Mexico seeks to strengthen its parsitic "relationship" to the US...

[tnilC]

Simply infuriating...

This festering cancer spreading from Mexico into the US is the single most important issue to me facing the US. Three million illegal immigrants flood this nation every year, taking jobs from LEGAL citizens because they will work for dirt. Dont even say they do jobs others wont, because there is no job people wont do for adequate pay. Prices are not kept low because of this illegal labor, but it does keep greedy buisness owners profits high.

They do not integrate, they do not pay taxes, they leach off of public funding via welfare, healthcare, and education, and not a peep from either party because they see a wonderful new voting block. The Democrats love the flooding of uneducated poor who suck off the public teet so they can push their socialist agenda, and the Republicans turn the cheek because it keeps corporate profits high, and all their wall street buddies happy.

Then, Mexico and other latin American third world countries lobby for less stringent immigration policies under the guise of "human rights" to aide in money being sent back into their respective economies at the expense of US citizens. Stengthening of latin American relations? The only thing these corrupt governments seek is strengthening of their parasitic relationship and nobody is going to stop it.

Fifty years form now the US will be another third world country because of this invasion.

 

[klah]

Arizona passed Prop 200.

Proposition 200 would require that evidence of United States citizenship be presented by every person to register to vote, that proof of identification be presented by every voter at the polling place prior to voting, that state and local governments verify the identity of all applicants for certain public benefits and that government employees report United States immigration law violations by applicants for public benefits.

But you are correct that no national candidate will do anything to hurt them with that voter bloc until a nuke comes across the border.

 

[nageov3t]

Mexicans... they're Christian, right? bring 'em on over!

 

[Pliablemoose]

You know what?

Those folks work their asses off @ jobs most people think are beneath them, and they have no safety net.

We cannot make this country function without them, why the hell not make them legal or give them some hope. Course if you're willing to go do roadwork in 108 degree Texas heat, I can promise I'll get you a job doing just that next summer.

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: tnilC
Simply infuriating...

This festering cancer spreading from Mexico into the US is the single most important issue to me facing the US. Three million illegal immigrants flood this nation every year, taking jobs from LEGAL citizens because they will work for dirt. Dont even say they do jobs others wont, because there is no job people wont do for adequate pay. Prices are not kept low because of this illegal labor, but it does keep greedy buisness owners profits high.

They do not integrate, they do not pay taxes, they leach off of public funding via welfare, healthcare, and education, and not a peep from either party because they see a wonderful new voting block. The Democrats love the flooding of uneducated poor who suck off the public teet so they can push their socialist agenda, and the Republicans turn the cheek because it keeps corporate profits high, and all their wall street buddies happy.

Then, Mexico and other latin American third world countries lobby for less stringent immigration policies under the guise of "human rights" to aide in money being sent back into their respective economies at the expense of US citizens. Stengthening of latin American relations? The only thing these corrupt governments seek is strengthening of their parasitic relationship and nobody is going to stop it.

Fifty years form now the US will be another third world country because of this invasion.

For anyone who doubted Bush's impending betrayal of the Hispanic vote, rerfer above. This is what I wrote about it ealier:
"
My post would be retarded if it were baseless, and sadly its not. Bush has always relied on the Hispanic vote to roll him through government, while giving very little back to them in return. I've grown up around Mexicans/Hispanics (whatever you prefer) most of my life, in west Texas mind you, and I know that they expect Bush to follow through on what they see as his promise to open up the border and legalize everyone who already made it through. That's not going to happen.

As significant a role the hispanic popultion may come to play in the next decade or two, their time is not now or in the next four years. Bush will be mroe concerned about fulfilling his obligations to his true contsituents, the Repblican base. This agenda does not include the legaliztion of mexican immagrants or the opening of the US/Mexican borded. In fact the agenda is quite the opposite. If you don't believe me, walk up to any WASP you see and ask them their opinion about the Hispanic agenda, you're likely to become pretty disenchanted if you already don't know the answer. They hold legalization of immagrants and recuction of border control with about same regard as thy have for "Teh Gh3Y AJ3nda!"

