Mexico blaming American gun makers for crime.

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shortylickens said:

I dont know if they think they are actually going to win and get money, or if this is just for the attention. Cuz these days most law suits seem to be more about making a statement than anything else.

My take: Mexico has a serious drug industry and they would just buy guns from other places if they couldnt get any from America.
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Who does Mexico have a serious drug industry?
 
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shortylickens said:

I dont know if they think they are actually going to win and get money, or if this is just for the attention. Cuz these days most law suits seem to be more about making a statement than anything else.

My take: Mexico has a serious drug industry and they would just buy guns from other places if they couldnt get any from America.
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It's a bit of both. There are multiple countries in Europe that have similar property crime rates as us, but the homicide rates are much lower, because guns make those situations blow up worse than they would otherwise. Geographically, it's just not as easy to smuggle guns in there. There is no country on their border with extremely lax gun laws. I would suspect Mexico would get guns from other places, but nowhere near as many as they can just get from the gun fetishists right to the North.
 
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shortylickens said:

I dont know if they think they are actually going to win and get money, or if this is just for the attention. Cuz these days most law suits seem to be more about making a statement than anything else.

My take: Mexico has a serious drug industry and they would just buy guns from other places if they couldnt get any from America.
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Yup.

They are shithole countries that can't police to begin with. The solution is either they learn to police better - or we cut off business via legalization.
 
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s0me0nesmind1 said:
Yup.

They are shithole countries that can't police to begin with. The solution is either they learn to police better - or we cut off business via legalization.
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Shithole Houston has 3x the rate of murder than NYC. I think we need to cut them off until they learn how to deal with crime better.
 
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This is an angle I've been pushing for decades. Like so many others (and the Ferengi "the justification for profit is profit'), gun companies are all about profit. They don't care about anything else. Profit over all.

So, get them into court and make it too expensive for them. Hit them where they feel it most, in the wallet. Bankrupt them like Remington. Make them choose not to sell to the public.

Maybe Canada will jump on the bandwagon and few other countries that aren't in the pocket of the NRA.
 
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Lost_in_the_HTTP said:
This is an angle I've been pushing for decades. Like so many others (and the Ferengi "the justification for profit is profit'), gun companies are all about profit. They don't care about anything else. Profit over all.

So, get them into court and make it too expensive for them. Hit them where they feel it most, in the wallet. Bankrupt them like Remington. Make them choose not to sell to the public.

Maybe Canada will jump on the bandwagon and few other countries that aren't in the pocket of the NRA.
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They got team of lawyers on staff. I don't think they worry about lawsuit cost.
 
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The lawyers handling the remains of Remington just offered 33 million dollars to settle a case they know would cost them much more if it went to a jury.
 
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Lost_in_the_HTTP said:
This is an angle I've been pushing for decades. Like so many others (and the Ferengi "the justification for profit is profit'), gun companies are all about profit. They don't care about anything else. Profit over all.

So, get them into court and make it too expensive for them. Hit them where they feel it most, in the wallet. Bankrupt them like Remington. Make them choose not to sell to the public.

Maybe Canada will jump on the bandwagon and few other countries that aren't in the pocket of the NRA.
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That's literally every corporation in existence - regardless of what you want to keep telling yourself.

Every company - even woke ones that donate to black lives matter - will gladly shell out a petty million dollar donation. But the moment workers start getting uppity and talk about unionizing is the moment you see the reality.
 
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shortylickens said:
if you are correct then this whole thing really is just political.
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of course it's political. Democrats don't like guns and want to sue makers of legal products out of existence. Just another quid pro quo between the Democrats and foreign governments to advance their agenda. We saw it with the millions China paid to new outlets to censor the coverage of Covid and turning anyone that suggested it was China's fault into a conspiracy nut.
 
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brandonbull said:
of course it's political. Democrats don't like guns and want to sue makers of legal products out of existence. Just another quid pro quo between the Democrats and foreign governments to advance their agenda. We saw it with the millions China paid to new outlets to censor the coverage of Covid and turning anyone that suggested it was China's fault into a conspiracy nut.
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So they are not good with their money. Almost all involved in making those suggestions Were conspiracy nuts or Political Manipulators.
 
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brandonbull said:
of course it's political. Democrats don't like guns and want to sue makers of legal products out of existence. Just another quid pro quo between the Democrats and foreign governments to advance their agenda. We saw it with the millions China paid to new outlets to censor the coverage of Covid and turning anyone that suggested it was China's fault into a conspiracy nut.
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If you don't want to seem like a conspiracy nut then not posting conspiracy nut things would be an excellent start.
 
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s0me0nesmind1 said:
Yup.

They are shithole countries that can't police to begin with. The solution is either they learn to police better - or we cut off business via legalization.
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They can't police because they are corrupted with and overrun by cartels.

The only solution is for Merica to somehow extricate itself from suicidal hard drug addiction.

How does the U.S. expect them to police better when U.S. money is funding the corruption in the first place?
 
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Well there's two things that crossed my mind when I started reading into this thread: One, there's folks over there that wanted to show Trump just how ridiculously asinine he is from claiming they'd pay for His Wall. Secondly, the Mexican politicos needed a convenient scapegoat to sidestep their own inability toward not being corrupted by all that drug money pouring into their country, infusing their economy with $$billions$$ of yankee dineros on an annual basis.

It just makes logical sense that if they have drug lords over there being able to arm themselves to the hilt no problemo impunity and immunity-wise, then they're (Mexican powers that be) either in cahoots with the drug dealers like way up the chain, not able to/not wanting to control their drug dealing problem the way they should or more than likely both.
 
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It's almost as if the War on Drugs was an abject failure that only rewards government departments with funds and bad guys and private prisons with big money. It stops nobody from getting drugs that wants them. If only we knew from experience that Prohibition couldn't work, but nothing like that was ever tried before, so how could we have known?
 
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