Mexico on the verge of becoming failed state

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  1. kylebisme

    kylebisme Diamond Member

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    The obvious solution is to end the war on drugs.
     
  2. BoberFett

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    Or the other way around would be OK too.
     
  3. Red Dawn

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    Yeah fur sure you betcha:roll::laugh:
     
  4. m1ldslide1

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    What a trip that would be... I have no idea what the breakdown is of various types of drugs being smuggled north into the US, but even if MJ was taken out of the equation I would imagine that would be a devastating blow to some of these cartels. That has to be one of their top 2 or 3 cash cows.
     
  5. wwswimming

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    this is one of the primary facets of the story.

    one of the primary $$ sources for the Mexican government is an oil
    field named Cantarell. the geo statistic in 2006 was that it had a
    floor to ceiling dimension of 825 feet and that the water level was
    rising at a level of about 300 feet a year. in any case, the annual
    drop in production from Cantarell is in double digits, comparing
    2005, 6, & 7.

    i was just in Tijuana, gas is partially subsidized by the government
    and sells for $3 a gallon. i went to a shopping mall, it's a lot like
    an American shopping mall.

    i have a feeling that as the government oil revenues fall, and the
    price of gasoline goes up, it's going to be more & more like the Wild
    Wild West.
     
  6. Sinsear

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    :laugh:
     
  7. WhipperSnapper

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    Take over Mexico...temporarily solve our oil problems...it's an interesting idea. But, is the cost of cleaning up all of the crime and corruption worth it? How many states could Mexico be divided into?
     
  8. hellokeith

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    Nuke'em from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
     
  9. SickBeast

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    I have a feeling that under NAFTA, Mexico has to provide oil to the US before they use it themselves. I know that this is how it works for Canada, so I assume the same applies to Mexico.

    It always amuses me when Americans complain about NAFTA.
     
  10. DrPizza

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    Mexico already is divided into states, just like the U.S.
     
  11. Vic

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    He hates Muslims too. And proposes forced sterilizations as the solution to the "Africa problem." IOW, he's a real piece of work.

    Then where would the corruption come from? :)
     
  12. WhipperSnapper

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    Yeah, but they seem like big states by U.S. standards.
     
  13. Capitalizt

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    I always wondered why Mexico is so ass backwards and hasn't been able to get their sh!t together over the past century...then I decided to learn Spanish and all was explained. The language is so ugly and imprecise, it's a wonder they can do anything technical. I literally gagged at how stupid the syntax in their sentences is...They don't have any negative conjunctions like don't or won't.. Thoughts don't flow smoothly at all and most of the time you won't know the meaning of a sentence until it ends. Instead of "Don't come over here.", it's "Come over here, no. "

    I swear it's like caveman language...
     
  14. babylon5

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    Mexico has made little advancement, while other countries, from Russia to Asia to even some Middle East countries, are making big leaps modernized with robust economy.

    -edit spelling-
     
  15. PieIsAwesome

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    The only thing you learned is how to increase your ignorance about a language too elegant for you to understand, troll.
     
  16. dawp

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    probably legalizing drugs here would be the best thing for Mexico. it would take away the cash flow from the cartels and smugglers, we could set up pot farms in mexico, buy coca from farmers in South America, opemium from poppy farmers. tax it like alcohol, and monitor it for impurities and, if nesessary, cut it with inert, safe filler. but that would make too much sense.
     
  17. Socio

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    Yep and Cartels control many of them, they own the police, local government officials, judges etc? and is how they have virtually unrestricted flow of drugs, weapons and human trafficking through them.
     
  18. deathstorm78

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    I'm curious Socio.

    What solution do you propose?
     
  19. Nebor

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    But imagine all of the American law enforcement personel that would be out of a job. Not to mention attorneys, prison guards, bail bondsmen, etc.
     
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    Just in time folks, the U.S. Senate just approved the billion dollar aid package to Mexico to fight dope. Good thing too. I'm sure it will be used effectively. :disgust:
    I'll have to read through it and see if they spell out the kickback provisions, offshore accounts, etc. Are we this stupid to put up with this? I guess so.......
     
  21. Socio

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    I sure would like to see an itemized list of where that money goes, I am betting most of it will end up lining various pockets. I would not be surprised if some of it even ends up right back into our own politicians pockets in one form or another.
     
  22. GeezerMan

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    No doubt the corruption is on both sides. Too bad we can't easily see all of the assets of our elected officials. Join the government as a millionaire and leave as a billionaire.
     
  23. Vic

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    Uhh... buddy, it's not their language that's the caveman language, it's ours. Spanish is a Latin language. English comes for the Germanic barbarian hordes.

    And you must not have been a good Spanish student because the literal translation of "Don't come over here" would be "No you come here" or no venga aqui
     
  24. tweaker2

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    What needs to be changed down there in Mexico begins with what needs to be changed on the other side of their northern border. The USA needs to quit being the welfare nanny of that chronically dysfunctional southern neighbor of hers, because it was never meant to be that way in the first place.

    That being siad, I'd like to know what would the Mexican government do with those millions and millions and ever millions more of their countrymen that find it unavoidable to make a living elsewhere if those millions and millions and ever millions more of of their countrymen got bottled up in their homeland?

    It almost seems as if Mexico would cease to exist as a nation were it not for it's ability to continually produce millions and millions of exported workers that keep sending those billions of $$$ of foreign currency home every year.


     
  25. XZeroII

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    And what do we do about the people who get addicted to the harder drugs? Sure, it's pure and regulated, but that doesn't make it any less addicting. You can't just decide to stop using them.