion, that just isn't bright.

Sure, most menial tasks are fine. But anything where it slows productivity down... doesn't make a lot of sense. And just to be clear, I am not suggesting staff needs an i7 with 32GB of RAM and an ultra SSD, but bare minimum specs are pretty ridiculous for someone you are paying far more than the cost of that hardware.
 

AznAnarchy99

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Eventually. I was stuck with a 128MB card for a few years. Small assemblies chugged down to a few FPS at lowest quality.

College: The CAD labs used Compaqs with integrated graphics. o_O

You need a better college.

My school was on a 4 year cycle.
 

OutHouse

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I guess I just don't feel appreciated. After working there 8 years I am rewarded with a card that is literally the least money can buy. I feel like a Dentist who is given an off the shelf toothbrush to do his job with.

your IT guys ordered a kick ass card and stole it and gave you a crappy card.

FYI, ive never done the above. :cool::whiste:
 

OutHouse

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If I was heading up IT, you'd all (unless you're doing intensive work) would get a Haswell Celeron, 4 GB RAM, and a 64 GB SSD preloaded with Win 7. Speedy enough for basic tasks, and fast boots and shutdowns so the dregs can get to work faster, and keep working for a tad longer, in addition to speedy image recovery in case a user is doing something he\she\it shouldn't be doing.

we see now why you will never manage a IT dept or a companies infrastructure.
 

WackyDan

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Anybody who put custom hardware in their company owned computer under my watch would get reprimanded.

Same here. I had to write an addendum to our official corporate IT policy back in the day specifying what software was permitted and what wasn't. I had management sign off on the policy being a "condition" of employment and every employee had to sign it.

The amount of machines running like shit and needing to be re-imaged on a quarterly basis (for the problem users) went to near ZERO...Only bad thing was I didn't get to fire anyone. I used Computrace's software inventory feature to tattle tale on the fuckers if they deviated.

Now I'm an SE on a management platform that provides real time inventory on software and hardware... And I create blacklists that automatically uninstall anything not wanted.
 

WackyDan

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my work comp is a HP elitebook 8770w laptop

SSD, 8 gigs of ram

Mine is a ThinkPad W540 with 32 Gb Ram, quad core i7, 1 TB SSD for boot drive and 1 TB 7200 RPM where the DVD drive normally is. Looking to add a 256/512 M2 Sata in the M2 slot next month. Video card is something high end, Quadro or something like that. Don't need the video though.

I was capping out at 28 Gb Ram in use this morning. That was running the host OS, three Win 2008 R2 server VMs, a PXE boot client VM and one or two Win 7 VMs.

My performance bottleneck is the ssd at this point. Once we can get the PCI SSDs that issue will go away. I'm an SE on a endpoint management/security platform so I need the space for all the VM's (Some exceed 100Gb due to size of DB) and I need the ram in order to run it all in one lab/demo.

Yeah... I'm sure it runs YouTube just great, but I keep all my personal play on my home PC.
 

OutHouse

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Same here. I had to write an addendum to our official corporate IT policy back in the day specifying what software was permitted and what wasn't. I had management sign off on the policy being a "condition" of employment and every employee had to sign it.

The amount of machines running like shit and needing to be re-imaged on a quarterly basis (for the problem users) went to near ZERO...Only bad thing was I didn't get to fire anyone. I used Computrace's software inventory feature to tattle tale on the fuckers if they deviated.

Now I'm an SE on a management platform that provides real time inventory on software and hardware... And I create blacklists that automatically uninstall anything not wanted.

ive not had this problem, what were your using doing? swapping out MOBO's on company machines?
 

Jeff7

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Same here. I had to write an addendum to our official corporate IT policy back in the day specifying what software was permitted and what wasn't. I had management sign off on the policy being a "condition" of employment and every employee had to sign it.

The amount of machines running like shit and needing to be re-imaged on a quarterly basis (for the problem users) went to near ZERO...Only bad thing was I didn't get to fire anyone. I used Computrace's software inventory feature to tattle tale on the fuckers if they deviated.

