Mexican fireworks industry explodes. No regulations good?

[JSt0rm]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/americas/mexico-fireworks-market-explosion/

Hopefully trump can get rid of some of our regulations too.

 

[brycejones]

We need to eliminate job killing regulations and bring back more people killing jobs.

 

[Zorba]

We need to eliminate job killing regulations and bring back more people killing jobs.

Seems like a good way to reduce unemployment by reduce both the top and bottom numbers. /s

 

[JSt0rm]

its the best way forward.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Wow, just wow. Using this to make a political statement is sad. Here I thought the left was supposed to be compassionate for their fellow man.

My condolences to the people who were killed or hurt and their families and friends.

 

[Zorba]

Wow, just wow. Using this to make a political statement is sad. Here I thought the left was supposed to be compassionate for their fellow man.

My condolences to the people who were killed or hurt and their families and friends.

Although the sarcasm may be tasteless, this is a perfect example of why regulations are desirable and why you can't just trust the free market.

 

[Bitek]

We need to eliminate job killing regulations and bring back more people killing jobs.

Works for Texas and China.

Wow, just wow. Using this to make a political statement is sad. Here I thought the left was supposed to be compassionate for their fellow man.

My condolences to the people who were killed or hurt and their families and friends.

Our next president said Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers. Why should we have compassion?
Was this a village of "good" ones?

Ohs wells. Won't be climbing over The Wall so easy missing arms and legs, amirite?

 

[Paratus]

Although the sarcasm may be tasteless, this is a perfect example of why regulations are desirable and why you can't just trust the free market.

Those that want to trust the free market with this stuff simply believe in a utopia that doesn't exist.

They forget that for ideal capitalism to work consumers need to be knowledgeable about the products or services of a company and its competitors. In the real world this doesn't even happen half of the time. Even worse laws and practices have been put in place to hide knowledge about products and services.

They also forget that while the market can punish poor performance if that poor performance results in dead consumers that should be unacceptable.

The free market isn't some unassailable religious belief. It's a tool to improve the society that implements it. If it's implemented poorly it should be improved or discarded.

 

[Zaap]

What the hell are you complaining about? Maybe you can bring all those workers here.

Wow, just wow. Using this to make a political statement is sad. Here I thought the left was supposed to be compassionate for their fellow man.

My condolences to the people who were killed or hurt and their families and friends.

The left has gone full-retard lately. Given the OP, this bullshit thread isn't surprising.

Mexico ranks very low on the list of economic freedom among nations. I guess people missed the fact that people routinely flee Mexico, despite it being a nation of great natural wealth. It's a bone-stupid example to use of a first world free market (it's far from it) as well as trying to exploit this for a cheap political point just being tasteless.

 

[JSt0rm]

What the hell are you complaining about? Maybe you can bring all those workers

The left has gone full-retard lately. Given the OP, this bullshit thread isn't surprising.

Mexico ranks very low on the list of economic freedom among nations. I guess people missed the fact that people routinely flee Mexico, despite it being a nation of great natural wealth. It's a bone-stupid example to use of a first world free market (it's far from it) as well as trying to exploit this for a cheap political point just being tasteless.

its because of their firework regulations.

 

[Zaap]

its because of their firework regulations.

What about them?

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/explosion-rips-fireworks-market-mexico-city-44311361

Portuguez, the Tultepec mayor, said the manufacture and sale of fireworks is a key part of the local economy. He added that it is regulated by law and under the "constant supervision" of the Defense Department, which oversees firearms and explosives.

http://www.businessinsider.com/fireworks-explosion-in-mexico-2016-12

The director of the state government’s pyrotechnics institute, which regulates the fireworks industry, had called the San Pablito Artisanal Pyrotechnics Market one of the safest markets in all of Latin America “with stalls perfectly designed and with sufficient space so that there is not a chain reaction in case of a spark”, news website Animal Político reported.

Disasters are not uncommon in places such as Tultepec, where authorities have tried for decades to control a fireworks industry famed throughout Mexico for producing everything from firecrackers and sparklers to towering structures called “castillos”, which spin and explode and are installed at small-town festivals.

Fireworks are commonly sold over the Christmas holidays, but also prove popular additions to patron saint festivities, when celebrants set off rockets in the pre-dawn hours.

The San Pablito market had suffered explosions previously.

The market ignited on the eve of independence celebrations in September 2005, injuring 128 vendors and customers, according to press reports. Officials at the time blamed customers being given improper permission to ignite explosive items, which set off a chain of explosions.

The market reopened the following year, but with more safety precautions including provisions that all structures must be built of brick and concrete and fireworks had to be kept beneath glass and not touched by customers. Firefighters were also stationed onsite.