So, once the Mexican voters are betrayed where do you think their allegience will fall come 2008? Will their kneejerk illogical political morailty outwheigh the pragmatism of aligning yourselves with a party who is truly sympaethitic to your plight? (at least by comparison, if not to any great extent) Guess we'll have to wait and see, but I don't think the answer will take 4 years to arrive. "

And in that thread where this post came from, I would like to applogize to anyone I offended in stating "the Mexicans would come crawling back on their knees." I think we all can agree, most of myself, that I could've put that in a much more palatable manner. I do however stand by the notion, if not in such an inflamitory context.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
You know what?

Those folks work their asses off @ jobs most people think are beneath them, and they have no safety net.

We cannot make this country function without them, why the hell not make them legal or give them some hope. Course if you're willing to go do roadwork in 108 degree Texas heat, I can promise I'll get you a job doing just that next summer.

:thumbsup:

my floors surely aren't going to clean themselves, and if they're legal, they can at least be making minimum wage and contributing taxes.

 

[Vic]

As long as they immigrate legally, I have no problem with them. But anyone hiring an illegal deserves the jail time the law requires IMO. And any illegal caught voting should be tried for espionage.

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
You know what?

Those folks work their asses off @ jobs most people think are beneath them, and they have no safety net.

We cannot make this country function without them, why the hell not make them legal or give them some hope. Course if you're willing to go do roadwork in 108 degree Texas heat, I can promise I'll get you a job doing just that next summer.

If you would have asked this at the start of this last summer I would have said sign me up (along with about 20 other people I know).

I already have a job for this next summer though.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

I love the smell of xenophobia in the morning. It smells like...nationalism.

 

[jpeyton]

I love how the President has strengthened our nations borders. :roll:

I guess illegals are okay as long as they're Hispanic, right?

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Vic
But anyone hiring an illegal deserves the jail time the law requires IMO.

I don't really see the big deal, especially if you can't find an American to do the job.

when my roommate and I were looking for a cleaning lady, we selected a handful of ads from a local paper pretty much at random. no American citizens in the bunch, as far as I could tell.

(note: I don't know 100% that my cleaning lady is illegal, but I suspect it. and for the purposes of this discussion, it's worth mentioning that she's not mexican she's from Russia).

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: loki8481
(note: I don't know 100% that my cleaning lady is illegal, but I suspect it. and for the purposes of this discussion, it's worth mentioning that she's not mexican she's from Russia).

:camera:?

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: loki8481
(note: I don't know 100% that my cleaning lady is illegal, but I suspect it. and for the purposes of this discussion, it's worth mentioning that she's not mexican she's from Russia).

:camera:?

I was thinking the same thing.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: loki8481
(note: I don't know 100% that my cleaning lady is illegal, but I suspect it. and for the purposes of this discussion, it's worth mentioning that she's not mexican she's from Russia).

:camera:?

I was thinking the same thing.

she's not hot at all... but she does a bang-up job cleaning up after 2 bachelors who are too lazy to clean for themselves

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: tnilC
Simply infuriating...

This festering cancer spreading from Mexico into the US is the single most important issue to me facing the US.
Fifty years form now the US will be another third world country because of this invasion.

What are you blabbering about? This was the plan and going 110% according to schedule.

You didn't get the memo?

The United States of America was renamed to Unestados De Mexico.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

I'm confused. It seems OK in here to hate illegal mexicans. So is it OK to hate gay illegal mexicans, or do they receive a get-out-of-hate-free card?

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I'm confused. It seems OK in here to hate illegal mexicans. So is it OK to hate gay illegal mexicans, or do they receive a get-out-of-hate-free card?

Don't be hatin'

Since they're illegal, evidently it's cool to ignore their basic rights as human beings.

Actually, it's really starting to shock me what social progressives think...

Wondering how it was so easy for the Nazi/Brownshirt comparisons with conservatives @ first, I'm beginning to suspect an agenda.

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I'm confused. It seems OK in here to hate illegal mexicans. So is it OK to hate gay illegal mexicans, or do they receive a get-out-of-hate-free card?