Now I'm an SE on a management platform that provides real time inventory on software and hardware... And I create blacklists that automatically uninstall anything not wanted.
This is what makes me nervous about working anywhere else.
Everything and Agent Ransack: They're everything that Windows 7's search tool could have been, but failed at. Agent Ransack brings back the functionality of Windows XP's very usable search interface. Everything indexes a drive and allows simple and instant searches. Both tools have made it a lot quicker to find files, especially when looking for old projects that are buried in archive folders.

Firefox: 1) I can use Firefox - IT greatly prefers it. 2) I can install extensions that make it usable. I use more than 25 extensions at work and at home. (I don't know that a plain installation of Firefox gives much benefit over IE.)

7+ Taskbar Tweaker: Makes the Windows 7 taskbar into a properly usable one again, and adds additional functionality.

I can edit the registry to add custom right-click functionality in Explorer to make it quicker to perform certain repetitive things.

WinRAR: Excellent file compression utility, easy splitting of files (7MB limit on file extensions), and a nice interface. Okay, so 7-zip offers some of that too, though without the addition of any parity information like WinRAR does, and I much prefer WinRAR's interface.


My experience with restrictive IT policies is like saying "If I had a larger hammer, a different kind of workbench vice, and a #3 Philips head screwdriver, I could be 20% more efficient at this job," but being told that policy forbids those tools, and I have to keep doing it the hard way. Work harder, not smarter, despite the mantra that management keeps repeating.


But....I'm sure most people would use such freedom to download 10 toolbars, 7 new spyware-laden media players, and adware-filled games.



Hardware: There have been swap-outs of RAM and motherboards because the official channels never got around to replacing it. (The computer wasn't completely disabled. It would just crash every one or two hours because the damaged section of RAM was accessed, which is of course a drag on productivity.) Approval was quietly received from local management, parts were ordered, and the damaged equipment was replaced in the shadows.

We've also outfitted some of the systems with isolated USB hubs and serial interfaces to try to prevent these sorts of problems. When testing with things like power supply designs or other mains-powered prototypes, it's possible to accidentally connect things incorrectly. 5V USB signal lines don't usually like seeing a surge of 392VDC from the rectified input section of a 277VAC power supply. It would likely have taken months to get official approval to buy a $400 (isolated) USB hub, even though the thing would pay for itself the first time there was an accidental connection.
 
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WhoBeDaPlaya

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If I was heading up IT, you'd all (unless you're doing intensive work) would get a Haswell Celeron, 4 GB RAM, and a 64 GB SSD preloaded with Win 7. Speedy enough for basic tasks, and fast boots and shutdowns so the dregs can get to work faster, and keep working for a tad longer, in addition to speedy image recovery in case a user is doing something he\she\it shouldn't be doing.
Sod off. I'm not a bloody secretary. I need the display real estate, RAM, etc. to do physical design and physical design flow development (regression runs, etc.)
 

Aikouka

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One of the workstations that I use has an older NVIDIA GPU (I think a 420 or something like that), and I ran into some annoying snags with its ports. At work, pretty much everything is either VGA (old stuff, some projectors), DVI (for monitors) or HDMI (for TVs/projectors). I believe this card only has VGA, DVI and DisplayPort, which was a problem since I had to drive a monitor and a TV. I ended up bringing in my own cables (DVI-to-HDMI adapter, HDMI cable and DisplayPort cable) just to get things setup correctly. On that note, I better make sure no one tries to run off with one of my cables. :p
 

WackyDan

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ive not had this problem, what were your using doing? swapping out MOBO's on company machines?

This was back in the early 2000's... so they were downloading every new fangled app that was the rage from week to week and that was when file sharing apps were on the rise.

They would pretty much get every piece of apyware/adware/virus they could find. So my problem was more software based, though I did have some users swapping hardware from one leased machine to another - which creates an even bigger issue down the road.