The defence secretariat – which sells gunpowder for use in fireworks – also imposed new regulations, including limiting fireworks purchase to 10kg per person.

They have regulations, and bloated, fatcat government agencies behaving just the way leftists love their fat and inefficient governments to be. it's just that Mexico is a corrupt third world country, and corrupt third world shit happens there. Not to worry though, your ilk is doing its level best to import al the same things here, so again, not sure what you're complaining about.

 

[theeedude]

Wow, just wow. Using this to make a political statement is sad. Here I thought the left was supposed to be compassionate for their fellow man.
My condolences to the people who were killed or hurt and their families and friends.

It's never the right time for conservatives to learn lessons.

 

[JSt0rm]

it's just that Mexico is a corrupt third world country, and corrupt third world shit happens there.

We will get there soon enough.

 

[Zaap]

We will get there soon enough.

Hey, if you disagree with a law (like an immigration or labor law) just ignore it right? You're right, we'll get there soon enough.

 

[JSt0rm]

Hey, if you disagree with a law (like an immigration or labor law) just ignore it right? You're right, we'll get there soon enough.

What about a anti-gun law? Should we ignore those too?

 

[Zaap]

What about a anti-gun law? Should we ignore those too?

If it suits to ignore one set of laws just because you don't like them, why not ANY laws?

Sure. What's actually stopping people from forming 'sanctuary cities' from gun laws they don't like? Your ilk set the precedent.

 

[pcgeek11]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/americas/mexico-fireworks-market-explosion/

Hopefully trump can get rid of some of our regulations too.

No where in that report did it say the explosion was due to a lack of regulation(s). They have no idea what caused the explosion as far as I have seen.

 

[Genx87]

Did the OP even read his\her own article? A good portion of the article is about how new regulations were put in place to make this the safest market in Latin america after a series of fires in 2005-06

Fail by the OP.

 

[fskimospy]

Wow, just wow. Using this to make a political statement is sad. Here I thought the left was supposed to be compassionate for their fellow man.

My condolences to the people who were killed or hurt and their families and friends.

This line of reasoning is always so, so terrible. It's the same thing that happens after every mass shooting where conservatives say that it's so terribly inappropriate to point to the consequences of lax gun regulations as a reason to have stricter gun regulations. It's not sad to make a political statement with those sorts of things, it's exactly what should be done to honor the victims so that there are hopefully fewer in the future.

Not saying that this explosion had to do with lack of regulations, but if we never heard this line of argument again that would be too soon.

 

[momeNt]

This line of reasoning is always so, so terrible. It's the same thing that happens after every mass shooting where conservatives say that it's so terribly inappropriate to point to the consequences of lax gun regulations as a reason to have stricter gun regulations. It's not sad to make a political statement with those sorts of things, it's exactly what should be done to honor the victims so that there are hopefully fewer in the future.

Not saying that this explosion had to do with lack of regulations, but if we never heard this line of argument again that would be too soon.

Let's DO SOMETHING, so we can HOPE it doesn't happen again. Sounds smart when you put it that way.

 

[glenn1]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/americas/mexico-fireworks-market-explosion/

Hopefully trump can get rid of some of our regulations too.

Yes, if only Mexicans had installed a huge amount of regulation like Denmark or Canada or United Kingdom or even America, fvck yeah such a tragic fireworks factory accident would have been completely avoided. All we need is more regulation, surely then we'll all be safe and no one will ever die of anything ever again.

 

[brycejones]

Yes, if only Mexicans had installed a huge amount of regulation like Denmark or Canada or United Kingdom or even America, fvck yeah such a tragic fireworks factory accident would have been completely avoided. All we need is more regulation, surely then we'll all be safe and no one will ever die of anything ever again.

You should be happy, poor people were blowed up. Or do you only want the poor in cities to die?

 

[sandorski]

Yes, if only Mexicans had installed a huge amount of regulation like Denmark or Canada or United Kingdom or even America, fvck yeah such a tragic fireworks factory accident would have been completely avoided. All we need is more regulation, surely then we'll all be safe and no one will ever die of anything ever again.

All those incidents added together are but a fraction of the deaths of this one in Mexico.

 

[JSt0rm]

and this was like a open air fireworks market. lol.

 

[glenn1]

You should be happy, poor people were blowed up. Or do you only want the poor in cities to die?

No one wants anyone to die. But the sheer sophistry of linking an industrial accident in an inherently dangerous product to OPs perceived lack of the level of regulation the OP desires is stupid. As I pointed out fireworks factory explosions have occurred periodically in lots of different places with widely different regulatory regimes. He offers no evidence that lack of regulation was a factor in this explosion or or would be a factor in preventing any other accidents. Hell, for all we know the regulations in place might have been counterproductive in avoiding an accident.