ROFLOMGASLAPPLECAMEL!

...:disgust:

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I'm confused. It seems OK in here to hate illegal mexicans. So is it OK to hate gay illegal mexicans, or do they receive a get-out-of-hate-free card?

Don't be hatin'

Since they're illegal, evidently it's cool to ignore their basic rights as human beings.

Actually, it's really starting to shock me what social progressives think...

Wondering how it was so easy for the Nazi/Brownshirt comparisons with conservatives @ first, I'm beginning to suspect an agenda.

I agree. Their penchant for selectively applying compassion only when they see fit does come off as a bit duplicitous, doesn't it?

 

[jjzelinski]

I'll be very frank with both of you, I'm upset with the Hispanic popultions of Florida and elsewhere that voted for Bush for the same reason I'm irritated with people like you. I find it blatanly innapropriate for so many people to vote on a purely emotional basis at the expense of actual issues of dire importance to us as a nation. There's nothing racist about me, and there's nothing racist about my aversion to those who voted on teh basis described above whether your a WASP, Hispanic, or a part of any other group. Hate me for what I am if you have to, not for what you want me to be.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: jjzelinski
I'll be very frank with both of you, I'm upset with the Hispanic popultions of Florida and elsewhere that voted for Bush for the same reason I'm irritated with people like you. I find it blatanly innapropriate for so many people to vote on a purely emotional basis at the expense of actual issues of dire importance to us as a nation. There's nothing racist about me, and there's nothing racist about my aversion to those who voted on teh basis described above whether your a WASP, Hispanic, or a part of any other group.

I see.

So, because you have an aversion to their beliefs and actions, you would like to see laws passed that prevent them from legitimizing their status?

Sound familiar?

Hate me for what I am if you have to, not for what you want me to be.

I don't hate anybody for what they are. Can you claim the same?

 

[Steeplerot]

100 years ago................

This festering cancer spreading from Italy and Ireland into the US is the single most important issue to me facing the US. Three million illegal immigrants flood this nation every year, taking jobs from LEGAL citizens because they will work for dirt. Dont even say they do jobs others wont, because there is no job people wont do for adequate pay. Prices are not kept low because of this illegal labor, but it does keep greedy buisness owners profits high.

They do not integrate, they do not pay taxes, they leach off of public funding via welfare, healthcare, and education, and not a peep from either party because they see a wonderful new voting block. The Democrats love the flooding of uneducated poor who suck off the public teet so they can push their socialist agenda, and the Republicans turn the cheek because it keeps corporate profits high, and all their wall street buddies happy.

Then, Italy and Ireland and other European countries lobby for less stringent immigration policies under the guise of "human rights" to aide in money being sent back into their respective economies at the expense of US citizens. Stengthening of European relations? The only thing these corrupt governments seek is strengthening of their parasitic relationship and nobody is going to stop it.

Fifty years form now the US will be another <insert xenophobic analogy here pertaining to your own great-granparents>
Edit Fixed xenophobic sounds more accurate in hindsight

 

[tnilC]

HAHAHAHA!!!!! They do the work others wont!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! How ignorant some of you people are!

There is no such thing as a job people wont do for adequate pay. Service jobs, farming, cooking, cleaning, landscaping etc need to pay enough for LEGAL American workers, plain and simple.

Xenophobia. Please. Claiming racism is the last bastion of a coward you ignors the facts.

 

[klah]

Originally posted by: steeplerot
100 years ago................

This festering cancer spreading from Italy and Ireland into the US is the single most important issue to me facing the US. Three million illegal immigrants flood this nation every year, taking jobs from LEGAL citizens because they will work for dirt.

They came here legally, mostly through Ellis Island and other ports in Boston, Savannah, etc.

They were not just being dumped chaotically onto the shores of the east coast.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: tnilC
Xenophobia. Please. Claiming racism is the last bastion of a coward you ignors the facts.

Xenophobia is not racism. It's an irrational fear or contempt of foreigners. I believe the "contempt" part of the definition applies directly to comments made in this thread.